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    Hello everyone...anon

    Hehe it's been awhile, you sure thougt i left for good eh ... And sure enough , i got a pm regarding my absent hehe.. But you couldnt be further from the truth

    Now, me & myself like the idea to tighten some privacy settings especially in the p2p world.

    So anon..ymity i have setup and are using US1008 through vuze, but i still have a couple questions like:

    1. Is there a easy way to check if the proxy adress iam using infact also will be seen as such by other user/peers/trackers ?
    I know of the ip checking sites like jondo etc... but is that number you see there the only thing others (peers/trackers/users) will see ?
    Is it possible to double check the proxy ip through vuze or cmd ?

    2. Also, it seems when i close/exit Us vuze still up/dl at full speed ! That makes me question the functionality of us!? Is it realy doing wot it is suppose to do = anonymize app's?


    Anon as usuall thanks &


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    1. Is there a easy way to check if the proxy adress iam using infact also will be seen as such by other user/peers/trackers ?
    Have you tried this? Check VPN & Proxy Torrent Ip Address Bittorrent Service
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    1. Is there a easy way to check if the proxy adress iam using infact also will be seen as such by other user/peers/trackers ?
    Check VPN & Proxy Torrent Ip Address Bittorrent Service

    2. Also, it seems when i close/exit Us vuze still up/dl at full speed !
    Oh, that's because you didn't read the FAQ at the end of the first post.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom View Post
    Now i have thank you :)... But err... i have done some read work and uhm.. i followed the instructions to the letter i.e generated torrent and all that but despite the many refreshments and it still doesnt detect my torrent !?

    Does that mean that woud b even better ?


    Now based upon wot i have read.. i have disabled some UpnP/nat/DHT features through both my vuze client and router using telnet !
    Vuze now complains about beeing firewalled yet... i have nearly my full upload speed while using proxy none theless...


    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Oh, that's because you didn't read the FAQ at the end of the first post.
    I dont get it anon .. sorry ! I have read the faq but... i havent read anything related to my faq regarding the full speed !

    I guess, once connected using proxy it doesnt matter wot happends to the app US as long the torrent its connection doesnt drop/disconnects and reconnect i asume (in light of security/privacy measures i mean)... right?




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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    Now i have thank you :)... But err... i have done some read work and uhm.. i followed the instructions to the letter i.e generated torrent and all that but despite the many refreshments and it still doesnt detect my torrent !?

    Does that mean that woud b even better ?
    It means something's wrong

    Although if your client has managed to hit the CMTI tracker, refreshing the page should show the IP it (and every other tracker) sees.

    I dont get it anon .. sorry ! I have read the faq but... i havent read anything related to my faq regarding the full speed !
    This is the part you're looking for:
    Q: Why is this "semi-anonymous"?
    A: Because your tracker announces will be tunneled through the proxy, but peer communication, and therefore the actual file sharing, won't. If you need to be really anonymous, buy a VPN service or a seedbox.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Well anon, at first the everything owrked alright detection ip worked but...

    Ive read its wise to disable UpNp / udp protocols / DHT .. etc .. so i did that.. and since then it couldnt detect my torrent... Now isnt that a good thing realy, inst that the main goal ?

    In any rate, i thought now it couldnt detect anything i wos on the right track one step closer to anonymize vuze !!

    Now you say, free proxy = semi anonymous = true ip will ONLY stay hidden for tracker announces but not for peers / other downloaders!!

    You actually absolutely sure of that?
    That despite of using Elite proxy + disabling/unticking other potential leaks throug vuze & router other peers/downloaders (anyone that is connected to me through vuze) will and can SEE me just as simple as checking the peerlist in the torrent client to spot me !?!


    THAT EASY , despite of all the efforts ?

    Any other tips / links to fine tune vuze for maximum security yet maintain close as full speed please ?


    As usuall thanks anon .

    Iam glad you are still around
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    Now you say, free proxy = semi anonymous = trü ip will ONLY stay hidden for tracker announces but not for peers / other downloaders!!

