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Grambo
16.11.08, 03:46
Do you now of an Emule-mod which does not reveal your IP. like Utraitor does
Preferably with RSA-switch.

i think this site rules.:biggrin:

Renk
16.11.08, 13:59
Do you now of an Emule-mod which does not reveal your IP. like Utraitor does
Preferably with RSA-switch.

I would like to know and try this sort of mod, but I don't understand how it could work. Each source has to know your IP to send the chunks you are waiting for.

Some networks are "anonymous" (e.g. Mute, Stealthnet, Gnunet), in witch not your IP but an ID propagates through the network, but they are very slow, and at least your neighbours have to know your real IP (or more exactly the association between your ID and your IP).

hitman
16.11.08, 17:13
wrong forum section ----------->moved

anon
16.11.08, 20:31
Do you now of an Emule-mod which does not reveal your IP. like Utraitor does
Preferably with RSA-switch.

It's impossible not to reveal your IP if a reply is required. The most you can do is using iMule, which tunnels your eD2K traffic through the I2P network, to stay anonymous and minimize the amount of bad nodes that can see your real IP, but it's very slow like Renk said.

Also, the uTraitor stealth mod does show your IP address (both to tracker and peers) - you're just not shown in the peerlist when using it, that's all.

Regarding the RSA switch, the latest eMule SBI Leecher version has that feature, whose interval you can change manually directly from the UI. :top:

Grambo
16.11.08, 23:57
thanks for the reply.:smile:

I have tried imule. i don't mind it being slow. the problem is: to few files available.:frown:

"Also, the uTraitor stealth mod does show your IP address (both to tracker and peers) - you're just not shown in the peerlist when using it, that's all."

that would help . it is much better than beeing shown everywhere. does an emule-mod do that?


"Regarding the RSA switch, the latest eMule SBI Leecher version has that feature, whose interval you can change manually directly from the UI."

This mod seems to be the best, but you have so many and some only have description in german. it would also help is every mod had an explanation in english.
i also would like to know if there is an easy ip-switcher since i'm totally new to this

anon
17.11.08, 12:17
thanks for the reply.:smile:

I have tried imule. i don't mind it being slow. the problem is: to few files available.:frown:

That's strange, since apart from routing your traffic through I2P iMule otherwise connects to the same eD2K network the official eMule uses, and the same variety of files should be available. Are your server and Kad node lists up-to-date? You can get new ones here:

server.met (http://www.server-met.de/)
nodes.dat (http://www.nodes-dat.com/)



"Also, the uTraitor stealth mod does show your IP address (both to tracker and peers) - you're just not shown in the peerlist when using it, that's all."

that would help . it is much better than beeing shown everywhere. does an emule-mod do that?

Since BitTorrent and eD2K are completely different protocols there is no "stealth" mod as there's no "tracker" eMule reports things to - you can somehow be stealthy by not sharing anything, but you (and your IP) can still be seen downloading.


"Regarding the RSA switch, the latest eMule SBI Leecher version has that feature, whose interval you can change manually directly from the UI."

This mod seems to be the best, but you have so many and some only have description in german. it would also help is every mod had an explanation in english.
i also would like to know if there is an easy ip-switcher since i'm totally new to this

There is an english explanation - it's the blue text just below every german feature description.

Regarding an IP-switcher, you could either flip your MAC's last byte (but this isn't automated as you need to hard-reboot your modem after that), or use my IP switching script (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f59/download-rapidshare-com-no-waittime-991/index2.html#post23909) if you're not behind a router. :top:

Grambo
17.11.08, 15:08
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=anon;54988]That's strange, since apart from routing your traffic through I2P iMule otherwise connects to the same eD2K network the official eMule uses, and the same variety of files should be available. Are your server and Kad node lists up-to-date? You can get new ones here
If I understood the i2p-furum correctly, imule only connects to other imules.
It can't connect to servers (at least not up to V1.25)
My nodes were fresh when i tried imule. OI only got 10 connections so there was not a big selection.



