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ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 14:09
is out?
does not work?

shoulder
23.11.08, 14:18
It does work. :wink:

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 16:39
????? link?

shoulder
23.11.08, 16:41
Same as in the title.

I guess you missed the whole thing with the fake page, keyword, ... .
In short, your account is most likely disabled.

yoco
23.11.08, 17:40
I can confirm that it works. When were you the last time online? :biggrin:

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 19:15
with proxy It does work.

shoulder
23.11.08, 19:17
Do you get an 403 error without proxy?

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 21:44
no this page "your company name"

shoulder
23.11.08, 21:49
That's the right page, but I guess your account is gone.

Otherwise you would know what this page means. :wink:

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 22:47
this page "your company name" with proxy

shoulder
23.11.08, 22:51
Yes, this is BCG. :wink:

SealLion
23.11.08, 23:04
I'm not at BCG, but I think what Shoulder is try'in to tell you, m8 is that you need to input certain data into the field.

Some sites do this to better serve themselves in a protective environment.

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 23:09
nothing to do then?

SealLion
23.11.08, 23:11
nothing to do then?

no. I got noth'in to do. Thats why I"m here. HAAA!!!:biggrin:

ciccioqwerty
23.11.08, 23:14
thanks anyway:frown:

SealLion
23.11.08, 23:21
sorry Ciccy. But I didn't mean to be a smart-ass.

But obviously, you need to know what sort of info to place into that field.

check some of your email accounts for emails from BCG to see what, if any, info they sent you re: condition of new sign in procedures and its relation to current page that you get.

shoulder
23.11.08, 23:24
There was no email sent.

You had to generate that code in your usercp and since he didn't know about the whole thing, he most likely didn't generate one.

SealLion
24.11.08, 00:03
There was no email sent.

You had to generate that code in your usercp and since he didn't know about the whole thing, he most likely didn't generate one.

wEll, ciccy, my friend. There you go. I guess your outta luck, then.

Grab a cup o' mocha and have a laid back afternoon like me and forget about the whole thing. There's nothing better than a fresh start.

don't let stuff like that ruin your day. Hell. Its only the internet. Don't let it run your life.

Life is more than just some tracker.


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CindyVer
24.11.08, 10:19
The account is lost.

A lot of people have the same problem.

yoco
24.11.08, 13:31
And to think I generated the keyword without even reading that info, BCG angel must watch over me :tongue: :biggrin:

Lokare
26.11.08, 21:27
So does anybody knows if it's possible to go scot-free easily on BCG?

anon
26.11.08, 22:07
BCG doesn't care too much about your individual torrents' ratio (I once faked a 3:1 ratio in a torrent without leechers by accident and I wasn't banned :tongue:) - just make sure you keep your global one to something that doesn't draw too much attention.

shoulder
26.11.08, 22:11
But you should have at least a 0.8 ratio on every torrent if I remember right.

Otherwise you'll get H'n'R Points which can even cause an user class demotion. :wink:

anon
26.11.08, 22:25
Yes, that's correct shoulder. :top:

I meant that they don't care in the sense of that your per-torrent ratio can be huge as long as your global one doesn't raise too much suspicion, but it is indeed important that you "seed" every torrent to a good ratio.

shoulder
26.11.08, 22:29
Or you use their awesome Seed Point System which gives every user the chance to stay alive.

One of the tracker I don't cheat on. :top:

yoco
27.11.08, 10:09
Or you use their awesome Seed Point System which gives every user the chance to stay alive.

One of the tracker I don't cheat on. :top:
I don't get this Seed Point System. I'm Super Power User, and I always seed.

anon
27.11.08, 12:06
I don't get this Seed Point System.

It allows you to keep a good ratio even if there are very few (20:1 seed/peer ratio) or no leechers to upload to, by just leaving the torrent seeding for 72h (for 500MB+ torrents) or 24h (torrents less than 500MB in size) and complying with the other conditions.

ciccioqwerty
27.11.08, 13:39
delete:frown:
is blocked by my ISP

Lokare
28.11.08, 08:07
Yes, that's correct shoulder. :top:

I meant that they don't care in the sense of that your per-torrent ratio can be huge as long as your global one doesn't raise too much suspicion, but it is indeed important that you "seed" every torrent to a good ratio.

Alright, that sounds fair. Thank you!

I was wondering if you would still get the same amount of SP if you do traffic shaping?

anon
28.11.08, 16:14
I was wondering if you would still get the same amount of SP if you do traffic shaping?

What do you mean with "traffic shaping"? Capping your upload speed?

These are the necessary conditions to get SP:

You must:

have downloaded 100% of the torrent,
have a ratio smaller than 1.000 on it,
not be its uploader,
be connected to and active on it,
have had it running at least 36h if it's size is smaller than 500MB, or 72h if it's bigger than that.


The torrent must have a 20:1 seed/peer ratio, or 0 leechers:

X seeds with 0 downloaders = Seed Points
20 seeds with 1 downloader = Seed Points
40 seeds with 2 downloaders = Seed Points
60 seeds with 3 downloaders = Seed Points
and so forth

Only 2 of your running torrents will earn SP - the ones with the lowest ratio.

