mRatio 5.4.1

[anon]

Do I need to use mratio fixer if I don't get errors?

Not if you're so fortunate, but such a scenario is the exception rather than the rule these days. If you hover your mouse cursor over the smiley icon or check the torrent logs, you'll be able to spot error messages (if any) and then decide.

[donkeykong]

Not if you're so fortunate, but such a scenario is the exception rather than the rule these days. If you hover your mouse cursor over the smiley icon or check the torrent logs, you'll be able to spot error messages (if any) and then decide.

I don't see anything when I hover the mouse, I have 3 different trackers there but they seem to be working. But if mratio is dangerous I think I will switch to rm+ rather than run two programs for mratio, rm+ works fine on its own right?

[anon]

I don't see anything when I hover the mouse

"If you hover your mouse cursor over the smiley icon or check the torrent logs..."

if mratio is dangerous

"There are no known serious flaws in mRatio beyond what's addressed by that addon."

rm+ works fine on its own right?

Unfortunately it has a bug preventing responses from being decoded correctly for most trackers that use Cloudflare, which is... many of them. Feel free to give it a try, but if you see errors complaining that the tracker response is empty, you'll have to wait for the next version.

[donkeykong]

"If you hover your mouse cursor over the smiley icon or check the torrent logs..."

"There are no known serious flaws in mRatio beyond what's addressed by that addon."

Unfortunately it has a bug preventing responses from being decoded correctly for most trackers that use Cloudflare, which is... many of them. Feel free to give it a try, but if you see errors complaining that the tracker response is empty, you'll have to wait for the next version.

Hmm I'd rather use a ratio tool for cheating over a modded client for simplicity but it seems they all haven't been updated in a while. I'll use mratio fixer for now because I have no experience with the biglybt mod but it seems clients are a better choice nowadays?

[anon]

it seems they all haven't been updated in a while

Fortunately there aren't any critical bugs beyond what we've already discussed (although RM+ does have a fairly long roadmap).

I have no experience with the biglybt mod

That can be solved by reading the documentation.

it seems clients are a better choice nowadays?

There aren't right or wrong answers here, the decision depends on preference and context. Or as I said recently...

...the fact mRatio, RatioMaster Plus, Serenity and others also have a dedicated user base [vs. Extreme Mod] prove there's a fairly situational and personal element to this decision. For example, BBTEM has relatively high hardware requirements and wouldn't be my first choice for fake-seeding a few thousand torrents to get bonus points (not the mod's fault, the base client is written in Java after all).

[donkeykong]

I installed biglybt to try it out in a VM to avoid bloat on my main computer and it seems like it installed some network device on my main computer regardless, mission failed lol. Anyway I didn't like the interface and wouldn't switch to it as main client and java is even more bloat so I'm not going to do that. I just wish there was a ratio tool that was up to date and worked out of the box that I could use without worrying.

(although RM+ does have a fairly long roadmap)..

What do you mean by that?

[anon]

I installed biglybt to try it out in a VM to avoid bloat on my main computer and it seems like it installed some network device on my main computer regardless

Your virtualization program did that, BiglyBT does not install any network interfaces (let alone on the host of a virtualized system).

Anyway I didn't like the interface and wouldn't switch to it as main client

The interface is configurable, and I don't expect anyone to use the default settings, with the sidebar and built-in browser and featured content

java is even more bloat so I'm not going to do that.

Unfortunately the reliance on Java and subsequent resource usage is indeed a make-or-break point for many people. As someone who last upgraded his computer on 2015 I like it as much as you do, but it's a fair price to pay in exchange for having the best and most feature-filled mod in existence.

I just wish there was a ratio tool that was up to date and worked out of the box that I could use without worrying.

A lot of people like JOAL. It's way less complex than mRatio or RatioMaster Plus by design, however. Whether that's an asset or liability depends on what you want to do.

What do you mean by that?

There are other, lower-priority bugs to address and an ambitious list of planned features, including the ability to connect to peers and get a real-time picture of swarm conditions.

[donkeykong]

Your virtualization program did that, BiglyBT does not install any network interfaces (let alone on the host of a virtualized system).



The interface is configurable, and I don't expect anyone to use the default settings, with the sidebar and built-in browser and featured content



Unfortunately the reliance on Java and subsequent resource usage is indeed a make-or-break point for many people. As someone who last upgraded his computer on 2015 I like it as much as you do, but it's a fair price to pay in exchange for having the best and most feature-filled mod in existence.



A lot of people like JOAL. It's way less complex than mRatio or RatioMaster Plus by design, however. Whether that's an asset or liability depends on what you want to do.



