Captain America: The Winter Soldier

[yoco]

Release Date: April 4, 2014 (3D/2D theaters)
Studio: Walt Disney Pictures, Marvel Studios
Director: Anthony Russo, Joe Russo
Screenwriter: Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely
Starring: Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Samuel L. Jackson, Robert Redford, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Mackie, Cobie Smulders, Frank Grillo, Georges St-Pierre, Hayley Atwell, Toby Jones, Emily VanCamp, Maximiliano Hernández
Genre: Action, Adventure

“Captain America: The Winter Soldier” will pick-up where “Marvel’s The Avengers” left off, as Steve Rogers struggles to embrace his role in the modern world and teams up with Natasha Romanoff, aka Black Widow, to battle a powerful yet shadowy enemy in present-day Washington, D.C.

[yeewhat]

of the marvel avenger superheroes, cap has the least interesting personality. he's basically perfect: a guy who is 100% patriotic, altruistic, compassionate, a steady leader, a great guy. no noticeable character flaws at all. maybe they'll show some character flaws in winter soldier, but there were none in the first movie. so i'm really just looking forward to
how he adapts to the modern day, and his relationship with the black widow.

[yoco]

[yoco]

Watched it today. It was a good action movie. Not sure why it has so high rating on imdb.

[Dragoon]

8.1 !!! The movie is very good for its marvel type.

[hellman]

Simply loved the movie.. awesome

[Sazzy]

God, this man is beautiful ~.~
First movie was better, 8.1 is overrated, but I still quite liked it!

Also liked the teaser at the end, showing a third movie is coming!

[yoco]

God, this man is beautiful ~.~
First movie was better, 8.1 is overrated, but I still quite liked it!

Also liked the teaser at the end, showing a third movie is coming!

Doesn't the end lean more to Avengers 2?

[Sazzy]

Doesn't the end lean more to Avengers 2?

nah, it actually says the title of the third movie

[pororo]

awesome action movie

[hellman]

Doesn't the end lean more to Avengers 2?

3rd part dude.. u saw those 2 tweaked freaks in the end made to kill cap.

[yoco]

3rd part dude.. u saw those 2 tweaked freaks in the end made to kill cap.

But won't they be in Avengers 2? I'm pretty sure there was talk about "superhero" twins in next Avengers movie.

[alpacino]

Also liked the teaser at the end, showing a third movie is coming!

Seems to be a new trend in all past and recent marvel movies.

[Sazzy]

But won't they be in Avengers 2? I'm pretty sure there was talk about "superhero" twins in next Avengers movie.

they might overlap a bit, they have before. it's one of those things i really like about these movies

[slikrapid]

It was a good action movie.

i'd call it watchable or average, however the script/plot was almost braindead (around that nick fury's 1bpm)

God, this man is beautiful ~.~

was funny how at times it seemed his metro lipstick & makeup was more noticeable than johansson's, his muscles got more screen-time than any of her 'assets', plus there was something about a certain m. gay(e), wasn't it? naughty scriptwriters?

First movie was better

first movie had a pretty boring retro/cartoonish theme, this one uses more steroids (loudness/action/cgi) and ends up close to the video game/cartoonish category

u saw those 2 tweaked freaks in the end made to kill cap.

let me tweak that a bit: 2 tweaked freaks getting trained/prepared to kill the main tweaked cpt. freak, since that other tweaked winter freak failed


*spoilers ahead*
other than that there were plenty silly/lame elements in just about every scene/chapter:

