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    Question Is leak to bittorent a GOOD or a BAD thing - case study of ‘Ink’ movie

    Is leak to bitttorent a GOOD or a BAD thing - case study of ‘Ink’ movie

    ‘Ink’ – The Movie That Blew Up On BitTorrent
    Written by enigmax on February 05, 2010
    In November 2009, an indie movie received unprecedented worldwide attention after becoming a massive hit on BitTorrent networks. ‘Ink’, which was downloaded well in excess of 400,000 times, shot into the top 20 movies on iMDb. In a new interview, the creators talk about their experience and the future of movie distribution.

    Written and directed by Jamin Winans, Ink is an indie movie about a mercenary who appears in the dreams of a comatose 8 year old girl. As with most movies, one part of the story was particularly predictable. It was quickly ripped and ended up on BitTorrent.

    Just over a week after becoming available online in early November 2009, Ink pushed into TorrentFreak’s chart of top 10 most pirated movies with an incredible 400,000 downloads.
    full article on TorrentFreak:
    ‘Ink’ – The Movie That Blew Up On BitTorrent | TorrentFreak
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    firstly this is not a case study as it lacks data to justify this title, secondly, nowhere in the article does it say anything about a case study

    @ Vation - why are you changing the original article titles, is this an attempt to make them more interesting or something? just leave them as is, maybe add [FSF] or [TF] at the beginning of the thread and that should do it, otherwise it can be actually misleading to rename them as you did (similar example is the oscar nominee thread - no analysis there)
    an indie movie received unprecedented worldwide attention after becoming a massive hit on BitTorrent networks. ‘Ink’, which was downloaded well in excess of 400,000 times, shot into the top 20 movies on iMDb.
    since we have no information about whether this is something unusual concerning indie movies (whats their expected download number range), as naturally their top 10 chart shows no numbers, which makes the information as one of those that we just have to believe, with no additional data to compare it with other indie movies...so i'll just make an assumption and say that the reason this indie movie had such popularity is apparently in its appeal to the viewers (unlike other indie ones, i guess)
    Unlike the majority of Hollywood movie bosses, the creators of Ink – Jamin and Kiowa Winans – decided to embrace their new-found pirate fans after the extra publicity pushed the movie to 16th place on IMDb’s movie meter and boosted DVD and Blu-ray sales. Kiowa wrote to TorrentFreak and said that the movie ending up on BitTorrent was “absolutely” the best thing that could’ve happened to it.
    lets just skip the ever-reoccurring (imo this is intentional) wrong labeling: 'piracy' which has little to do with 'filesharing'

    see, i don't buy that embracing part, as they would most likely act the same as the big companies if they had info about decreasing sales attributed to filesharing - for now these indie movie-makers are enjoying publicity, largely caused by the effects of filesharing - what i'm expecting later on is that these two will conveniently forget why they had their 5 min of popularity and thus won't do their part in promoting filesharing as they should - basically its: oh thank you fans, pirates, donators and whatnot (read: for filling up our pockets, giving us popularity, securing future contracts and so on) as long as it serves their interests - i'd love if they proved me wrong by actively supporting filesharing in their own way, but i'm afraid we're not there yet - imo those who donate should consider this and maybe even go further and directly confront these two by asking them if they are going to promote filesharing after these events and in what way - to see how these two would dodge that one

    I think a reasonably-priced instant download the moment the movie becomes available would largely cure the piracy issue
    no, has happened before (itunes & co), didn't change much, as for reasonable prices - thats yet to happen (if it happens at all), btw what are her sources for these predictions, since they are pretty much wrong

    many music and movie companies consider torrent sites as entities to be crushed and in recent years have set about a strategy to achieve that.
    not convinced, they are calculating, how to get profit from all of it, since its already there, no need to destroy it all - thats probably why we didn't see entertainment industry going in attacking at full scale

    While one could argue that non-physical digital formats such as MP3 are part of the reason that piracy has flourished in recent years, Kiowa feels that the invention of the iPod has helped to reduce piracy
    filesharing flourished, piracy has been in decline for decades

    ipod is yet another corporate product (aimed at a higher class of people), now why would an indie movie maker want to advertise stuff like that - hidden allegiances, call for sponsors?

    The industry needs to move its thinking to encompass global distribution, says Kiowa, not concentrate on pushing movies out to dozens of separate territories.
    thats called cutting costs, without doing the same to the final product price it has virtually no effect on consumers, just helps the industry (as expected)

    “As Jamin likes to say, the battle of independent films is not piracy, it’s obscurity. Hey – at least we’re winning that one!”
    isn't that nice, how do you plan to return the favor to filesharing?
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