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    Wer versucht zu rennen, bevor er laufen kann, kommt meistens zu Fall



    stop animal experiments, take child molesters - they like pain!


    Besser man bereut was man getan hat, anstatt zu bereuen das man es unterlassen hat
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    Text der Petition

    Wir fordern, daß der Deutsche Bundestag die Änderung des Telemediengesetzes nach dem Gesetzentwurf des Bundeskabinetts vom 22.4.09 ablehnt. Wir halten das geplante Vorgehen, Internetseiten vom BKA indizieren & von den Providern sperren zu lassen, für undurchsichtig & unkontrollierbar, da die "Sperrlisten" weder einsehbar sind noch genau festgelegt ist, nach welchen Kriterien Webseiten auf die Liste gesetzt werden. Wir sehen darin eine Gefährdung des Grundrechtes auf Informationsfreiheit.

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    Das vornehmliche Ziel – Kinder zu schützen und sowohl ihren Mißbrauch, als auch die Verbreitung von Kinderpornografie, zu verhindern stellen wir dabei absolut nicht in Frage – im Gegenteil, es ist in unser aller Interesse. Dass die im Vorhaben vorgesehenen Maßnahmen dafür denkbar ungeeignet sind, wurde an vielen Stellen offengelegt und von Experten aus den unterschiedlichsten Bereichen mehrfach bestätigt. Eine Sperrung von Internetseiten hat so gut wie keinen nachweisbaren Einfluß auf die körperliche und seelische Unversehrtheit mißbrauchter Kinder.

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    a few things aren't quite clear:

    if a web site is indicated by BKA, they should investigate and take it offline with a court order, then question/prosecute the owners of the site - whats the point to block the site when it can be taken offline? Furthermore, others on the internet will still be able to see the site's contents so the problem isn't really solved

    also the last line of the text forgot to mention children in general, but lets not split hairs

    btw. this petition is meant for german citizens only
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    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    . . . they should investigate and take it offline with a court order, then question/prosecute the owners of the site
    How should they do that if the owner is living in - let's say - Japan? Or Iraq?
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    The fact is, that they could.
    A group of activists in sweeden took a part of the local Blocklist there and just abused about 100 random sites to their webhosters..
    (As i remember) About 80 Were took offline within one week, 15 were offline at the time the abuse reached the hosters and the other ones didn't even contain child porn. Only one Site stayed online. Out of about 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    . . . (As i remember) About 80 Were took offline within one week . . .
    And went online again on another server in another country within a couple of days . . .

    As long as you don't get the owners actions like those won't change anything.
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    As long as you don't get the owners actions like those won't change anything.
    you do realize that no law is 100% efficient no matter how well it is written or executed, the idea is to try to perfect it to a point where criminal activities (or their results) can be minimized to an acceptable percentage, therefore making them less harmful/widespread
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