    You actually absolutely sure of that?
    it depends on the proxy type. a http proxy will of course only be used for the announce but not for the actual torrenting. socks proxies are different so it depends on the type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    That despite of using Elite proxy + disabling/unticking other potential leaks throug vuze & router other peers/downloaders (anyone that is connected to me through vuze) will and can SEE me just as simple as checking the peerlist in the torrent client to spot me !?!


    If you need security so much, then once again, use a VPN or a seedbox. As long as you leech with your real IP, you can still get caught regardless of if no upload is enabled, you use separate IPs for the tracker, or disable DHT. Not that the "solutions" are flawless either, but they should provide good protection.

    Instab: HTTP proxies can be used to connect to peers if they support the CONNECT method.
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    hmmm... so either way payed or free ... you screwed if they realy want you !!

    Is it still worth all this effort you think iam wondering !?

    Also, does it help "MUCH" when i download or upload torrents to and from torrentsite from behind proxy actually in addition to the already proxyfied vuze ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    Is it still worth all this effort you think iam wondering !?
    That's up to you.

    Also, does it help "MUCH" when i download or upload torrents to and from torrentsite from behind proxy actually in addition to the already proxyfied vuze ?
    If the site's database ever gets seized, I suppose it can help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    If the site's database ever gets seized, I suppose it can help.

    Well yeah ofcourse its eventually up to me... but wot i like to know is your opinion about all this anonymizing theory..

    Lets put it this way, on a scale from 1 to 10 using different methods (smurf & 3rd party apps included), 1 being useless and 10 being a GHOST a shadow from the past... lol wot woud your score be from your point of view ?

    About the site's database note... is it possible to totally anonymize you using Free proxy then , i mean Elite woud be sufficient right?

    And on top of that not forwarding references and beside that blocking cookies (not that cookies woud reveal true ip is it now ?!) through browser using addons and so on ?

    Java scripts on the otherhand woud comprimise all this i asume , hence the use of Noscript !

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    HTTP proxies can be used to connect to peers if they support the CONNECT method.
    interesting, didn't know. so all the traffic would go through the proxy then?
    would make the bt protocol useless to a certain extend

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    hmmm... so either way payed or free ... you screwed if they realy want you !!
    no, a working vpn (paid or not) should do the trick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instab View Post
    no, a working vpn (paid or not) should do the trick

    Interesting indeed...

    Instab, wot do you mean exactly by working vpn?

    Didnt Anon just explained, free proxies are less secure and might still reveal yourself to the outside ?
    Also, despite vpn dont you run the risk of using an transparant or semi anon proxy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    Interesting indeed...

    Instab, wot do you mean exactly by working vpn?
    unreliable vpns tend to die at times and if you don't notice ...

    Didnt Anon just explained, free proxies are less secure and might still reveal yourself to the outside ?
    proxy is proxy. free or not. if working fine your ip is hidden.

    Also, despite vpn dont you run the risk of using an transparant or semi anon proxy ?
    sure, that dösn't hurt. dösn't provide real security either
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabster View Post
    Lets put it this way, on a scale from 1 to 10 using different methods (smurf & 3rd party apps included), 1 being useless and 10 being a GHOST a shadow from the past... lol wot woud your score be from your point of view ?
    Using the method in the first post? Not more than a 6, probably.

    About the site's database note... is it possible to totally anonymize you using Free proxy then , i mean Elite woud be sufficient right?
    Yes, but then you risk getting banned. Trackers don't like proxies.

    And on top of that not forwarding references and beside that blocking cookies (not that cookies woud reveal true ip is it now ?!)
    Blocking cookies won't hide your IP and it will also prevent you from being able to log in.

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    so all the traffic would go through the proxy then?
    would make the bt protocol useless to a certain extend
    Why would it become useless?

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    proxy is proxy. free or not. if working fine your ip is hidden.
    Not all proxies conceal your IP, check it with IP.cc or a ProxyJudge first.
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