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    Jupiter Ascending

    Release Date: July 18, 2014 (3D/2D theaters and IMAX 3D)
    Studio: Warner Bros. Pictures
    Director: Andy Wachowski, Lana Wachowski
    Screenwriter: Andy Wachowski, Lana Wachowski
    Starring: Channing Tatum, Mila Kunis, Sean Bean, Eddie Redmayne, Douglas Booth, Tuppence Middleton, Doona Bae, James D'Arcy, Tim Pigott-Smith
    Genre: Action, Sci-Fi
    Jupiter Jones (Kunis) was born under a night sky, with signs predicting that she was destined for great things. Now grown, Jupiter dreams of the stars but wakes up to the cold reality of a job cleaning other people's houses and an endless run of bad breaks. Only when Caine (Tatum), a genetically engineered ex-military hunter, arrives on Earth to track her down does Jupiter begin to glimpse the fate that has been waiting for her all along—her genetic signature marks her as next in line for an extraordinary inheritance that could alter the balance of the cosmos.
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    Jupiter Jones
    lolol

    was born under a night sky, with signs predicting that she was destined for great things.
    the only problem with this is: what if she decides NOT to be a part of those great things - one simple decision shattering any previous prediction

    the cold reality of a job cleaning other people's houses and an endless run of bad breaks.
    the cold reality of having an honest job?
    or the cold reality of scriptwriters messing with our main character?

    when Caine (Tatum), a genetically engineered ex-military hunter,
    makes sense he is engineered, where else would they find pole-dancing pretty-boy stripper-soldiers/hunters anyways?

    her genetic signature marks her as next in line for an extraordinary inheritance that could alter the balance of the cosmos.
    by jupiter...this is gonna suck!
    i mean, just imagine these two being able to 'alter the balance of the cosmos'
    also, smells like another 'save the cosmos' nonsense

    btw. in case someone wondered, such a balance is impossible to alter or change or destroy - one can only work with/within the balance, not against it - or in other words: whatever happens, regardless of its magnitude or importance, it still won't affect 'the balance' (ie. 'the cosmos' moves on as expected)


    finally, for much better movies involving the wachowski brothers...umm...brother & nu-sister...ummm...trans-bro's...anyways, see:

    Assassins (1995)
    The Matrix (1999)
    The Animatrix (2003) animated
    The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
    Matrix Revolutions (2003)
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    I watched the trailer few weeks ago. I think the movie will be trash. Tatum looks stupid with the beard and the story sounds strange. The only reason I will watch the movie is Mila Kunis of course.


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    Agree
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    WTF did i just watched? What in the world was director thinking.. It looked like a fckin fairly movie meant for kids.. Mila kunis still rocks thou
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellman
    It looked like a fckin fairly movie meant for kids..
    didn't check it out, but i think you're referring to the so-called YA (young adult) movies, the latest craze, that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellman View Post
    What in the world was director thinking.. It looked like a fckin fairly movie meant for kids..
    Director: Andy Wachowski, Lana Wachowski
    Overrated?
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    still not impressed .. terrible plot
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    *** spoilers ahead ***


    Quote Originally Posted by movie
    this is supposed to mean that I am destined for great things
    and that I will find the one true love of my life.
    she must be so lucky, oh wait...
    - 'destined for great things' = transcendence
    - 'the one true love of my life' = god (the one true love of all manifested things, true love = unconditional love, the original archetype)
    or use the softer movie version:
    - 'destined for great things' = great achievements (saved the earth/species/family from the harvest, enjoys her life again)
    - 'the one true love of my life' = love between two humans (conditional love)

    Stalin's balls
    roflmao, somehow i doubt russians (or former scientists/teachers) use such swearwords

    The idea that you're the only intelligent species
    :yawn:
    animals are intelligent, matter & plants have intelligent structures, all are intelligently adapted to the environment and interconnected, though each with a different level of intelligence (depending on their purpose)

    They use the force of gravity, redirecting it into deferential equation slopes that you can surf.
    and i thought 'Genomgineered' or 'Lycantant' sounded silly

    They don't question or doubt.
    Bees don't lie
    very nice, but they also cannot tell (comprehend) the truth and live without any (capabilities of) advanced understanding

    unless they become like him. Fearless. Relentless. Perfect hunting machines.
    or unless they meet a girl (the girl, the queen)

    I don't think that most people would want to know the truth
    their current 'truth' is the only thing they are currently ready for or comfortable with, thus that is what they know

    genes have an almost spiritual significance. They are the seeds of our immortality.
    You're fourteen thousand years old?
    The problem is our genes have an expiration date which is transferred to our cells.
    your childhood has an expiration date too, just like all other phases your body goes through - but our ignorant societies choose to obsess about prolonging the middle phase of a living cycle and dreams of immortality (which is not of the materialistic world)
    notice a problem with numbers mentioned above? where grandmothers, mothers, daughters would all seem to have have the same/similar age? quite a nonsensical situation