There are other, lower-priority bugs to address and an ambitious list of planned features, including the ability to connect to peers and get a real-time picture of swarm conditions.

I didn't realize it was the VM program that did that but now that I think about it it makes sense. I'm sure the interface can be customized but I'd like to keep the idle power consumption of the PC as low as possible so I want a lightweight client, a java program running all the time probably wouldn't be good for that, especially with many torrents. The other alternative I see is uSerenity but it's based on utorrent 2.2.1 and I don't want to use such old software, plus it also doesn't work out of the box due to technical issues with piece and torrent sizes, GGN mentioned that yesterday when they announced they will be blacklisting utorrent in 6 months.

As for Joal I have no opinion, never tried it, does it work with no issues on any sites? Can it be run along with a real client on the same websites at the same time like mratio? Complexity is not a big problem to me, I just want a clean interface and the obvious options for speed that changes every x minutes, client spoofing/memory reader, choosing your own port, adding torrents as seeder, etc. I know mratio has things like automated waffles method and flashing but I don't use that anyway.

I chekced a few last pages of the rm+ thread and saw the developer is active and working on 2.2 so that's good news at least, previously I had just seen the last update is from 2017 and I thought it was also abandoned

[anon]

The other alternative I see is uSerenity but it's based on utorrent 2.2.1 and I don't want to use such old software, plus it also doesn't work out of the box due to technical issues with piece and torrent sizes, GGN mentioned that yesterday when they announced they will be blacklisting utorrent in 6 months.

The 1 TB torrent and 16 MB piece limits have been a vexing issue for a while now, due to the inflation in file sizes since 2010 (we didn't have 4 GB TV episodes and 16 TB hard disks back then). Some people have been busted for emulating uTorrent 2.2.1 and then cheating on torrents they shouldn't be able to add in the first place.

Anyway, I skimmed through GGn's announcement via /r/trackers. Besides the parts about uTorrent being proprietary software and having made dubious software bundling choices in the past, all of the criticism applies exclusively to version 2.2.1, but it seems they didn't want to take any half-measures. Even if banning this highly popular client seems like shooting themselves on the foot, I can respect that and the generous time limit given, and ultimately their site = their rules.

As for Joal I have no opinion, never tried it, does it work with no issues on any sites? Can it be run along with a real client on the same websites at the same time like mratio? Complexity is not a big problem to me, I just want a clean interface and the obvious options for speed that changes every x minutes, client spoofing/memory reader, choosing your own port, adding torrents as seeder, etc. I know mratio has things like automated waffles method and flashing but I don't use that anyway.

The fact JOAL is also Java-based may make these questions moot

I chekced a few last pages of the rm+ thread and saw the developer is active and working on 2.2 so that's good news at least, previously I had just seen the last update is from 2017 and I thought it was also abandoned

Progress is slow - partly my fault - but it's on the works.

The best choice I see for you right now is mRatio. If you install Fixer in service mode after doing the initial setup, you won't even notice it's there.

[donkeykong]

The best choice I see for you right now is mRatio. If you install Fixer in service mode after doing the initial setup, you won't even notice it's there.

Yep this is my conclusion as well. Doing that for now and waiting for the next RM+ version.

[Unregistered]

Torrent showing no announce and the finish button is greyed out. Can someone please help me?

[anon]

Please upload a copy of the offending .torrent file to https://tmp.ninja/ or another file host and I'll have a look. (If you're the same person who just reported a similar problem with RM+ and the torrent is the same, then let me know)

[Decujus]

Is there a way to run mRatio at startup minimized?

What I actually wanted was a way to make it startup with windows and also start all torrents automatically.
If not possible, I want it to at least run at startup minimized. I tried puttin a shortcut at Windows startup folder, and it does start, however if in the shortcut properties I set it to run in a minimized window, whenever it starts from that shortcut, it gives an error saying mRatio had to close.

[anon]

and also start all torrents automatically

This can be done by passing parameter -startall to the executable.

if in the shortcut properties I set it to run in a minimized window, whenever it starts from that shortcut, it gives an error saying mRatio had to close

This is very strange. Unfortunately I can't test this right now, but can you try setting the shortcut to run mRatio as administrator?

[Decujus]

This is very strange. Unfortunately I can't test this right now, but can you try setting the shortcut to run mRatio as administrator?

The thing is, for me to run mRatio as administrator at startup, I have to use windows task scheduler instead of just a shortcut at startup folder. I can add arguments on task scheduler, so I can use -startall. However I can't make it start minimized unless there's also an argument for that. The only other way I can think of is making a batch script with 'start /min' but it'd be best if there's argument :)