"I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
Of course, but you can't come out of nowhere to announce having finished a 16GB pack, for example. Faking all the &downloaded= amounts that are behind is needed...
"I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
Yeah, I just cheat with scene releases on What.CD, explains my 100+ gb buffer ;>
it's left behind,but to send just a small report to the tracker telling it that this file has been completed downloading doesn't got nothing to do with what is left behind ??!! I mean all we have to do is just fake or implement when to send completed download/upload reports & their announcements to trackers...so that when I chose such an option I just click on a Button like "Update Tracker" or "Fake report" so that without even start downloading the file,the report get sent telling the tracker that I finished downloading this file,and I will get to the seeding swarm right away...I think technically that can be done one way or another...
but it wouldnt make sense if you would send it first... on the contrary it would be dangerous too, cause you havent uploaded a byte so far but report to the tracker that youve completed it... does this makes sense?Originally Posted by Aurion
what i do in whatcd and waffles:
leech a huge pack download about 40% a little more a little less, than i put the download speed at 1 or 4kbs, and i stick the fake upload around 40bks, somethimes i use swarn speeds other i dont even bother doing that.
dont upload 100% finish torrents!! because of the security scripts on whatcd!! only fake upload whille downloading this is very important!
and dont use crazy upload speeds!
Well,I mean by sending "download completed" report is that when you do start downloading a file,you already wait till that file really gets completed then leaves it in the seed swarm hoping anyone would connect to you & recieves your seed (I'm talking normal torrenting without using any fakers)...so the important point that you wait till you have 100% downloaded the whole torrent files,right ? so I'm saying why not some one just code a function that when used sends the "download completed" report to the tracker as if I already finished downloading,then leaves the file set on certain fake seeding settings so that you most likely fake seed all the time + fake report the download to the tracker without even touching your HDD
1. if you mean sending just the completed flag, then faking upload, it's exactly like vDD+wR just said...
2. if you mean also faking all the &downloaded=xxxxx announces that you'd normally do during a real download, that's a feature we don't yet have. It could be implemented later, though.
"I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
That'd be also very hard to code imho.
Anyway, I think vDD+wR meant it wouldn't be wise to send a completed flag without downloading the file. Not uploading
Just wanna get this straight so Aurion won't get confused even more
Could be both, since unless you start faking upload with that same &event=completed announce, you'd be sending &uploaded=0&downloaded=0. This is completing the torrent having downloaded or uploaded anything - very obvious, the point of his post.
At least this is how I see it, let's wait for his answer...
"I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
exactly, because if you havent downloaded anything so far, but claim to have completed the file, it could be very easy for the tracker to detect you as a cheater...Originally Posted by Manas
Ah, I'm sorry, but I didn't get it...
Why should it be important to fake upload before sending a download completed flag? If there are e.g. 0 leechers you won't be able to upload anything... or if a torrent consists of partial seeders
I mean the main point is that it is very suspicious to complete a torrent without downloading a bit... but finishing a torrent without upload isn't suspicious at all...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
For those cases, you're completely right.
But it could get a bit suspicious indeed if there were, say, 10 seeders and 40 peers (that aren't partial seeders); in the vast majority of cases you should have uploaded at least a bit... I was just mentioning the outlook of things in that case since I always try to enumerate all possible detection vectors, but I of course forgot to say that in cases like the one you mentioned not having uploaded isn't suspicious.
"I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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