Can this be considered trading?

[anon]

Let's say I'm looking for an invite to tracker X, so I dive in another site's invite thread/area in hopes of finding one, and happen to spot a recent post along the lines of:

Have two tracker X invites to give away, PM me with mail if you want one

On a sidenote, if someone could invite me to Y, I'd be very grateful

That obviously makes me PM him my address to get an invitation, and I complete the registration process shortly afterwards.

However, in this hypothetical case, I do have an account at Y, and I login to it after seeing it mentioned in RandomUser's post, either to avoid inactivity pruning or "just because" - only to find I have an invite. And I think "RandomUser's is looking for Y, and he invited me to X, so it'd be nice to do the same for him in return".

The question here is, that as the title reads, can that be considered trading? On one side it wasn't a "give me this and I'll give you that" exchange, and I'm free not to invite him to Y if I don't want to. But on the other, I probably would have never invited him to Y if he hadn't helped me with X.

So... your thoughts?

[Extraterrestrial]

Giving away your accounts is illicit but an invitation shouldn't be considered trading

[anon]

Yup, we're talking about both giving invites here.

[hellman]

well i can't consider it trading.,..his sidenote represents that he requested tracker y while he's giving tracker x without any hesitation and conditions..

so if u give him tracker y it simply means u're being generous to guy and try to help him

[crystal]

Not trading in my opinion . he did not specifically ask the same user for an invite to Y tracker . also the user who received the invite and has invite to the Y tracker should be kind enough to actually help him getting into the Y tracker .

But of course , this also borders into thinking whether the person is actually genuine in helping others and needs a little help in getting into Y tracker or he's using the "you scratch my back , i scratch yours" technique and not affiliating himself from the word "trader" and getting his invites in this way .

[Extraterrestrial]

Yup, we're talking about both giving invites here.

mmmm , If he gave you an invitation to tracker x without you mentioning that you will be inviting him to tracker y, it's not trading. In fact, it's nice to help the guy who gave you an invitation for nothing.

But if you mention that you will be giving him an invitation to the tracker he needed in the PM, i think it should be considered trading as your chances of getting the invitation you need will rise dramatically.

[dreamer]

also don't think it's trading.
it was one user being nice to another, and in total "accident" the other user had the option to be nice to the user that was nice to him!

bottom line: be nice!

[hearthrob]

Let us first qualify the "trading"-in-question here meant invite-trading, and not account-trading.

I think the premise of whether this chain of activities fall under "trading" term is the timing. If these series of events all happened consecutively, then it can be considered as trading. But if let's say between the time when you got the X invite to the time when you decide to give RandomUser the Y invite is a few days apart, then I would say it is two seperate acts of invite giveaway. Make sense?

[hellman]

anon how about making a public poll ..its not too late

[anon]

anon how about making a public poll

Done.

Thanks for the feedback so far.

[hearthrob]

But of course , this also borders into thinking whether the person is actually genuine in helping others and needs a little help in getting into Y tracker or he's using the "you scratch my back , i scratch yours" technique and not affiliating himself from the word "trader" and getting his invites in this way .

On second thought, since RandomUser does not know if the other person has Y invite or not. So by him giving out the X invite freely to the other person will more than justify this as a case of invite giveaway.

[jacksbi]

in my opinion it is not trading he had invited you without asking for an invite.

somany people say in their sig i need ftn if you can help me i will be glad like that.

it is not trading anyway.

[Blocker]

I think is not trading

'cause at first time you did not mention to him/her you have an invite (obiously you didn't know it)?

RandomUser and you didn't ask for something in return for giving away the invites


-> Just mutual invitations

[anonftw]

I don't think it is trading at all. If s/he gives it freely, then it can't be.

However, the user could be using the invite as bait to look for other users with an invite to tracker Y for his own gain.

[tokiodrift1]

There are different kinds of trading...

Simply giving an Acc away, without getting anything, could be also called trading.

Getting an Acc for an Acc, is also called trading.

In general People are using the word 'trading' (associated with torrent-stuff) in a bad way.
Furthermore people assume that such kind of 'deal' is a bad habit, because everywhere you are able to see the unsympathetic position, when it has something to do with trading-purposes.

Anyway, als always this is just a 'Point of View'-Thing, for Person X it could be look like a bad act, because of the general position of such an act. In the same time it could be a good thing for Person B which was looking desperately for an Invite.
Same for Person C who feels good by giving away an unnecessary Invite in exchange for another.

So overall, I may emphasize again that the word trading has just a bad reputation in the torrent/filesharing-communities, and that its not important to know if a deal should be called trading or not, instead it is important to know that it is not bad if you're trading anything.

~td1