BitHQ staff <3?

**anon** · 16.07.10, 01:47

I just saw this on FST:

You cheat? You'll bleed!

There is a never-ending struggle going on between private trackers and people who think to gain something by cheating. Well, let us inform you, cheaters do not gain anything by cheating. In fact, it is so easy to maintain a decent ratio on BitHQ, you shouldn't even have to cheat.

Cheaters will eventually always be caught up with. Sometimes it takes a while, and sometimes they get identified fast. We are aware of certain active cheat-promoting websites (such as a certain German one, located in Luxembourgh), cheatprograms such as RM, PMR, WM and so on.. Don't worry, we know what to look for. The BitHQ staff is always actively searching for those who try to cheat the system, and they get a lot of help from a big share of fair playing users along the way: nobody likes cheaters.

BitHQ recently got some new tools to it's proposal, and will likely add a few more in the near future. And with these we also added this current page, the 'Wall of Shame', where you really do not wish to be seen on as a cheater. We will show usernames, IP addresses, used emails and so on of those who tried to cheat us. If you end up on this page, you will not be seen only to BitHQ members but you will be seen by virtually the whole wide world as people will not have to be a member to see the Wall of Shame. We all know how Google works, try to get yourself removed from that once the page gets indexed

If you don't cheat, you have nothing to worry. Only people from whom we are 100% sure they cheat, we will show these details. If you give back what you took, like you should when torrenting (after all, if nobody shares, there wouldn't be much people interesting in giving either), you have nothing to fear.

If you are a cheater, and think to yourself "Ha! But I use a fake email address, a fake IP address or whatever", then rest assured, every change you make is stored in the system and will end up on our Wall of Shame.

Trust us, you do not wish to be listed here. It's your own choice to try and cheat here..

To the owners of other communities: feel free to use the data below as you see fit, we know for sure you don't like to have these people in your community either

**shadowww** · 16.07.10, 02:55

Yes, very interesting. I just saw that when was about to login @ bithq. They didn't catch anyone yet.

But its quite scarry thought to get caught and exposed with all ip logs, e-mail, nick... Especially for a kind of lazy cheater like myself that doesn't use different nick and mail for every tracker because I was registrated at most trackers already before I even had a clue about cheating. Hmmm.

**crystal** · 16.07.10, 03:10

its baffling that after 3-4 years of launching the site , one on fine day they suddenly decide to take drastic action against ratio cheating .

**SealLion** · 16.07.10, 03:42

Big words.
Scary ideas.
Might not mean a damn thing.
And as for this:

....every change you make is stored in the system and will end up on our Wall of Shame.

Do they telephone your ISP to see what changes you've made??
Do they call up GMail or Ymail, or any of the thousands of other email providers to see where you've gone??

....seems like a lot of work to me.

As for being caught there, ...before I got disabled for inactivity there ( unfortunately, b/c it actually is a very good site for films), I couldn't believe that I jumped 2 user levels in one night.
I don't cheat as often nowadays, though, ...but that was back-in-the-day.
You know what I mean??

As for improving anti cheating scripts, they might be serious. But then on the other hand, the improvements to anti cheat scripts might only be minimal. You can't tell b/c they don't say, of/c.
In essence....just like I make mention of already....
Big Words, Scary ideas. Might not mean much.

**saebrtooth** · 16.07.10, 04:48

Originally Posted by crystal

its baffling that after 3-4 years of launching the site , one on fine day they suddenly decide to take drastic action against ratio cheating .

The straw that brokeback mountain, sorry broke the camels back

One thing for sure is that they are promoting global bans. If you didnt have have a dynamic IP or used a proxy at the time of cheating it fair to say ur on a static one and they can connect the dots then very likely ur banned - globally

**Blocker** · 16.07.10, 05:51

Originally Posted by SealLion

Big Words, Scary ideas. Might not mean much.

Exactly ,I think their improvement would not detect the proxies, cheating tool and mods if they are used wisely
I've never been in BitHQ but like talks in the past ,systems are not perfect ,so there always will be a way to cheat in trackers.

Don't get scared guys about this.

**Instab** · 16.07.10, 06:09

staff always likes to exaggerate on purpose. remember what IPT stated lately?

**Blocker** · 16.07.10, 06:15

What IPT stated?

Instab please post it

**Instab** · 16.07.10, 06:17

no prob

Dear Users

Recently we are seeing more and more instances of 'suspect' information sent to our tracker.
We believe this is dü to an increased usage of modified torrent clients.

These modified clients have been changed with the specific intention of sending false information to trackers in an attempt to inflate the upload amount recorded and increase the users ratio.
Whilst it is possible to use these modified clients without cheating, the fact that you have a modified client means you have the ability to cheat should you so choose.

We have updated our 'Anti Cheater' routines to identify all instances of modifed client useage.

Any user found to be using a modified torrent client will have their account suspended without notice.

We highly recommend if you have any doubt about the authenticity of your torrent client you cease all seeding / leeching until you have verified you are not using a modified client.
Please download an approved version from the links on the IPT Home Page

Once your account is disabled for cheating, we will not enter into discussion about how our routines are wrong, once disabled it is permanent.

Regards
IPT Staff

**SealLion** · 16.07.10, 06:56

IPt :

.....We highly recommend if you have any doubt about the authenticity of your torrent client you cease all seeding / leeching until you have verified you are not using a modified client......

bithq user:

uuuhhhh duuhhh,
I didnt...didn...diddn''ttt knn..nn..nn...nnowww
dat I vas uzing da modddif..fff..fff...ffiieeed cliiennt!!!
Duuuuhhhhh!!!!

**saebrtooth** · 16.07.10, 07:21

exaggeration of tracker abilities is i would say the norm

ie

If I catch u cheating you little b*stard Im gona fking skin your balls and hang them out to dry

yeah right, like they could catch me on my super fast roller blades

Technical-wise, Im not sure if trackers would share their anti-cheat scripts and how much can they improve upon it themselves without producing double positives and causing head aches for genuine members?

But one thing that is a true WMD and that is advertising all info about the banned user making it hard for the cheater. This is the difference between IPT's announcement and BitHq

**anon** · 16.07.10, 18:32

Originally Posted by SealLion

And as for this:

Do they telephone your ISP to see what changes you've made??
Do they call up GMail or Ymail, or any of the thousands of other email providers to see where you've gone??

No, but they can log the IPs and e-mails you use in the database.

As for me, if I ran a tracker and had improved its scripts recently, I wouldn't announce it.