What tools, methods or basically config you use on PTs?

Basically this thread is about what cheat mods you use together or alone to cheat on PTs along with the methods you use(waffle....or as such).

This could potentially be really very useful for new members who dont have a lot of knowledge as to how to actually use different tools together and how to do effective cheating with right tools, and yes this very much includes me.

For me personally, till date I have only used used Ratio Ghost with uTorrent and qBittorent for ratio. I have used Speedtest spoofing tool here for getting my account enabled again(Thank you for that tool, it saved my account:smile:)

This thread can as well be used to sugegst someone, some more tools or alternatives to better there setup.

Any and all posts on this topic will help me and maybe some other newcomers who dont have as much experience doing this a lot. This could possibly be our guide in doing it right.

Will be waiting to hear some suggesitons and configurations that the site members use around here.

It depends on what you like and what you want and how you want to cheat.

It also depends on tracker, some are good and some are worst to cheat.

Question is where you want to cheat, mention some tracker where you might cheat.

How you cheat ? want to increase ratio or just want to leech something.

i was 1st banned on tl 1 time due to stupidity and on 2-3 times on hdt due to their scripts and techniques to caught.
Then i became expert on cheating, cheating techniques might be different on different trackers.

from your post i think you only want leeching torrents without affecting ratio?

My post was actually regarding how someone here as a member cheat. I think not many here would be using both BiglyBT mod and RM+ together, some might be using one or the other.

So it is more focused on what technique you use, because I assume many here would be using the same client for cheating but with just different numbers and torrents they target. Ofcourse everybody would have different numbers set up in their cheating client and that really is not the focus.

For me personally I am looking to get ratio and upload credit so that I can get in the invite forums and actually build a little buffer, right now for GGn, EMP and AnimeBytes.

I would love suggestions for these places, or even suggestions in general as your combinaiton of tools.

techniques changes from tracker to tracker, on some trackers you will be not able to cheat, but just pretend to seeding 0kb/s, time duration according to requirement of trackers roles. pick newly torrents with lot of leechers.

on emp or any p0rn tracker, pick large packs like siterips or megapack, but pick new ones with lot of leechers and use rm+2.1, you can also use mratio or any other, but i recommend rm, better to pick client qbittorrent or deluge, and go for settings and use when it should be stopped XX.XX leechers, or xx.xx amount of upload. same roles are for ipt and tl, but try to pick freeleech torrents. do not use high upload/download speed. speed should not be larger than your avg country users. if possible it should be according to your connection.

Thank you for that suggestion, can I by any chance know what trackers you mean when you say, not able to cheat? I had better be cautious around those.

One of the techniques that I am using is to get to the site at the end of the day, look at top 10 of the day and snatch the first few, and fake upload on those, is this a good method? considering a lot of the them dont actually have leechers but since it has a lot of seeders, and since it was top downloaded torrent of the day I can easily mask in?

About the high up/down speeds, I will make sure not to go over some unrealistic speeds, and gain buffer.

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

Thank you for that suggestion, can I by any chance know what trackers you mean when you say, not able to cheat? I had better be cautious around those.

One of the techniques that I am using is to get to the site at the end of the day, look at top 10 of the day and snatch the first few, and fake upload on those, is this a good method? considering a lot of the them dont actually have leechers but since it has a lot of seeders, and since it was top downloaded torrent of the day I can easily mask in?

About the high up/down speeds, I will make sure not to go over some unrealistic speeds, and gain buffer.

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some trackers have very small leechers on torrents, like 1, 2 or 3 and similar, then you can be ban,
like red, very notorious tracker, bluebird, hdt and teamhd does not show leechers, seeders, so are risky, but cheat still possible, hdt is very risky for this, but still cheat possible, i was banned there 2 or 3 times, then uploaded tera bytes, but then i never used it, their internal encodes are good but if you have very large led tv, but i still prefer scene encodes or small encodes, if you have 40 to 49 inch led tv, their encode size is nearly 15+ gb mostly. i think most of time ipt or tl or fl is enough, as these 3 almost get every p2p encodes and scene encodes ip and tl.

if you can afford seedbox, i will recommend even small seedbox, as its very easy to get tera bytes on emp and pornbay and sharing is caring, otherwise you are free to use rm+2.1, i think it will be better 1st get few tera bytes in emp 1 or 2 tb and then download any torrent without loosing ratio. but i will recommend always slow speed will be less risky, and never greedy to get tera bytes, and always cheating will be high risk, do not cheat on every torrent, better do not use ratio ghost on emp, get 1tb+ on emp on free leech torrents, then no need to cheat. you need to use brain where to cheat and where not, do not try cheat on old torrents.

Thanks for the advice I will keep this in mind when trying to gain buffer on EMP.

