cheating on sinderella

**The Shutter** · 19.08.11, 18:26

anyone tried to cheat there ?
i'm sure i've cheated there but i don't remember the info ... i'm cheating to get promoted there to get invite

**The Shutter** · 12.09.11, 09:55

MR + WM @ pack torrents @ <2mb/s works fine.

**flowerorange** · 12.09.11, 19:53

Did you jump to seed ?

**The Shutter** · 13.09.11, 01:38

jump as a seeder is risky , since there's stuff not available on other sites or stuff available on other trackers but packed or unpacked ...etc , you have to check before you do it.

**Sgroppino** · 16.01.12, 19:16

Did anyone try to use Ratio Tool with VEM? Using both fake download and fake upload?

**Großmutter** · 16.01.12, 20:23

Have flash 300 gb with ratiomaster emu rtorrent ,stop before update!

**flowerorange** · 18.01.12, 14:23

Is is true that a gazelle based tracker wouldn't have script to detect cheating in the first place unless they put their own code in it ?
We known that What.CD is one of the most toughest tracker to cheat on ,in the other hand, btn and sinderella are both easy cheating trackers.

**anon** · 18.01.12, 17:45

Originally Posted by flowerorange

Is is true that a gazelle based tracker wouldn't have script to detect cheating in the first place unless they put their own code in it ?

There is basic anti-cheating code in Gazelle, but that's disabled by default. So the answer is essentially "yes".

**flowerorange** · 18.01.12, 19:29

Originally Posted by anon

There is basic anti-cheating code in Gazelle, but that's disabled by default. So the answer is essentially "yes".

I have downloaded the Gazelle code from here, but I can't find out anything about anti-cheating script..Maybe its not a complete version.
Anyway, what exactly is the basic anti-cheating script on Gazelle ,Anon..

**anon** · 18.01.12, 19:29

http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...threadid=14576

**houseonfire** · 04.06.12, 08:42

Originally Posted by Großmutter

Have flash 300 gb with ratiomaster emu rtorrent ,stop before update!

I have read this many times on these forums but never really understood this. What does 'stop before update' mean?
I used to think update is same as client/mod announcing the upload/download amount to the tracker. Do I have to stop the torrent before the actual update time that is do a manual update? Or do I have to stop the client from updating at all? If I stop it from updating, it won't send anything to tracker and no upload will be added, then how is this useful. I think it has something to do with no appearing on the peerlist with a huge upload amount but no update = no upload announcement, so what is the purpose of this? I have looked in many thread but can't understand this. Please help me

I found this in the gazelle analysis topic (http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...threadid=14576)

Every day and every hour, a script dump your ratio history to database.
This is what the script log :
- UserID
- Uploaded
- Downloaded
- UpChange
- DownChange
- Time
The log is stored separately, so at day 20 a staff can still see how much you upload / download at day 5.

So, if someone flashes, then does it log that a huge amount is uploaded in small time interval? Then why does flash work on sinderella?
If anyone knows please reply. Just a slight explanation on what 'stop before update' means will help me a lot.

**flowerorange** · 04.06.12, 12:52

but never really understood this. What does 'stop before update' mean?

If you let the client update automatically, the upload speed and upload amount would be shown in the peerlist. So you may get caught if someone saw this abnormal speed.
When you stop the torrent, the client would update the amount and tell the tracker that the torrent is stopped. So your username would be removed from the peerlist.
"stop before update" is a good method to make sure the cheating unseen on the peerlist.

Anyway, some trackers also have script to check every announcement sent from the client in order to catch the cheaters.
Even if the upload state cannot be seen on pearlist, the crazy speed announcements would be detected by script and reported to the staff..
Some lazy staffs dont have to watch the peerlist all the time, they have script to help them catch cheaters.

**houseonfire** · 04.06.12, 14:31

oh, thank you very much. I used to think tracker takes me off from the peerlist only when my client doesn't send any more announcements and some timeout is caused. I didn't realise it happens even when someone stops the torrent.
This also helped me to understand the waffles method

**anon** · 04.06.12, 15:04

Originally Posted by houseonfire

Please help me

If anyone knows please reply.

Don't worry, they usually do even if you don't write this

**houseonfire** · 06.06.12, 14:47

Stoping before update doesn't seem to work. When I start the download it shows me in peerlist with 0kb up and 0kb down. This gets updated the next time my client does an announce. If I stop the torrent before that, it shows me in peerlist as 'Active : No' and 'Connectable: Yes (because I have other torrents seeding)'. And it takes a long time for my username to get off the peerlist after stopping the torrent. So, how am I supposed to use the stop before update thing properly?