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    I was sceptical of this movie , also didn't watched the previous movie of this new saga.

    But I'm impressed , i liked the sci-fi effects and the whole story.

    If you guys are interested to watch a deep movie review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VA
    It was pretty good movie.
    I liked the first and loved this one better.
    But I'm impressed , i liked the sci-fi effects and the whole story.
    looks like another one of those: 'we must have been watching a different movie'

    i thought this movie was somewhere around the recent godzilla kind-of-bad, incredibly awful on numerous levels, especially for something with such a huge budget at their disposal - the only relatively good thing was cgi (of the GREEN forest, close-ups of animal bodies/faces, some behavior/movement - as opposed to animal emotions/interactions with each other, humans or the environment which didn't quite work, especially not regarding action scenes)

    *spoilers ahead*

    the obligatory fear-mongering was ample:

    - apocalyptic effects of a simbian flu (you know, that mild illness with scary symptoms such as 'a running nose' becomes ridiculously inflated, making everyone believe they should be running for their lives, while investigating no further than their nose)
    - they assume it takes 8-10 years for a modern city to turn into a semi-jungle, whereas the surrounding forest looks like something out of a planned reforestation scenario
    - a decimated population can run out of just about every energy-generating option faster than a full-sized population with full-blown consumption! (500:1 with no rationing means 500x longer usage: 1 previous year of consumption = 500 years for the human leftover population)
    - nuclear reactor meltdowns (wouldn't happen because there are things like planned shutdowns and minimum load operation)
    - a collapse of civil society & fighting (over what? sudden surpluses of resources & products, flu-free grass from obama's pristine lawns?)

    evolved apes:

    - perform some of the poorest hunting imaginable (with clueless ape-friendly stags and an indecisive bear hiding in the bushes) even though they have amazing stealthmaster skills on copy-pasted trees with dry, yet resilient branches
    - belong somewhere in the (late) stone age era
    - are amazingly silent, amazingly emotional and silly looking for wild animals, mostly use sign language for no particular reason, they barely/rarely speak
    - don't do scouting outside of their territory, don't have guards or barriers, don't know what is going on with the humans (their most feared enemies), aren't even curious in over 2 years (humans had lights/power, their settlement was not that far away)
    - gather en masse when a shot gets fired
    - there's only a few hundred apes with primitive weapons
    - their crude spears can scare barricaded humans with machine guns!
    - they make demands, loudly, proudly (caesar, right?) - humans keep their underwear wet, mouths wide open (speechless)!
    - apes have no problem letting humans do their work on the dam, no compensation requests (like: we want them lights too!)
    - they destroy human guns on sight even though these are better than their spears
    - they know how advanced weaponry looks like... scratch that, they know how to use it with no prior training, impressive!
    - caesar cannot control his opponents or children, their social order hangs by a thread, every incident makes them go ape
    - apes can enter the human settlement with no barriers or guards in their way, its a surprise attack, even though a war was imminent a few hours ago
    - ape cavalry = major fail, they basically kept shooting randomly, even at their own soldiers
    - ape+horse (frontal attack) > armored vehicle! apes keep on coming, how many are there?
    - apes capturing humans! apes capturing dissenting apes! dissenting apes escape by crushing apes under the bus! lol
    - apes like high towers (king kong syndrome?)
    - caesar not kill ape! but he kill koba - ape not kill ape (without cause)!

    characters:

    - solid oldman, but way overacted (the shakes!)
    - first-contact team leader - doesn't want to lose everything, so he takes his family on the risky mission... so they can lose it all together? sounds like he already lost it - he also offers his own life while bargaining with the apes, as if he has no family (hope the apes don't tell his wife, or he is toast!)
    - wife worries about her husband by keeping her hands in the pockets... until they mention the war... dat word!
    - the baruchel-lookalike teenager thinks it is safer to meet the aggressive & hostile apes than to stay in town, his parents agree, so they all go - the camera likes his depressed face, he teaches comics (to an ape)!
    - that carver idiot keeps reaching for his gun(s) for unknown reasons, he thinks the apes infected humans on purpose!

    lame humans:

    - no one seems to know about these apes being here, no one tries making a vaccine, no one knows these apes can talk or that they behave differently, pretty much everyone is clueless about the biggest event of their times, unbelievable!
    - the first-contact team is incredible, they stumble upon the apes in the silliest of ways, the conflict starts in a similar fashion, they talk about the possibly operational dam (didn't even see it up close but they know it could work), about the talking apes (human leader does not believe them, his best people), about the virus contagion (what did they do, examine forest leaves for immunity?)
    - did you notice how afraid or depressed/desperate or panicky those spineless humans were... all the time, such nonsense!
    - the first human concern is: are they immune (10 years of immunity means nothing?), not: are they ready to defend their base
    - it takes them 10 years to start rebuilding the city, yet not even their own settlement/base looks any better than some ghetto
    - if the flu hits, you lose any kind of communication throughout the world, you cannot move around the world (no transportation options), a handful of usa apes can infect the whole globe (guess they travel a lot, not to mention their global sneeze-attack)
    - they need a whole dam to operate a radio transmitter, wow
    - no one knows how the dam works except crazy carver, the flu must have infected those operation manuals as well, disfiguring them beyond recognition, let alone readability
    - talk fast, technical & using phrases in front of the apes, but they have no problem with understanding!
    - scary camp-fire stories about strong apes (they live in the wilderness so that makes them stronger than humans - naturally, the flu virus must have damaged the human brain too)
    - the settlement is on high ape alert but seems no one guards the weapons or keeps an eye out for sneaking apes (granted, its extremely hard to notice a few silently swinging 100kg stealthmasters)
    - how to fix a dam? you blow stuff up - they detonate without warnings, apes are cool with that
    - human antibiotics work on apes (takes only a few hours)
    - humans (incl. an ordinary family) can outrun blood-thirsty apes in the woods
    - humans have no checks on their personnel, not even during wartime, their armory is outside the main gates!
    - front gate folds like its made of cardboard
    - humans have a surplus of weapons but haven't prepared/trained the general population
    - first-contact team running away from crazed apes somehow ends up returning for the wounded caesar (no ape was tending to his wound(s), yet they were shown to take care of their wounded ape soldiers), quickly fixing his gunshot wound (from koba, the one-shot sniper expert) and as they drive towards the settlement, they coincidentally stumble across caesar's old home (from the first movie) no less! in under a day caesar is ready to fight like a pro again, taking on the strongest of his opponents!
    - saving the human race? by blowing up one tower full of apes lol
    - a nearby c4 explosion does not hurt our team leader, it waits 'till he ducks
    - human reinforcements come from out of nowhere in the last moment and caesar gets ready to kick some more spineless behinds...


    moral of the story: (intelligent) apes are like humans (caesar concludes so after he got betrayed)
    moral of the whole franchise: there are 2 types of people out there: humans & apes, whose planet will it be? oh wait,... (the title already reveals that part!)... but there's a twist: since apes are 'natural' and humans are like a virus, its better to leave it to the apes! (or at least until humans 'grow out of it')
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