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

what cheat mods you use together or alone to cheat on PTs along with the methods you use(waffle....or as such).

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https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?p=359491

If you want further ideas... I find that bonus point farming and ghostleeching are fairly underrated and underused tactics. Both have their own sets of caveats, but once you know them, it's basically set and forget. Also, even though it could be implemented via TLS termination or SSL stripping, no known proxy tool supports HTTPS and Ratio Ghost is not the exception. So unless you only join trackers that somehow do not enforce encryption and never choose to do so in the future, you'll have to research alternatives at some point.

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Originally Posted by JohnWick

i was 1st banned on tl 1 time due to stupidity and on 2-3 times on hdt due to their scripts and techniques to caught.
Then i became expert on cheating

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No offense, but true experts do not become so in such a short period of time, nor by making few mistakes, nor by only cheating on trackers where difficulty is easy to moderate and using a seedbox for the rest (which is something you've claimed to do several times).

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

For me personally I am looking to get ratio and upload credit so that I can get in the invite forums and actually build a little buffer, right now for GGn, EMP and AnimeBytes.

I would love suggestions for these places, or even suggestions in general as your combinaiton of tools.

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GGn and AB have generous point systems. You can get by simply by seeding everything you download permanently. There's also the possibility of speeding up the process via fake seeding, as long as you aren't stupid enough to do it on torrents you couldn't plausibly have the files for, or become the only alleged seeder on something and leave others wondering why they can't download. GGn also gives you bonuses for idling on IRC and posting in the forums.

EMP has porn, what could build ratio faster than that? If your real upload speed is at least 100 KB/s, the usual tactics of permaseeding (especially freeleech stuff) and partial-seeding something from a pack will work wonders. You can throw in fake upload on good torrents where the size of the swarm protects you, but I'm not a big fan of cheating when you don't really need to. And I still like Pornolab more, but that's a different matter...

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Originally Posted by anon

https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?p=359491

If you want further ideas... I find that bonus point farming and ghostleeching are fairly underrated and underused tactics. Both have their own sets of caveats, but once you know them, it's basically set and forget. Also, even though it could be implemented via TLS termination or SSL stripping, no known proxy tool supports HTTPS and Ratio Ghost is not the exception. So unless you only join trackers that somehow do not enforce encryption and never choose to do so in the future, you'll have to research alternatives at some point.



No offense, but true experts do not become so in such a short period of time, nor by making few mistakes, nor by only cheating on trackers where difficulty is easy to moderate and using a seedbox for the rest (which is something you've claimed to do several times).



GGn and AB have generous point systems. You can get by simply by seeding everything you download permanently. There's also the possibility of speeding up the process via fake seeding, as long as you aren't stupid enough to do it on torrents you couldn't plausibly have the files for, or become the only alleged seeder on something and leave others wondering why they can't download. GGn also gives you bonuses for idling on IRC and posting in the forums.

EMP has porn, what could build ratio faster than that? If your real upload speed is at least 100 KB/s, the usual tactics of permaseeding (especially freeleech stuff) and partial-seeding something from a pack will work wonders. You can throw in fake upload on good torrents where the size of the swarm protects you, but I'm not a big fan of cheating when you don't really need to. And I still like Pornolab more, but that's a different matter...

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i did not meant i am expert,
i meant now i am expert to cheat on hdt, now i know how to cheat there,

i was banned on tl, because i did not know other tools like rm, that time, but only ratio ghost,
i kept speed 18gb to get good ratio, and that was 1st time i cheated in any torrent tracker,
ratio ghost may be good for leeching in past ( not good as gready torrent), but for good ratio rm and mratio and similar tools are best, i was banned on hdt 2 times i think, both time i completed torrent when no one was able to complete file, except actual uploader of torrent, reason was that tracker do not show seeders leechers, now i know how to cheat there, but when i uploaded more than 1 tera byte there, i stopped cheated there, real reason is i was downloading their encodes which has avg size of 15gb per movies, after few months, my all hard disk internal external, were without any space, then i deleted all encodes from them and other p2p encodes my led tv is only 40 inch so now i am using 4gb+ encodes, and maximum 1080p scene encodes. and other reason is all hdt encodes and even better p2p encodes are everywhere, so its seems time wasting to upload even fake there.

I'm pretty new to trackers but I havent had the need to cheat. I dont have a seedbox and I dont leave my computer on 24/7. But I get by with building ratio by downloading freeleech with autodl-irssi and qbittorrent-cli. I've been able to build a good buffer with this approach.

In FL, I was able to get 1 TB upload within the first month using autodl-irssi.