A torrent's SP "cost" varies according its size. The cost increases by 1p for every 100MB of data the torrent has, but the minimal cost is always 10 SP:

1GB or less = 10 points
2GB torrent = 20 points
3GB torrent = 30 points
3.5GB torrent = 35 points

Should you upload while accumulating SP, the system will lower the torrent's cost according how much you've uploaded.

If you're connectable, you'll gain 0.25p every 15 minutes (1p/hour). If you're not, you'll gain 0.0625p every 15 minutes (0.25p/hour).

[FONT="Times New Roman"]► For short, I guess you'll always earn SP as long as you comply with all the necessary conditions. The easiest way to know this is to go to your profile and click "SP Overview". You'll see a list like this:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9788/spovermj6.jpg

In this case, the first torrent can't accumulate SP because its ratio is Inf. (>1.000). The second one also can't, because its seed/peer ratio (9.190:1) is smaller than 20:1, and it hasn't been seeded for the necessary amount of time.

The third one can accumulate SP (and is doing so) because it complies with all the conditions, and the fourth one can't because it's ratio is already bigger than 1.000.

Aurion
29.11.08, 17:55
Personally I didn't efficiently use that system still,but I guess It's a good tool to get your account well secured against any dangerous warnings/banning threats,nice trip BCG !

Lokare
30.11.08, 06:13
That's a very thorough explanation of the SP from you, I've thanked you for your kind helps.

Yup, capping your upload speed. I've seen the requirements to get SP already too.
I also know of the overview of the torrents to see your SP and such, but thanks for telling me that too.

I guess I won't try cheating since BCG can be considered easy to seed on if you've got the time.

For the "have had it running at least 36h if it's size is smaller than 500MB, or 72h if it's bigger than that." Is it the total time of the torrent seeding or the time it has started to seed if it has been stopped before?

poopsalot
30.11.08, 07:22
That's a very thorough explanation of the SP from you, I've thanked you for your kind helps.

Yup, capping your upload speed. I've seen the requirements to get SP already too.
I also know of the overview of the torrents to see your SP and such, but thanks for telling me that too.

I guess I won't try cheating since BCG can be considered easy to seed on if you've got the time.

For the "have had it running at least 36h if it's size is smaller than 500MB, or 72h if it's bigger than that." Is it the total time of the torrent seeding or the time it has started to seed if it has been stopped before?

Total seeding time, that's why I like BCG ^^

darkkcg
30.11.08, 09:18
yeh they changed the old page, hope you got in the new one ;)

yoco
30.11.08, 15:28
I downloaded a 96mb torrent and there is no leechers. I'm seeding for almost 2 days now.
http://shrani.si/f/13/Y8/3OGxld85/bcg.png

So what do I gain with these SP? I thought that this will get my torrent ratio up, since there are no peers.

shoulder
30.11.08, 15:36
When your SP meets your cost you will get a 1:1 file ratio on that torrent. :wink:

http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=3325

anon
30.11.08, 16:57
@GShow: it cleared some things for me too, after rereading it :biggrin:

If it's possible for you to leave your client seeding for the necessary amount of time to start earning SP, I strongly recommend you do. It's a risk-free way to have a good ratio.

And, as poopsalot said, it's the total amount of time you've left your torrent seeding.

@yoco: you have 8.75 SP, and that torrent's "cost" is 10p. When you get the 1.25p that are needed for the SP amount to equal the cost, you'll automatically gain a 1:1 ratio on that torrent.

jolas
30.11.08, 21:39
bcg is probably the most hard to understand rule book out there.

still sp is a good thing :)

yoco
01.12.08, 11:33
@yoco: you have 8.75 SP, and that torrent's "cost" is 10p. When you get the 1.25p that are needed for the SP amount to equal the cost, you'll automatically gain a 1:1 ratio on that torrent.
Yea I got to 1:1. Can it go higher or is it just 1:1?

anon
01.12.08, 12:42
Can it go higher or is it just 1:1?

No, the biggest ratio you can "buy" with SP is 1.000.

Also, when you get the needed amount of SP, the difference in the amount you've downloaded minus the amount you've uploaded will be added to your global ratio.

yoco
08.12.08, 12:47
I forgot to ask one more thing about Seed Point. What happens when I allready got my ratio over 1.1 with seeding and then seed point starts? Does it increase my ratio?

anon
08.12.08, 16:14
If a torrent's ratio was already 1.000 or higher, it won't accumulate SP.

yoco
08.12.08, 16:45
So SP doesn't count for users that got their ratio with seeding?

anon
08.12.08, 16:48
Correct. If you had already managed to get a 1:1 ratio or higher on a torrent by just uploading, that torrent won't earn SP:


Torrent Ratio shows the member what that particular torrent's ratio has reached. Remember, only ratios less then 1.0 will qualify for Seed Points.

yoco
08.12.08, 17:24
Do you maybe know if they have a movie tracker? I remember that there was a poll some time ago about if they should do it.

anon
08.12.08, 17:26
Do you maybe know if they have a movie tracker?