Since BitTorrent and eD2K are completely different protocols there is no "stealth" mod as there's no "tracker" eMule reports things to - you can somehow be stealthy by not sharing anything, but you (and your IP) can still be seen downloading.
Isn't servers doing about the same as trackers?:confused:


Regarding an IP-switcher, you could either flip your MAC's last byte (but this isn't automated as you need to hard-reboot your modem after that), or use my IP switching script (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f59/download-rapidshare-com-no-waittime-991/index2.html#post23909) if you're not behind a router.
I'm using a router. How do you flip the last MAC-byte?

anon
17.11.08, 16:25
If I understood the i2p-furum correctly, imule only connects to other imules.
It can't connect to servers (at least not up to V1.25)

I didn't know this - I have always thought iMule could connect to other "normal" clients. But as you can't, the variety of files you can find severely decreases :frown:
Regarding servers, I think I did know this, but was in a rush when writing my last post so I forgot. :smile:


My nodes were fresh when i tried imule. OI only got 10 connections so there was not a big selection.

Just in case, here's a list of some other nodes.dat-updating sites:

http://www.imule.i2p/nodes.dat
http://imulesweed.i2p/nodes.dat
http://echelon.i2p/imule/nodes.dat
But note the .i2p's - this means you have to be connected to the I2P network to be able to download the files.


Isn't servers doing about the same as trackers?:confused:

They roughly play a similar role, but you can't really compare the eD2K network with the BitTorrent protocol - servers have no peerlist unlike the one trackers can have (at least not a public one), for example.

If you're concerned about this you can simply not connect to servers at all.

Or to keep things simple, you can also try using an eMule leecher mod, enabling all no-shares, and either sign-up for a free Relakks VPN trial (https://www.relakks.com/register.php?cid=gb) (where you can just re-register with another user and pass after it expires), or register at Peer2Me (http://www.peer2me.com/), download their app, then discard it and use the L2TP VPN connection it creates, just like Renk mentioned in this thread (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f44/emule-0-49b-zz-rs-v1-6-share-levels-6742/index2.html). :biggrin:


I'm using a router. How do you flip the last MAC-byte?

The MAC-changing trick is to be done on your network card when you have a direct connection - I don't know too much about routers so I couldn't tell whether it'd work or not, but perhaps you can get a working Reconnect.bat for your model at our One-Click Hoster section.

Or maybe my script works for you even though it often doesn't work behind a router - it did for DarthDildo. You don't lose anything trying :tongue:

Go to this post (http://www.sb-innovation.de/39525-post8.html) and download the attachment.

...there can be trouble if your connection's name has special characters like á é í, etc. in it: go to "Network Connections" and change it to something simple like "Internet", "123", etc. There shouldn't be any trouble with spaces, so you can use them.
Actually, to make changing your IP easier, I have coded a small frontend to the .bat: just type your connection's name, hit "Run", and it takes care of everything. It's attached (and the needed .bat file provided, too), just extract Frontend.zip somewhere and run IP Switch Frontend.exe.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3235/frontendgy3.gif

Grambo
17.11.08, 23:14
if you're concerned about this you can simply not connect to servers at all.
I did this using emule.


Or to keep things simple, you can also try using an eMule leecher mod, enabling all no-shares, and either sign-up for a free Relakks VPN trial (https://www.relakks.com/register.php?cid=gb) (where you can just re-register with another user and pass after it expires), or register at Peer2Me (http://www.peer2me.com/), download their app, then discard it and use the L2TP VPN connection it creates, just like Renk mentioned in this thread (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f44/emule-0-49b-zz-rs-v1-6-share-levels-6742/index2.html). :biggrin:
I'll try the sbi leechermod like you said. It seems to be the safest.
The services are interesting. I'll see if i can get either one to work. Maybe they will work with bittorrent to. The ones I tried before didn't:frown:


The MAC-changing trick is to be done on your network card when you have a direct connection - I don't know too much about routers so I couldn't tell whether it'd work or not, but perhaps you can get a working Reconnect.bat for your model at our One-Click Hoster section.

