What is the speed that can't be detected by anti-cheat scripts

[anon]

We all wished it was so easy - if everyone knew how all trackers' scripts work...

But if you want to know how their code looks like, here's a sample:
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...?threadid=2300

[arnold]

Thank you for the sample and i will dig out more about this isusee and anyone wants to help is welcome

[cheatos]

Is there kind of a post or documents made describing how anti-cheat scripts work?? and if it exists is it accessiable for public?

you may also look at some of What.cd (or any Gazelle based tracker) anti-flashing script:

http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...163#post115686

their real scripts are of course hidden ...

[arnold]

Thank Cheatos and i am thinking about the following

Ways to detect cheating:

1) Proxy from different countries


2) Most people will cheat when there is much peers?? So why don't trackers
detect incredible high upload speed
Regardless of number of peers peers


3) Uploading with nearly equal download speed


4) The amount that you uploaded Vs the amount of other people downloaded
thus if u have very high upload and the amount people downloaded for specific
torrent @ speicific time isn't even nearly equal and u exceed too much then ur a cheater

5) Extreme variation of down or up speed or even both for every torrent you download


6) The amount you downloaded "in very short time" exceeds the amount of what others uploaded specially if u are downloading a huge torrent like 13 GB, which will mean that you downloaded 13GB and no one uploaded them so its easy to be detectable.

??? Does anybody have another theory of anti-cheating mechanism


I think so far: No using of proxy - use low speed with medium number of leechers (VUE Extreme does that the best which double the "REAL" upload or less which is harder to get)

[anon]

1) Proxy from different countries

Yes, if they know it's a proxy IP, or someone else uses the same one.

2) Most people will cheat when there is much peers?? So why don't trackers
detect incredible high upload speed
Regardless of number of peers peers

Some do, but it's harder to ban people with high speeds when there are seedboxes. This is why high rates work fine at ScT, for example.

3) Uploading with nearly equal download speed

If you have a symmetrical line... otherwise, you're right.

4) The amount that you uploaded Vs the amount of other people downloaded
thus if u have very high upload and the amount people downloaded for specific
torrent @ speicific time isn't even nearly equal and u exceed too much then ur a cheater

You're right with this, and The* trackers' scripts watch it a lot. However, it becomes harder to police in very big swarms.

I think so far: No using of proxy - use low speed with medium number of leechers (VUE Extreme does that the best which double the "REAL" upload or less which is harder to get)

I assume you're talking about the upload multiplier?

[arnold]

I assume you're talking about the upload multiplier?

Yup which won't add too much more than what people downloaded and u might not be the one with highest uploaded amount so its hard to get u caugt since ur uploaded amount is reasonable to ur real upload.

[anon]

Yes, if you use a sensible multiplier (don't use ones like 10 or 100) and get to upload, it's very hard to catch you.

[cheatos]

4) The amount that you uploaded Vs the amount of other people downloaded
thus if u have very high upload and the amount people downloaded for specific
torrent @ speicific time isn't even nearly equal and u exceed too much then ur a cheater

Solution: choose 20 torrent with 2-3kB/s
you'll never be detected

[arnold]

XD True if u have that kind of patience, many of the torrents i want so much have nearly no leechers so if ruins ur ratio to download with 200+ Kbs, and upload with 10 or 20

When u do the math then ur done my friend, unless u use super cheat software like RM which need more experience the VUE Extreme

Anon, please comment on #19 (permalink) Point Number 5, 6

[anon]

5) Extreme variation of down or up speed or even both for every torrent you download

Maybe not "extreme", but it can be useful when done the right way. Speeds aren't always nailed at, say, 350kB/s. For these cases I set the RM randomizer between 340 and 360kB/s, but something like 200 and 350 would be fine, too. This also applies to the Extreme Mod.

6) The amount you downloaded "in very short time" exceeds the amount of what others uploaded specially if u are downloading a huge torrent like 13 GB, which will mean that you downloaded 13GB and no one uploaded them so its easy to be detectable.

Yes, of course.

[shadowww]

One advice about speed and ratio master with fresh torrents on the trackers with peerlist: do some math and go with a swarm; If you downloaded 80% of a torrent and swarm is only at 30% of course it will look very suspicious... Better fall back and have less downloaded then swarm.