As far as I know they don't - never saw the poll you mentioned, though.

shoulder
08.12.08, 17:30
They asked what kind of tracker they should make IF they're ever going to make a BCG sister site. :wink:

yoco
08.12.08, 17:37
And "movie" won, right?

shoulder
08.12.08, 17:47
I don't know, I voted for 0 day. :tongue:

Aurion
09.12.08, 15:30
they've changed to several polls right after issuing that poll,but I guess they're we just scanning for opinions,that's all ! I don't believe that stoi would ever think for another bigger responsibility,that's if failed would greatly affect BCG's reputation

ciccioqwerty
11.12.08, 10:10
:tongue:
and now 'returned to work

anon
11.12.08, 15:46
and now 'returned to work

Did you get another BCG account or..?

Sometimes the fake page appears even if you have cookies from the previous day's session, and forces you to re-login :tongue:

ciccioqwerty
11.12.08, 16:32
I did not read well the procedure

anon
11.12.08, 16:34
The one to generate your passkey?

Or did you generate one, but didn't know how to use it at the login page until now..?

ciccioqwerty
11.12.08, 16:36
exact, I read evil

yoco
11.12.08, 17:48
Twice happened to me, that fake site opens and scared the shit out of me, when my keyword didn't work, I pasted instead of write it manualy :biggrin:

anon
11.12.08, 17:50
Sometimes it also happens that a whole new copy of the fake page is appended at the bottom, instead of just the login boxes. You need to have HTTP referers enabled for it to work. Edit: see post #61

Aurion
18.12.08, 20:31
@anon: Yeah I had same issues some times back then,but you know a quick refresh solves it all!

anon
18.12.08, 20:41
Also, if you have cookies from a previous BCG session, and after opening your browser to enter the tracker you see the fake page, clear your cookies before proceeding - else, you'll get "error #2" 90% of the time.

shoulder
18.12.08, 21:20
You need to have HTTP referers enabled for it to work.
No, you don't.
For me logging in does even work without referers.

http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=3343

anon
18.12.08, 21:22
Not with Opera - here, at least.

Edit: after a quick test, it seems that it does work without referers as you said - but I hadn't updated to Opera 9.62 when I made that post. Maybe the new version solved this - wish it had also fixed the session problems with our board, though. :tongue:

mat
20.12.08, 19:54
hello

is it safe to cheat on black cats with shu mode??

merry christmas

anon
20.12.08, 19:56
It is, as with every tracker - just be sensible, don't overfake, and keep a non attention-drawing global ratio. Anyway, with their awesome Seed Points system, you can get a 1:1 ratio on every torrent by just leaving your client open and nothing else. :wink:

yoco
23.12.08, 09:52
The site won't open today. Anyone else having same problem?

shoulder
23.12.08, 12:02
Working fine for me. :wink2:

yoco
23.12.08, 14:11
Works for me too now :biggrin:

anon
23.12.08, 16:16
Same here, it works fine. Guess it was a temporary failure.

ciccioqwerty
23.12.08, 22:52
we need to do the usual procedure, but it works

Aurion
24.12.08, 02:31
It's working here good too...why some of you guys can't load the cloaked page properly ?!

anon
24.12.08, 16:33
why some of you guys can't load the cloaked page properly ?!

That is the question. :tongue:

Aurion
25.12.08, 03:50
lol nah,I was serious,why do they get troubles connecting ? I mean even if that cloaked page hosted in a country located in a far place than most of those users live,that doesn't make it jam loading...

shoulder
25.12.08, 17:46
That day the page was down because of backups if I'm not mistaken. :wink2:

anon
25.12.08, 20:01
I mean even if that cloaked page hosted in a country located in a far place than most of those users live,that doesn't make it jam loading...

It's like asking why HTML pages look differently in different browsers/OSes. Every system is a world and there are always multiple factors that can cause the same error. It could be a server failure, like the case shoulder mentioned. NoScript/BlockIt blocking the JS code that loads the login boxes after the keyword is typed; your firewall not letting them be transferred for some reason, or, if you use one, a local proxy like Privoxy/Polipo/etc. interfering... that's how computing is :tongue:

vannelli87
28.12.08, 16:20
someone tried to use on mtratio BCG, and recommended that speed?

anon
28.12.08, 16:40
I haven't tried mRatio, but the RatioMaster works at BCG. :biggrin:

Aurion
29.12.08, 01:22
It's like asking why HTML pages look differently in different browsers/OSes. Every system is a world and there are always multiple factors that can cause the same error. It could be a server failure, like the case shoulder mentioned. NoScript/BlockIt blocking the JS code that loads the login boxes after the keyword is typed; your firewall not letting them be transferred for some reason, or, if you use one, a local proxy like Privoxy/Polipo/etc. interfering... that's how computing is :tongue:

Yeah,you're right,that what I thought of lol :tongue: that's why those complicated implementations have issues that drive most users crazy some times...

taha4u
29.12.08, 10:41
I can confirm that it works

shoulder
29.12.08, 15:58
I can confirm that it works
At this moment it's totally out of question that the site is working.