- cpt. A goes to the museum to listen to the official propaganda presentation(s) on himself and his team in order to reaffirm his mission resolve, ie. commits self-brainwashing with governmental material!
- the ultra brave cpt A. doesn't dare entering his own apartment through the front door in fear of... the supersoldier with the 'loud stereo fetish'?
- extremely lame video-game-like flying falcon scenes, falcon - the new robin? a black side-kick to his white idol
- old bunker scene was ridiculous: the missile explosion arriving from an elevator shaft over their heads magically beams them up 10+ floors higher! (also, falcon jumps through a window and falls ~10 floors down into a chopper without any injury whatsoever)
- weak bonding/filler scenes: too soft beds, misses rocks for pillows! grandpa fury as a tough elevator operator! AA-like meetings, peggy scene
- preemptive strikes based on prediction of behavior as future methodology, how to use a 9/11-like event to push harsher laws explained, fake realist vs idealist theme (both want 'shield', just set-up in a different way, one generation used nukes, the next one picks something else)
- the ultra inefficient and slow winter-soldier: regarding nick fury (several times, the camera guy delayed him further with every following camera angle!), regarding romanoff (bikini story & bridge scene), all 3 'targets' on the bridge scene,...
- millions of people considered as a threat to hydra, the plan is to eliminate them en-masse using high-power rifles, supposedly no one would blink if they started decimating the population, but somehow they are afraid of a single news crew & the internet!
- cpt. A blaming stuff on others (fails to secure the area in the ship siege, blames romanoff), needs constant help (last moment save by his team, shield members,...), can't get over his lost friends/relatives/past/old times, indecisive, confused, still questioning his goals (at the age of 95!, guess super-learning wasn't part of the package), everybody reminding him & the viewers how he is the savior, successfully uses gandhi tactics against a top brainwashed mercenary supersoldier!
- cpt. A didn't seem much retro at all, maybe only when he used the old/dirty suit and retro is one of his most interesting aspects!
- ears everywhere, but no eyes? not even in a mall, or an armored vehicle, only in an old bunker with ages old technology (which also has face recognition, AI, digital personality uploading and automated missiles but no on-site explosive charges?)
- so a supersoldier has 4 targets in an ordinary car, how to eliminate them? one by one or all at once? by using handgun bullets through the roof? by eliminating the least dangerous one first (was funny though)? by jumping on the roof? must be them electroshocks messing with his head (which was another script-fail: the dude doesn't want to know who he is, he just wants more electrotherapy, because he wants freedom for the people!)
- top hackers use top malls for top secret hacking in under 10min? software tells you where it came from? a no signal zone means there used to be a router there before? a fingerprint reader can tell you in which order to press the buttons, programs use 'yes' instead of 'y'
- ridiculous shield action (shield=boomerang? protects legs & lower torso from literally thousands of bullets too? can cut into thick metal but no human skulls are harmed? protects from fire too, has enough space for 2 persons underneath & 3 persons on top of it?)
- things like: using a tiny laser/shovel to cut through a reinforced car frame/asphalt/soil with no leftovers in 15 seconds or feigning death with 1 smartphone, 3 rounds of high-power rifle shots, 1 lengthy surgery with electroshocks & a 1bpm brain-damaging stunt or failing to show a furiously minced nick fury due to hundreds of bullets bouncing off of his tank-like car interior
- mentioning other avengers didn't really bring anything except more silliness (shoot the hulk? stark uses lie detectors when recruiting?)
- too shaky camera, too many sped-up movements, too much cgi in just about everything
- some lame fighting choreography (the elevator fight/escape/landing, mma fighting from retro captain?)
- some embarrassingly low quality cgi (the introductory ship siege camera fly-by, the nick fury chase scene)
- even at his age and in a weird miscast role redford performs better acting than anyone else in the movie
...
- maybe the movie ($170 mil.) should have been called winter soldier incompetence instead, though compared to the new spiderman ($200 mil.), even this 1bpm level here looks mighty amazing

also:
- ridiculing cpt. A continues: used to fight for what he thought was right (idealist), became a 'realist' (via mainstream propaganda), now fights for the image people have of him (savior), his life a zero sum sacrifice! (someone was watching the zero theorem?) ie. worthless
- cpt. A represents a perfect(ed) employee/soldier of uncle sam (100% patriotic, half man half machine,...) and if cpt. A 'wants you' to help him, it means you're actually helping uncle sam, cpt. A also represents promoting usa interests, he is a personification of usa, shield is NSA, world council is UN/NATO/.../globalism - he is willing to pay a high price (but he can afford it, being a supersoldier with nothing better to do with his life lol)