Or maybe my script works for you even though it often doesn't work behind a router - it did for DarthDildo. You don't lose anything trying :tongue:

If something goes wrong. Can it revert back the I? I just wonder since the other post mentions that if you have a ststic IP it will close the
connection.
If the services work, it should be safe enough. Otherwise i'll try your script .

Thanks alot for taking the time to answer my posts.:klatsch_3:
I'm sorry I posted the thread in the wrong section.:redface:

anon
17.11.08, 23:18
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I'll try the sbi leechermod like you said. It seems to be the safest.
The services are interesting. I'll see if i can get either one to work. Maybe they will work with bittorrent to. The ones I tried before didn't:frown:

It is the safest indeed :wink:

And I can assure you the VPNs I've listed also work perfectly with BitTorrent and all other P2P programs. :top: At least Relakks does - never got to test Peer2Me because of the IPSEC Services issue...


Thanks alot for taking the time to answer my posts.:klatsch_3:
I'm sorry I posted the thread in the wrong section.:redface:

No problem & it's in the correct section :biggrin:

Grambo
17.11.08, 23:52
A very fast reply.

That about me having a static IP isn't a problem for your script?

anon
18.11.08, 12:50
That about me having a static IP isn't a problem for your script?

It relies on you having a dynamic one to get your DHCP server to assign you a different address. If you have an static IP it may or may not work...

Grambo
19.11.08, 03:48
Vista is having trouble connecting to VPNs. On Relakks site it is instructions how to correct them, but the instructions don't work. I got error 0x80070005. Its a code for not having the rights (i think).
That is very strange since I was admin when trying that.:frown:

I don't know if this is the cause of connection failure, I don't get any error msg.

anon
19.11.08, 18:03
Vista is having trouble connecting to VPNs. On Relakks site it is instructions how to correct them, but the instructions don't work. I got error 0x80070005. Its a code for not having the rights (i think).

I googled this code, and found someone having the same error message. Disabling Norton's real-time scanner worked for him. As you've stated you have Norton 360, Avira and avast! installed in the eMule thread, perhaps you can try uninstalling Norton and temporarily disabling the last two. You also need to have port 1723 open.

Renk
20.11.08, 01:05
thanks for the reply.:smile:

I have tried imule. i don't mind it being slow. the problem is: to few files available.:frown:


And there are too few files available because the network is to slow.:frown:

if you like i2p network, you could also consider Azureus, in witch a plugin allows connection to this network.

But as with imule, there are very few files, this is very slow, and you can connect only to clients that are in the i2p network too.

I think that the most crowded anonymous networks are Mute and Stealthnet. If
you try Mute, use Kommute client (kommute allows multisourcing, what Mute client does not).


You could also consider VPN usage.. And ask Anon how exactly to tunnel Ultrasurf through FreeGate trough Putty through Tor Trough VPN (I'm interested, too :biggrin: )






This mod seems to be the best, but you have so many and some only have description in german. it would also help is every mod had an explanation in english.
i also would like to know if there is an easy ip-switcher since i'm totally new to this

I agree. And my pain sometimes is very great, when I try to understand certain "only in german" explanations. But sb-innovation.de is a german site. It's normal that most posts and tuts will be written in this language.

Grambo
20.11.08, 13:48
I think that the most crowded anonymous networks are Mute and Stealthnet. If you try Mute, use Kommute client (kommute allows multisourcing, what Mute client does not).
Thanks for the advice. I dl Kommute right now. Then lets se how it works.:smile:


You could also consider VPN usage.. And ask Anon how exactly to tunnel Ultrasurf through FreeGate trough Putty through Tor Trough VPN (I'm interested, too :biggrin: )
Isn't that a big overkill?:biggrin: Does one need that many proxies?

