Cheating on tvtorrents

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 13:18

greeting to all

I used the waffles method on tvt.com in the folowing manner:
-I set the announced trackers to only 1 tracker.
-I downloaded the torrent and load it to utorrent and ratiomaster
-I started the utorrent to download the torrent and few secs later ran the MemoryReader and saved it.
-then I stopped the utorrent and few secs later startedd the Ratiomaster to
do the trick.

at first 123 down and 0 up speeds
and after 15 mins I stopped it and added 765 up speed and changed a little down speed also.
but the ratiomaster didn't show number of seeders/leechers as it should have like always.so I enabled the scrape tracker feature.

any how the problem is that my overall cradits change but when I look at the peer list in tvt.com I have zero traffic (up and down) no matter how many times I try this.

by the way the swarm speed was around 67000 kb/s

now I wanted to know if i'm doing this right.and is it normal that the trafic in peer list is zero for me while others have normal traffic(non-zero)

The first time I tried to cheat at tvt.com I didn't know it had 3 trackers in it and I UPed 36 GB in 2 days.and I got banned.

any help?

**anon** · 13.02.11, 17:20

Originally Posted by Gluttony

but the ratiomaster didn't show number of seeders/leechers as it should have like always.so I enabled the scrape tracker feature.

Which you shouldn't, for a reason that's been explained at least 100 times already. It's a good idea to keep scraping disabled there and in uTorrent.

by the way the swarm speed was around 67000 kb/s

How can you know the swarm speed? You don't happen to have had the same torrent loaded in RM and Vuze, right?

now I wanted to know if i'm doing this right.and is it normal that the trafic in peer list is zero for me while others have normal traffic(non-zero)

I don't think so.

The first time I tried to cheat at tvt.com I didn't know it had 3 trackers in it and I UPed 36 GB in 2 days.and I got banned.

The RM doesn't have multi-tracker support, so you must pick just one from the list in TvT. There's no real advantage from using more than one announce URL there, anyway.

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:06

anon you left so many of my questions unanswered

How can you know the swarm speed? You don't happen to have had the same torrent loaded in RM and Vuze, right?

the swarm speed is specified in tvt.com torrent info along with peer list.

The RM doesn't have multi-tracker support, so you must pick just one from the list in TvT. There's no real advantage from using more than one announce URL there, anyway.

yes I learned that the hard way by being banned some time ago

you say you don't think i'm doing this right then tell where i'm wrong.
and the questions remain:

1.my RM always show number of seeders/peers but why not this time.(scrape option is always off)
2.why my UP DWN traffic is zero while other users have their traffic shown.
3.should I get on with it despite zero traffic ? whouldn't it be suspicious?

**anon** · 13.02.11, 18:10

Originally Posted by Gluttony

1.my RM always show number of seeders/peers but why not this time.(scrape option is always off)
2.why is my UP DWN traffic is zero while other users have have their traffic shown.
3.should I get on with it despite zero traffic ? whouldn't it be suspicious?

1. because the tracker didn't feel like returning them?

No, seriously. I don't know.
2. Same.
3. yes, it would be suspicious, but chances you'll be banned are very slim... if you do things right, of course.

**mirrormask** · 13.02.11, 18:18

Originally Posted by anon

It's a good idea to keep scraping disabled there and in uTorrent.

just one thing makes me feel a bit uneasy:
why would a legitimate user disable scraping in utorrent?

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:19

damn I really need to make some credit :(

by the way is there any defference between trackers in tvt.com I mean there are 7-8 of them you can choose

**anon** · 13.02.11, 18:20

Originally Posted by mirrormask

just one thing makes me feel a bit uneasy:
why would a legitimate user disable scraping in utorrent?

Because he deems it useless or inaccurate.

Originally Posted by Gluttony

damn I really need to make some credit :(

Thought so.

by the way is there any defference between trackers in tvt.com I mean there are 7-8 of them you can choose

The differences are all explained on the site itself.

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:35

The differences are all explained on the site itself.

I meant the difference for the sake of cheating

**anon** · 13.02.11, 18:35

None.

Unless you're using an extremely old tool that doesn't support HTTPS trackers, but that's not the case, so yes... none.

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:51

what is the max safe UP speed to use in torrent that has a 64Mb/s swarm speed?

**anon** · 13.02.11, 18:51

Oh, for safe speeds you'll have to read the rest of this thread.

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:55

ok but is not dependent on swarm speed?

**anon** · 13.02.11, 18:56

In torrents with more traffic you can go higher.

**Gluttony** · 13.02.11, 18:58

In torrents with more traffic you can go higher.

yes but how much in a 60+MB/s swarm

I forget to tell something i was using a VPN.

u think it can be the reason for tracker not returning peer number or my zero traffic?

**anon** · 13.02.11, 19:00

Originally Posted by Gluttony

yes but how much in a 60+MB/s swarm

Just read this thread, there isn't a magic formula or speed, and not everything is written on stone. You'll find a speed you'll do well with and use that. Thanks.

I forget to tell something i was using a VPN.

u think it can be the reason for tracker not returning peer number or my zero traffic?

No.