a secure os is worthless without the apps you want or need. and security depends on the configuration as well so the only thing that makes you more secure with linux is the missing virii. only if you're able to configure it well it'll be tightOriginally Posted by tokiodrift1
i'm afraid but it dösn't look like it. it's been that way for years and almost nothing changed.
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I ain't no programmer. But I own and maintain (for home usage) 2 (arch)linux rigs and 1 windows xp.
And, I can tell... Linux machine is just as good as windows one for watching porn, so don't be in delusion that you need to be a programmer to use linux.
Also, I see no lack of applications (except games), but I guess that is issue for some very specific usage. Like scientific apps? As a last resort there is always WINE which can run much of Windows stuff pretty well, ya know. ^_^
I don't think anyone ever said that. If this is referring to my post, I was merely pointing out that the professional developers often don't care about pushing a lot of money into letting their app support linux. And in the end I can't blame themso don't be in delusion that you need to be a programmer to use linux.
That being said, linux does indeed have a huge variety of programs and you CAN work on it without ever having to think "oh i wish i had program X".
HOWEVER, For photoshop, there's gimp. For office, there's openoffice, and so on. I just can't shake the feeling that these open source variants are so much worse than the originals. Gimp is nothing compared to photoshop, office works so much easier and fails less (for me at least) than openoffice and all those other apps.
The same goes for those special mac audio and video programs, their variants on other systems just DO NOT cut it for me
Also, I don't know how much exactly whine has improved, but when i was still interested, it was a huge piece of crap. So slow and not even half of the stuff worked without having to read a 100 page manual. I'm gonna say to you as I tell to mac users proud with their boot camp:
If you're going to mainly use whine or boot camp, you might want to think about switching OS.
Last edited by Sazzy; 20.07.10 at 00:11.
It isn't referring to any post in particular, I just noticed how sbifreak linked to programming part of linux wiki page and that alone was enough for me to write statement you quoted.
I think its matter of perspective, if you are very skilled in photoshop then thats tool for you without much talk. I don't even use photoshop on Windows PC, its too damn fat and too much useless options for me (I use Paint.net instead). GIMP is great project, and app is quite powerful if you take time to get used to new... "style".
Can't agree with you about openoffice. It serves me much better then microsoft's one. No crashes whatsoever. But I use Your Office Suite (its slightly improved then normal edition)
Last edited by shadowww; 20.07.10 at 00:18. Reason: minor word
I was talking about, testing the security like tools which are included in backtrack (also available for ubuntu)
Photoshop really does grow on you and Gimp is good, just not as good as photoshop, in my opinion. Though for a free variant, free being the main keyword here, it's pretty amazing. Don't forget that photoshop will cost you 800 euro
Paint.NET is a great tool for quick fixups and simple projects but it lacks in some areas that photoshop does perfectly :( Yet again, it's free and free is a big keyword.
Problems with both of these seem to be a very personal issue. Everyone has different problems and only one of the two works for them
In my case, it's not like either of them crashes often, my main problem was that I saved a file with a certain mark up where I sometimes spent ages working on. Save, close, re-open it later and oh no, my mark up looks like a hurricane has gone through :( So I tend to stick with office after that happening quite some times.
Actually, the last few years of uni have learned me to use LaTeX for texts and it is now my tool of preference. Stuff like excel isn't even installed anymore since I never use them anyway. So that leaves powerpoint and word for a quickie!
It surprises me that this has not been done in windows yet. Though the strength of the backtrack disk is that it just boots and doesn't leave traces. Though I dont think a lot of people would describe that as "testing"
A special disk, for special people. ^^...
It surprises me that this has not been done in windows yet. Though the strength of the backtrack disk is that it just boots and doesn't leave traces. Though I dont think a lot of people would describe that as "testing"
Yeah, I was going to circumscribe it.
Anyway, if you are able to use it, than you're able to do a lot of 'nice' stuff.
Last edited by tokiodrift1; 20.07.10 at 00:38.
Compiling a source code isn't programming,writing the source code isIt isn't referring to any post in particular, I just noticed how sbifreak linked to programming part of linux wiki page and that alone was enough for me to write statement you quoted.
Yes, I somewhere stated otherwise?
but as soon as compiling dösn't work just by doing configure-make-make install you need to dig into the code. at least a littleCompiling a source code isn't programming,writing the source code is
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Portable apps on your USB working on any distro.
http://portablelinuxapps.org/
A great link actually!
There is a possibility to run~70% windows apps on linuxjust like that. One way is doing it under wine (most of appz will work- all MS office apps and so on blablabla...), alternative using a VM (not the best way, but wine works in most cases). Only thing that linux cant do so well is gaming, a lot of windows games works, but there are significant loss in performance for high end graphic directx games, if you have a good graphics card, you will be able to run for example COD4, LFS, CS or other Source engine games just like you do on windows.
For example - why to use winamp, if rhythmbox is easier to use, faster, easier to manage music library and takes less resources? The same story with utorrent - transmission is even easier to use, more lightweight that utorrent (in case you use VEM, you shouldnt care).
And by the way Valve will launch a native Steam client for linux soon, so Source engine will be ported to use OpenGL in linux just like they did with mac. If games run great under linux, there would be loads of people coming to linux distributions...
I've been using ubuntu for half year as my main OS on my laptop (i still use Win7 x64 for my desktop gaming machine) and i like the way it works, looks and I am amazed about how many people helps to improve it... well just look at M$ and see the difference. Ubuntu have really improved since last year and it just will improve even more in time
Last edited by dju; 28.07.10 at 14:47. Reason: some mooar to add
Q_Q .Waiting for Jolicloud and http://www.manhattanos.com/.Both of them should have already been released right now.
Last edited by SBfreak; 03.08.10 at 20:02.
Hey SBFreak!
I reinstalled Ubuntu 9.0.4 on my laptop
Is there any way to get Ubuntu 10 update without burning a CD??
Last edited by Blocker; 04.08.10 at 21:51.
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