And with VPN. I still have probs connecting to Relakks. That is in spite of solving the errorcode. I did what Relakks says on their installation page, but still no connection.:baeh:



I agree. And my pain sometimes is very great, when I try to understand certain "only in german" explanations. But sb-innovation.de is a german site. It's normal that most posts and tuts will be written in this language.
I suppose. It still is hard not knowing important stuff.

anon
20.11.08, 19:26
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... And ask Anon how exactly to tunnel Ultrasurf through FreeGate trough Putty through Tor Trough VPN (I'm interested, too :biggrin: )

It seems that Ultrasurf uses some PuTTY code - if you run it a PUTTY.RND file will be created at %userprofile%.

So if we take PuTTY apart from that chain, you should first connect to your VPN. Run Ultrasurf, go to Options -> Proxy Settings -> Manual Proxy Setting. Set the host to 127.0.0.1, and port to 8580. Then run Freegate, click on "Proxy Settings", and tick the second radio button. Set the host to 127.0.0.1, and the port to the one the proxy you're using (Privoxy, Polipo, etc.) to contact Tor uses. (make sure that proxy is tunneling everything going through it to Tor from the beginning - set it as your web browser's HTTP proxy and load cmyip.com before starting) Now close both US and FG. Open FG first, and then US. Set all applications whose network traffic you need to go through this whole chain to use Ultrasurf's IP and port.

You should now be tunneling Ultrasurf through Freegate through Tor through VPN - tested by me :wink:


Thanks for the advice. I dl Kommute right now. Then lets se how it works.:smile:

Another improved MUTE client is MFC-MUTE, available at Sourceforge. I don't know if it supports swarming (which is a great advantage) like Kommute, but maybe you want to check it out. :smile: There's also a MUTE giFT plugin under development. This would allow us to connect to five different networks at the same time when it's done :klatsch_3:


Isn't that a big overkill?:biggrin: Does one need that many proxies?

You aren't paranoid when you know they're out to get you :wink:


And with VPN. I still have probs connecting to Relakks. That is in spite of solving the errorcode. I did what Relakks says on their installation page, but still no connection.:baeh:

Perhaps you can try Peer2Me instead - it's a L2TP VPN, so its encryption is more secure, and according Renk there aren't as much disconnects as with Relakks.

vDD+wR
20.11.08, 20:00
[FONT="Arial Black"]Important Note to the Relakks service

As I have searched through the internet for relakks, I have found an interesting German site that tested relakks and came to a devestating conclusion: The first thing bugging about the service is that the company behind the service is Hem - www.tryggare.net (http://www.tryggare.net/) who are having other services as well, which are quite alarming! (such as a service where you're able to browse through pictures of security cameras via webinterface or even via mobile phone on the go...)
Another point the German site stated is that Sweden belongs to the European Union which means that they have to have certain policies passed that forces any companies, located in Sweden, have to save logfiles. (So, there's a high chance that this could be the case at Relakks too...)
A further minus point for Sweden would be that there was a news published about a law whether is should be allowed for intelligence services to read every eMail that's coming into and "leaving" Sweden.

Source was: TP: Anonym per VPN im Ausland: Relakks (http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/25/25116/1.html)

anon
20.11.08, 20:08
@Grambo: taking in consideration what vDD+wR has just posted, I would now definitely recommend you stop attempting trying to make Relakks work, and use Peer2Me instead. As it seems you need a VPN service for security reasons, we could even say it was actually helpful that you couldn't get Relakks working under Vista... :tongue:

Grambo
21.11.08, 04:24
@Grambo: taking in consideration what vDD+wR has just posted, I would now definitely recommend you stop attempting trying to make Relakks work, and use Peer2Me instead. As it seems you need a VPN service for security reasons, we could even say it was actually helpful that you couldn't get Relakks working under Vista... :tongue:
I did try peer2me first, but a got a strange error when registering.
'This is what google translator said: You can not use special letters, agrave 3.:confused:

Agrave is a french word. I can't get it translated. Then I don't know what's wrong.:mad:
I'll wait until that plugin is finished. With connection to five networks there should be a lot more files.:smile:

vdd+wr: That was interesting. I for sure won't use me Relakks acount.