Here are the links for the tools I use.

https://github.com/arakasi72/rtinst
https://github.com/ludviglundgren/qbittorrent-cli

This is something I'm looking into but havent had the time to try it out.

https://github.com/mmgoodnow/cross-seed

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Originally Posted by dorarr

I dont have a seedbox and I dont leave my computer on 24/7. But I get by with building ratio by downloading freeleech with autodl-irssi and qbittorrent-cli. I've been able to build a good buffer with this approach.

In FL, I was able to get 1 TB upload within the first month using autodl-irssi.

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This works on trackers like FL, TL or IPT because there are tons of peers, tons of activity and generous freeleech, but it's not a catch-all method. On RED for example, there's very little freeleech (outside of personal tokens) and autosnatchers' competition for new torrents is fierce. Some talk about a 10 or 15 minute window after which grabbing a new torrent in hopes of getting upload is a fool's game, but it's more like 15 seconds. Autosnatching on a home connection would put you in the red very quickly unless you have gigabit fiber and an SSD... and even then, how do you win against those with multiple 10 Gbps boxes?

As for pre/cross-seeding, it is fairly effective and I used to do it a lot, to the extent of downloading from Usenet to seed on trackers, but gave up on it for two reasons. One, the more people cross-seed, the harder it is for those who don't to get upload. Sure, you can make up for it through bonus points, or by building buffer on other torrents, but that's counterintuitive... overseeding is a problem all private trackers face to some extent by design, and this makes it worse.

Two, if you have several trackers on which the same torrents can be seeded, that also means you have several trackers on which the same torrents can be downloaded. At which point I asked myself whether continuing to micromanage them "just in case one of them ever has something that the other five don't" was really worth it. It felt like a game with little reward and no end.

Just my opinion, of course, but one I don't see voiced very often.

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Originally Posted by anon

This works on trackers like FL, TL or IPT because there are tons of peers, tons of activity and generous freeleech, but it's not a catch-all method. On RED for example, there's very little freeleech (outside of personal tokens) and autosnatchers' competition for new torrents is fierce.

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That's very true. It's easy on the trackers you mentioned. On OPS, I actually had to work for the buffer by uploading albums. Luckily there is 1-2 people autosnatching stuff. It was time consuming and tedious to label and tag everything. But I finally made elite! MP3tag actions helped a lot after finding about it in OPS forums.

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Originally Posted by anon

the more people cross-seed, the harder it is for those who don't get upload. overseeding is a problem all private trackers face to some extent by design, and this makes it worse.

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I havent thought about it in that perspective. With all the freeleech, I dont actually need to cross-seed. This will save me some time too.

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Originally Posted by anon

Two, if you have several trackers on which the same torrents can be seeded, that also means you have several trackers on which the same torrents can be downloaded. At which point I asked myself whether continuing to micromanage them "just in case one of them ever has something that the other five don't" was really worth it. It felt like a game with little reward and no end.

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These are very valid points. I need to evaluate if I need to maintain multiple general trackers. FL is definitely a keeper.

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Originally Posted by dorarr

On OPS, I actually had to work for the buffer by uploading albums. Luckily there is 1-2 people autosnatching stuff. It was time consuming and tedious to label and tag everything. But I finally made elite! MP3tag actions helped a lot after finding about it in OPS forums.

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Good job :happy: All2Lame and CUETools are also worth looking at, especially considering all the upload-worthy stuff online that's only available as a continuous track, and can be turned into perfectly good FLAC and V0 torrents with little effort. CUETools in particular can actually do splitting, encoding and tagging all in one, which scales very well if you have lots of albums to upload.

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These are very valid points. I need to evaluate if I need to maintain multiple general trackers. FL is definitely a keeper.

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I have the same two as you, and they're more than enough. If you ever catch one of TL's open signups, there'd be no harm in checking it out, but I found it to be redundant. And unlike in the past, RuTracker doesn't need an account or buffer.

The others - TorrentDay, SceneTime, RevolutionTT, TorrentBytes, AlphaRatio, PreToMe, Zamunda, Linkomanija, nCore, etc. - are all good on their own right, just not really necessary if you're in the big ones.

Thanks anon and dorarr for your suggestions. I can agree with anon I am on almost 3 tb upload at FL and TL with real upload in around 6 months while even something like 1tb upload at GGn is a lot of work.

I come from ratio ghost and qbit to here, and seeing so many options available in something like BiglyBT discourages me to spare a lot more time into it, although I do understand a lot of what those settings mean, using qbit with ratio ghost has made me very lazy :tongue:

But since it is true many sites that do not enforce https yet and may do it in future, will make ratio ghost obsolete, so I should be prepared for it, till now RED, GGn, UHD, or even OPS dont do it so I have been comfortable with just ratioghost.

On RED atleast if I upload a FLAC I will get a few auto snatches but on OPS there are more than 50 of my FLAC uploads without even a single snatch, it is harder maintaining a buffer at OPS since.

