Cheating on torrentbytes

[Blocker]

Is there any similar tracker?

BitSoup could be a similar tracker IMO

[slikrapid]

Hello everyone.

Recent situations have put the staff team in a very hard position with handling site finances. Problem is not lack of donations, but entirely on handling them. As of current every service provider the site has to pay for only accepts PayPal, Credit/Debit cards or direct bank wiring. Only one provider allows bitcoin.

Unless we can figure out some realistic and possible way to do site finances completely PayPal free, it seems like the story of TorrentBytes will end very soon after January 2013.
We're trying our damnest to keep the story going on, but truthfully the situation does not seem too good at this point.

What comes to already given donations.. We'll start issuing refunds shortly from the latest donor and going on for as long as there are funds, I believe that is the most fair option as of right now.

Sorry.

which might become a problem for many others as well, since most of these depend on a single? service for receiving donations, whereas they (and all the others too) should have come up with a backup plan for this problem ages ago (involving alternative & anonymous donations)

btw, TB would fit somewhere between 'pure scene trackers' & combined ones like 'the soup', probably closer to the former

[yoco]

Yay, they're back! I hope they won't shut down!

[Jordan]

which might become a problem for many others as well, since most of these depend on a single? service for receiving donations, whereas they (and all the others too) should have come up with a backup plan for this problem ages ago (involving alternative & anonymous donations)

Well they seem to be learning now. Some have allowed the usage of bitcoins. Others are fooling PayPal by several methods like running a separate legitimate site for paypal and where people can donate in lieu of the donations they want to give to the torrent site.

[roberto1972]

Latterly PayPal blocked donate option for many torrent site, harm I prefer this method. Bitcoins is safer but I never tried it

[yoco]

And they're down again!

[roberto1972]

work fine for me

[yoco]

Anyone else? Doesn't work for me!

[roberto1972]

I tried on three different IPs and by proxy server

[anon]

Others are fooling PayPal by several methods like running a separate legitimate site for paypal and where people can donate in lieu of the donations they want to give to the torrent site.

I know little about economics, but isn't that money laundering?

[slikrapid]

isn't that money laundering?

i don't think so, wiki says: 'Money laundering is the process of concealing the source of money obtained by illicit means.'

money obtained by illicit means? donating isn't illicit
concealing the source of money? a bank or a money transfer organization doesn't need to know the source (not their job), nor the purpose for that matter

would it make a difference if the site owner paid for the server bills himself (lets say, from his day job income) instead of a joint user/donor effort? not really

the transfer should be possible even if it was labeled 'donation for TB, a filesharing site', but thats another story

more info:

http://torrentfreak.com/paypal-demands-invites-to-private-bittorrent-trackers-130108/

[Jordan]

I know little about economics, but isn't that money laundering?

I don't think they care. The sites are 'illegal' according to MPAA / RIAA and the men in suits anyways.

I am surprised that they depend so much on PayPal. Aren't there any alternative services? Bitcoins are there but most think they are complicated to handle.