Renk: I did try it, but didn't find anything good.

anon
21.11.08, 22:20
I did try peer2me first, but a got a strange error when registering.
'This is what google translator said: You can not use special letters, agrave 3.:confused:

Agrave is a french word. I can't get it translated. Then I don't know what's wrong.:mad:

No idea of what it means, either. Are you sure your username and password don't contain any "fancy" characters? Mine have just letters and numbers. I've also used a GuerrillaMail e-mail address to register.

Maybe you find this (http://wippien.com/) interesting - it seems to be a F2F filesharing VPN just like Peer2Me; you need a Jabber account to be able to log in to it. It's possible to separate the actual VPN connection from the Wippien instant messaging program using miniVPN (http://wippien.com/minivpn.php)...


I'll wait until that plugin is finished. With connection to five networks there should be a lot more files.:smile:
...

If the plugin is finished and a Windows version is made, you should be able to combine it with KCeasy (http://www.kceasy.com/) to connect to Ares, Gnutella, FastTrack, OpenFT, and MUTE. But FT is definitely a risk with all those fake files and spynodes :tongue:


Renk: I did try it, but didn't find anything good.

Yes, that's the problem with most anonymous networks... not too much content :frown:

Grambo
23.11.08, 04:10
Maybe you find this (http://wippien.com/) interesting - it seems to be a F2F filesharing VPN just like Peer2Me; you need a Jabber account to be able to log in to it. It's possible to separate the actual VPN connection from the Wippien instant messaging program using miniVPN (http://wippien.com/minivpn.php)...
Thanks for the tip. I got miniVPN running.
How do I now traffic is going through wippien?

The proxy chain almost works. Only US don't connect.


If the plugin is finished and a Windows version is made, you should be able to combine it with KCeasy (http://www.kceasy.com/) to connect to Ares, Gnutella, FastTrack, OpenFT, and MUTE. But FT is definitely a risk with all those fake files and spynodes :tongue:
I think Gnutella is worse. I tried Frostwire before, and every file I tried to dl was a virus, trojan etc.


Yes, that's the problem with most anonymous networks... not too much content :frown:
I know.:smile: that's a shame.

anon
23.11.08, 23:42
Thanks for the tip. I got miniVPN running.
How do I now traffic is going through wippien?

That's awesome! I'll try it too once I get Internet working at home. Seems some idiot wanted to get free CATV with my line, but as the wire only transports the Internet signal and not the television one, he left the wire cut and went away. And in the meantime I have to wait until the cable guy comes fixing it, which will happen tomorrow -_-

cmyip.com should see Wippien's IP if everything's working correctly.


The proxy chain almost works. Only US don't connect.

Make sure FG is running and that you've set Ultrasurf's proxy to 127.0.0.1, port 8580.


I think Gnutella is worse. I tried Frostwire before, and every file I tried to dl was a virus, trojan etc.

Yes, I recommend you don't download but just MP3s from the Gnutella network. Even so, be careful with those whose filename is exactly your search query, and size around 4MB.

rom08
24.11.08, 04:01
@ grambo: I'm french and I assure you that "agrave" is not a french one.If you post the entire sentence in french here maybe I can translate it for you:wink:

Grambo
24.11.08, 04:48
@ grambo: I'm french and I assure you that "agrave" is not a french one.If you post the entire sentence in french here maybe I can translate it for you:wink: Google couldn't find thatr word in any language I tested.

Here it is: Le nom d'utilisateur ne peut pas contenir de caractères spéciaux et sa taille doit être supérieure agrave; 3 caractères. :confused:

But now I use wippien instead.

@Anon: When running MiniVPN, FG and US it's US IP that's seen.
If only MiniVPN, my own IP is seen.
I think Wippien is only for friend to friend.