I will give try to as many suggestions as I can from anons linked thread as well as dorarrs suggestions and work my way to a setup that I think will be ready for most trackers, thank you for all your references and suggestions.

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

using qbit with ratio ghost has made me very lazy

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Don't let that become your undoing...

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on OPS there are more than 50 of my FLAC uploads without even a single snatch, it is harder maintaining a buffer at OPS since.

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You can try filling requests (not all of them are impossible or even hard), and apparently they have a forum thread where you can ask others to snatch your uploads.

anon if you dont mind me asking, what did you mean by GGn having a generous bonus point system? I am seeding actual stuff something upwards of 1.3 tb and still all I generate is like 16 Gold an hour? Yeah i know it is better than FL but still I dont consider this something like really generous.

Really generous could be MAM or UHD BP systems, they are really quite better.

And if I may, from what I understand from your suggestion in the thread link and in general is BiglyBT mod is good enough without any other tools to accompany it, is it correct?

I am sorry if this is getting repetative, but working towards a good setup is a lot more work than I anticipated it to be.

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

what did you mean by GGn having a generous bonus point system? I am seeding actual stuff something upwards of 1.3 tb and still all I generate is like 16 Gold an hour? Yeah i know it is better than FL but still I dont consider this something like really generous.

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Indeed it's very likely that I was implicitly comparing it with FL or IPT, where most rewards take a long time to reach and you won't need them anymore by the time you make it :suicide: Still, permaseed everything and you'll get there eventually.

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from what I understand from your suggestion in the thread link and in general is BiglyBT mod is good enough without any other tools to accompany it, is it correct?

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In terms of functionality, then yes. But the fact mRatio, RatioMaster Plus, Serenity and others also have a dedicated user base prove there's a fairly situational and personal element to this decision. For example, BBTEM has relatively high hardware requirements and wouldn't be my first choice for fake-seeding a few thousand torrents to get bonus points (not the mod's fault, the base client is written in Java after all).

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anon if you dont mind me asking, what did you mean by GGn having a generous bonus point system? I am seeding actual stuff something upwards of 1.3 tb and still all I generate is like 16 Gold an hour? Yeah i know it is better than FL but still I dont consider this something like really generous.

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ggn has frequent global fl (once almost per 1 or 2 months), many ppl prefer to add games to favorites and wait until global fl comes to snatch. besides, they have a complex item system, which i heard can increase gold per hour.

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Originally Posted by anon

Indeed it's very likely that I was implicitly comparing it with FL or IPT, where most rewards take a long time to reach and you won't need them anymore by the time you make it :suicide: Still, permaseed everything and you'll get there eventually.

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Thanks for making it a little more clearer, I still was wondering if I am doing something wrong for the gold I was earning. I definitely will seed for as long as possible. even I want one of those dragons everybody else seems to be flying around :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by anon

In terms of functionality, then yes. But the fact mRatio, RatioMaster Plus, Serenity and others also have a dedicated user base prove there's a fairly situational and personal element to this decision. For example, BBTEM has relatively high hardware requirements and wouldn't be my first choice for fake-seeding a few thousand torrents to get bonus points (not the mod's fault, the base client is written in Java after all).

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I am looking to BP farm now as well, since I actually do that even with my current setup, good to know and be warned BBTEM is not very helpful there.

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Originally Posted by JohnareyouOK

ggn has frequent global fl (once almost per 1 or 2 months), many ppl prefer to add games to favorites and wait until global fl comes to snatch. besides, they have a complex item system, which i heard can increase gold per hour.

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You are correct, but to gain more gold you need to splurge a lot more of it and you can only gain "buffs" as they call it after you can do crafting which again is possible only at the userclass where the invite forum opens.

As for FL, I still didnt come across one, but when I do it could be very helpful, thanks for letting me know about that.

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Originally Posted by Rupel89yt

I am looking to BP farm now as well, since I actually do that even with my current setup, good to know and be warned BBTEM is not very helpful there.

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Unfortunately all programs (even legitimate clients) have a glass ceiling on this regard, BiglyBT's just happens to be lower than the others'. It's all about how crazy you go with the torrent count; the strategy itself can be effective with as little as 100.

Avoid exclusives, packs and torrents with few or no other seeders. It'll require some micromanagement, but you'll be glad you did.

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As for FL, I still didnt come across one, but when I do it could be very helpful, thanks for letting me know about that.

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A lot of new eroge are freeleech due to their funny titles and/or premises, or simply because they're nukige and everyone likes porn, so you could start there. (Those picks are hardly representative of the best the genre has to offer, but that's a different matter...)

It happened today, lets see how it helps with their snatches acheivement and some buffer hoarding

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