    Time is the single most precious commodity in the universe.
    what they mean is: time to figure out how to become immortal or at least to imitate the same (similar to AI attempts)
    interestingly, in an advanced view, you have just the right amount of time for the things that need to be done in your life, whereas whatever does not happen in your life was not needed in the first place - in this sense, lack of time is an illusion

    I have more in common with a dog than I have with you.
    strangely, you never get that feeling throughout the movie, unless he meant: a watchdog or a bodyguard

    Lies are a necessity. They are the source of meaning, of belief and hope.
    :yawn:
    truth is the source of meaning, of belief and hope (true/original meaning of things, the reason for their existence), thus may be understood as a primary quality (positive)
    lies, deceptions or falsehoods are a result of not knowing the truth or having a partial understanding thereof, basically consisting of assumptions and theories regarding that unknown or unclear part of the truth, thus these may be understood as a secondary, negative quality (dependent on the primary - if the primary is wholesome, there is no place or need for the secondary)


    The more you care, the more the world finds ways to hurt you for it.
    it is either because you care about the wrong things (materialistic things), have the wrong reasons or expectations (self-serving or pleasing, conditional, based on the false ego) or understanding thereof

    every human society is a pyramid
    and that some lives will always matter more than others.
    you mean, it consists of many pyramid-like structures (institutions, companies, groups, families)

    each living being has a relevance adequate to its purpose, so for example human beings all have equal relevance in general (all humans experience a journey of self-discovery), different relevance in particular (what exactly they do, their particular role(s) )
    another example: an ear has more relevance for hearing, a foot has more relevance for walking, though both have equal relevance as parts of the body, which would be incomplete or dysfunctional without them

    If I don't seal this...you can't touch the earth, even if you kill me.
    guess the mighty commonwealth will get him then, eh?



    the good:
    - pretty good cgi, large locations, slow-motion holographic projections
    - boromir lives!


    the bad:
    - nonsensical plot
    - what believability
    - cramming all kinds of conspiratorial-related ideas (gray aliens, reptilians, human harvesting, overpopulation, alien royalty owning earth, life-extending eugenics, genetic modification/splicing/genetically re-purposed beings, human testing/abductions, even crop circles, end of dinosaurs)
    - borrowing stuff from others, examples: almighty bureaucracy from potter or gilliam, house of arrakis, i mean Abrasax (dune), flash gordon (hovercraft, winged soldiers, s(he) saved every one of us... as sung by 'queen' lol), hunger games (fashion), x-men (makeup, wolverine, i mean wolfman), underworld (Lycantant, lycan mutant), guardians of the galaxy (vibe? lol), etc.
    - overdone flashy & speedy video-game-like action, silly manual ship controls (similar to those from pacific rim) or free-floating vessel/ship design
    - nonsensical solutions (one ship vs. planetary defenses, one wolf-man vs. planetary defenses, head-on attack when outnumbered, collapsing planetary structure due to one ship intrusion,...)
    - the russians? the english? the commonwealth (in space)?
    - unconvincing aliens or their fashion
    - fascination with stars (a telescope holds the answers) - this is a metaphor for heaven, to look into spiritual matters, enlightenment (telescope returns once jupiter is more mature, astrology was right about her)
    - 'lets snatch the scientist's telescope and kill him' intro, cannot get jupe's dna until she turns ~30
    - many extreme in-your-face camera angles
    - kunis looked somewhat plump (intentional? fertility statues), never resembled or behaved like a queen (but did not abandon the position either) - her role is used as a symbol of maternal-worshiping religions, the goddess worship (the mother or queen as mentioned many times throughout the movie)
    - sky-skating gets a lot of air-time, and the military still uses wings!
    - compare kunis acting and the regenerated sister acting when they share a scene (57'), this user explains it in his own way:

    Quote Originally Posted by imdb comments
    Mila Kunis has two expressions: slightly frowning, or dead-eyed stare. I'm certain she's been told too many times that she has "pretty eyes", because she refuses to change their expression. As such, she is posing, far, far more than "acting", throughout the entire film. In fact, I have yet to see her act, and this movie offers no new evidence.

    Kunis has zero emotional awareness, as many sociopaths might experience. If you can't feel emotions, and you want to act, this is the result, every time.

    Don't believe me? Watch her eyes throughout the movie; if you can bear the pain. I guarantee you, on a brain scan, her emotional centers are either stunted, or non-existent.

    Channing Tatum's not much better. He's more like watching a football or basketball player turned actor. Nothing going on, and his makeup is ridiculous, like someone dressed him up as their cute, pet emo-dog. The opposite of intimidating, and as equally expressionless as Kunis.

    conclusion: as another imdb user mentioned: 'jupiter ascending... the wachowskis descending '

    moral of the story? what would happen in space if ignorant humans could colonize it (space-age colonialism)? the same things that happened in any colonized country of the past (exploitation galore, shown in the movie) - in current times, one may think of the main royal characters as representing mega-corporations, in past times as analogous to ruling aristocracy - notice their insatiable greed as a historical constant (also caused by ignorance of how to deal with negative desires such as greed or their meaning)
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    This film looks like a big LOL. Here's why. The way I read the excerpt of what the film is about is that it starts off with astrology.
    Astrology has no 'real world' science that proves that this pseudo-what-ever works.

