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    what.cd ratio system changed

    What changes ratio system. Basically the more torrents and longer time you seed you're safer. More snatches without seed and you're worse.

    This system does not alter your ratio. It alters the ratio we require you to maintain for you to keep your account on the site. You must keep your ratio above your required ratio at all times. Therefore, you want a high ratio and a low required ratio. Both your ratio and required ratio will change depending on your behavior on the site.

    Uploading makes your ratio go up (good). Downloading makes it go down, which is generally fine so long as your ratio isn't very close to the required ratio. The system was built to reward people who download things (and keep them seeded).
    Seeding makes your required ratio go down (good). Downloading makes it go up. Not seeding something you've downloaded makes it go up dramatically (bad), as the percentage of your snatches which you are still seeding is directly factored into your requiredratio.

    Therefore, seeding and uploading are good for keeping your ratio above your required ratio. Not seeding things you've downloaded is very bad for keeping your ratio above your required ratio. Downloading is also bad for it, and if your ratio and required ratio are getting dangerously close together, you should stop downloading and concentrate on seeding your snatches instead.
    WhatMan:
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    let SE = number of torrents seeded
    let HS = number of hours seeded (SE*HS = SeedHours)
    let GE = good enough
    let SN = number of torrents snatched
    
    Formula:
    (SE*HS)/GE    SE*HS
    ---------- = ------
    SN            SN*GE
    Last edited by grebetu; 06.01.10 at 16:49.
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    that's been announce a while ago iirc
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    Just saw it right now.Looks like i have to have a ratio of 0,... Mine is 1,.. so no wories there

    They could have just implemented a seedtime bonus system but hey, this is what.cd.If it's not complicated then it's not what.cd material.
    Last edited by Mihai; 06.01.10 at 17:02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihai91 View Post
    They could have just implemented a seedtime bonus system but hey, this is what.cd.If it's not complicated then it's not what.cd material.
    I really like what.cf staff creativity, it pushes all torrent world forward. I have yet to ponder on ratio formula and it's advantages and disadvantages :)
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    I wonder if this really help users maintain their ratio better.
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    Doesn't help at all.But help users not to get banned for low ratio
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    yes basically up to 60GB total download you can have 50%-100% less ratio requirements if you seed everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihai91 View Post
    not to get banned for low ratio
    That's what I was trying to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instab View Post
    that's been announce a while ago iirc
    Announced, but not implemented.
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    It's a healthy change in my opinion for What, lets many people with similarly bad upload speeds to survive easier.
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    If I've understood it correctly, it's going to be a double edged sword.

    On the one hand, they're promoting torrent retention. Which is good for everyone. On the other hand, your required ratio is in a state of near-constant flux, which could be tricky to keep in check. It also doesn't address the issue of seedboxes, which seem to plague that tracker in particular. In fact it seems like it would benefit seedbox owners the most, which is unfortunate.
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    The problem with the new required ratio, is that you have to seed forever those snatched torrents in order to keep it low. In my opinion a seedtime bonus like system helps much more than this.
    it's hip to be square
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