Originally Posted by
SealLion
That's the same wall that I've mentioned that separates Palestinians from their farmland, which has been confiscated on the grounds that it was needed to build settlements (which is partly true as that is what is happening there) so that in future, Israel could claim legal grounds of ownership to these "once-held-by-Palestinians", land.
Basically making it look like Israel had legal title to these lands.
as you may read on wikipedia, some 33% of the wall hasn't even been built yet at all, leaving the possibility that it could follow unexpected routes, no need to guess twice who will benefit from that scenario
a video showing the sheer amount of settlements (and their splitting into smaller land patches through illegal israeli roads) on the west bank territory, with some info on how they are appearing 'from out of nowhere' through sudden appearance of 'outposts':
Settlements in Palestine and how they happen
Code:
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58431.shtml
this image (Settlements2006.jpg) will show what the above video missed - the territorial spread of settlement areas with the no-access zones around them (notice the density of these restricted areas at the border with jordan, obviously to restrict palestinian access to the border):
Code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Settlements2006.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlements#Dismantlement_of_settlements
Most of these settlements have existed since the early 80's, some are over 30 years old, and with a total population of more than 10,000, many of whom have yet to find permanent housing. There was significant opposition to the plan among parts of the Israeli public, and especially those living in the territories. American President George W. Bush has said that a permanent peace deal
would have to reflect "demographic realities" in the West Bank regarding Israel's settlements.
what i mentioned earlier as better negotiating positions during 'peace talks'
Originally Posted by
SealLion
well, that's good news. Albeit it'll only be a small victory. But victories are what Palestinians need, IMHO.
But this victory was probably propagated to make it look like Israel, amongst all the criticism that it has been given over settlements and the construction of this disgusting wall, had lost some ground on this issue.
yes, the media will surely inflate the significance of this outcome, even though its still just a promise, whereas even supreme court decisions considering this particular incident (3 year old decisions no less) haven't been obeyed by israel, i imagine no time limits have been set, which basically means the issue can be dragged out for even longer periods of time:
The judges ordered the government to come up with a new route in a "
reasonable period of time".
Originally Posted by
SealLion
at the end of the 1948-49 war...that was when Israel was created by a number of UN member states. Namely one of them being the UK.
That was also the start of a nationalistic philosophy in Israel called Zionism.
What is Zionism??
It's basically a type of nationalism like any other.
a few additions:
zionism (sort of a racist religious nationalist political movement) was officially founded in 1897 and israelis started coming in waves (by tens of thousands) somewhere around that time from various parts of the world - this trend has been on-going almost until today, virtually reversing the demographic situation in palestine in significant favor of the israelis - once a scattered minority became overwhelming colonialist majority, systematically reducing/acquiring the territory of the palestinians & arabs (through various methods)
obviously, this has been an intentional zionist plan (religious motivation) from its inception (before 1897), because no large groups of people choose to leave their habitats just like that (spontaneously), out of some whim infecting thousands upon thousands of people & steering them towards a specific, already populated, land area, especially not this late in history!
as it turned out, zionists had substantial influence on the world leading countries (mostly as powerful bankers, politicians, diplomats), acting mostly behind the scenes, steering events & decisions towards their goals, which resulted in continuous mass israeli people relocations & creation of israel immediately after the uk mandate for palestine ended
last but not least, zionism is heavily connected to the nwo, rothschilds, illuminati, so its no wonder they achieved many of their goals during these years
Originally Posted by
SealLion
According to the Encyclopodia Brittanica on my HDD, the definition of Zionism is as follows:
if you carefully read the definition you will notice how they distort the facts (uk supporting zionism? has happened before ), according to them there were no palestinians before this event, which is false as even in ancient history they were known as the philistines (in the bible too), later during roman empire they lived in palestine and so on, the name is mentioned all the time, referring to roughly the same territory & people inhabiting it
and drove out 800,000 Arabs
who became displaced persons known as Palestinians. ...
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