    Apparently the actress in this film was given signs that she would change the world/galaxy/universe in some way. Firstly, there are no supportive claims that astrology can change the future let alone it even provide indications that it can change the future. Horoscopes, believe it or not, have been shown under some of the most rigorous scientific analysis to fail completely in predicting any kind of future event. There are no scientific trends that indicate that physical traits are related to astrological traits. For example, Gemini are not more bald or brave or selfless than someone who is a Leo or a Pisces.

    Also, I still can't figure out what planetary mechanisms (for example, the planet Jupitor or Mars, or Venus, or even our Sun) have over the future or physical, emotional, social constructs of people. Can you help with that? Unlikely that you can as scientists within the realm of psychologists, Astro-psysicists, Astro-biologists, Bio-chemists can't determine that either.

    Finally, because this movie starts off with the idea that the protagonist was given some "sign' that she is destined for greater things, did you know that everyone's astrological "sign" is wrong. Yup. That's right. And that's even being said if you believe in astrology. Here's why: The Zodiac charts were set more than 1800 years ago. Since then the position of our Earth relative to other heavenly bodies in the galaxy and elsewhere within has shifted. The earth is spinning on its axis. It has been wobbling like a top. Probably will continue to do so for a bit more.
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    @SealLion:

    Astrology has no 'real world' science that proves that this pseudo-what-ever works.
    in the current age (of ignorance) all kinds of knowledge have deteriorated, including mainstream science and astrology
    it is not wise to dismiss ancient knowledge or systems simply because they do not fare well with current scientific understanding (which is known to change often, as new, more acceptable theories arrive on the scene)

    there are no supportive claims that astrology can change the future let alone it even provide indications that it can change the future.
    it tries to explain certain aspects of the past/present/future, not change any of it
    though many (mainly in the west) think it can be used to change the future (however, knowing something in advance does not necessarily mean being able to change it)

    Also, I still can't figure out what planetary mechanisms (for example, the planet Jupitor or Mars, or Venus, or even our Sun) have over the future or physical, emotional, social constructs of people.
    on a superficial level: a (future) sunny day will tend to make you happy, thus influencing how you feel (in the future)
    on a deeper level: the planets have other purposes than being mere materialistic objects in the sky (just like your life has other purposes than merely going through its phases)

    Finally, because this movie starts off with the idea that the protagonist was given some "sign' that she is destined for greater things, did you know that everyone's astrological "sign" is wrong.
    you're assuming - no claim was made about any other sign

    The Zodiac charts were set more than 1800 years ago.
    the zodiac systems are as old as intelligent astronomers/astrologists (in ancient times these two went hand in hand, unlike nowadays)

    Since then the position of our Earth relative to other heavenly bodies in the galaxy and elsewhere within has shifted. The earth is spinning on its axis. It has been wobbling like a top. Probably will continue to do so for a bit more.
    so? competent systems take all that into consideration
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    u guys suck you are removing the charm from /each movie

    the movie term come's from entertainment purposes .meaning a way to have fun,relax movies can be movies that make them laugh, while for others it can mean movies that make them cry, or feel afraid (wiki)..the movie purpose is fictional story mostly ,excepting the documentary's , so what's the point on searching a real meaning in something that is designed to entertain ? if you want real facts or so called real facts watch history or discovery

    you want only oscar movies ? sorry ...that type of movies has stopped to be released since 2000..shame...they will not be back no mather how long ar hard people start complaining

    bottom line : i watched the movie, it was pretty good considering the fact that SF movies market is pretty dry , but i was not paying attention to the ears of Channing Tatum in the movie, the fact that it flyes with his boots or other insginificant BS...like "the spoon in the kitchen was on the left side of table instead right -> movie suck

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    u guys suck you are removing the charm from /each movie
    I have to agree. I too love analyzing a movie, but not to the point where they lose their charm. And even the best ones can, at some point ... Hell, I've seen my favourite movie enough times that I can point out enough details to make it sound like the worst movie ever. But refusing to do so lets it stay on my little pedestal .

    I think searching a real meaning is flawed for a lot of movies, especially ones like this one. A movie like this one is meant purely for entertainment.


    Also, on a sidenote: I feel like movies with deeper meaning etc have stopped since the general population feels a bit more dumb to me every single day. Maybe it's just me being a pessimist, but every time something with a deeper meaning gets released these days, it's either completely missed or complained about for being too complicated. Since movie makers are trying to earn their buck, it's the general population they're trying to please.
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