+1Originally Posted by Instab
on the other hand, just about every president/prime minister qualifies regarding the above quote, yet we don't see many protests of this size, seems citizens of other countries just got used to it (desensitized)
+1Originally Posted by Megaplex
military intervention should be reserved for emergencies only - 1 year of lame politics is definitely not a valid reason, the proper way would be to arrange signing of a petition asking for a 'recall election' (referendum) or wait till the end of his term
- easy to manipulate? this applies globally to any nationOriginally Posted by cheatos
- depending on the implementation & those that use it, democracy can range from pretty good to pretty awful, generally & globally it tends to be (much) closer to the latter
- that zionist's comment translated means: 'they haven't been sufficiently tamed yet', notice that he is ridiculing democracy & arabs all in one sentence
- the international communities have their own interests in this, however these are far from being benign or well-meant regarding the average egyptian citizens
- other than that, methinks the above quote might have been just a rant, in the heat of the discussion
maybe he was going to do grand things after becoming a pharaoh?Originally Posted by Tattah
regarding the economy, seems it was an inherited problem (at least a few years back) and the IMF was involved in making things harder for him (extortion, foreign influence, getting set-up to fail), plus there was much local criminal activity in the transitional period, not to mention it is rather suspicious when prices suddenly go crazy (smells of foreign or domestic foul play, intentional negligence) - however, its not really an excuse, ie. he had to try harderOriginally Posted by Instab
so in other words, a utopia?Originally Posted by Instab
every government honors democracy as much as it suits their goals, as long as it can be sufficiently exploited without greater public unrest (ie. their tendency would be to choose the worst democracy implementation possible in this sense) - governments don't care about their citizens, they care about the power of governance, their own position, benefits of that position, voter percentages, political campaigns, demagogy, popularity, PR image,..., the continuous increase and sophistication of the aforementioned - to them, the citizens are mostly a nuisance (voting hassle), mere numbers, tools or sheeple in desperate need of a shepherd - also, governments are a mirror of the societies from which they came from, their own unhealthy attitudes, practices and goals reflecting the overall unhealthiness of those societies
source?Originally Posted by supermarrioh
afaik there was no petition, no signing, just massive protests (probably not a spontaneous occurrence) and the military decided to grab the opportunity seizing the leading position by force, ie. execute a coup, pretending to work on behalf of (the will of) the people - only now, after the fact, they are trying to paint this move as something democratic or necessary or justified
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