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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    The bonus system on IPT has been reworked several times over the last few years, but one thing remains constant: it's only good for zapping hit & runs, as all the other items you can "buy" through it suck. 120 GB of upload for 10,000 points

    Back on 2010 there was no hit & run tracking, but bonus point yield rates were much lower, depended on upload speeds, the system was bugged on top of that, and once you finally collected enough points, you could only trade them for small amounts of upload credit which were easier and faster to obtain through regular means. I ended up never using mine for anything, and this experience led me to post http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?t=20123, based on a true story
    Couldn't agree more but the staffs reply to your thread would be these exact words in whatever manner one can say it in,
    "Giving too much seedbonus will destroy retention as everyone will have more then enough upload they can use." RED and BHD are unique to this very statement. and the hypocrisy of 10Gigbit seedboxers are next level retardation on why they still aren't limited. i really like BHD's and AHD's stance on ratio point and the fact the tracker is hard to grow in unless you DO seed for long term or use seedbox/cheat ofc. if only other trackers staffs implemented or did stuff like bhd and MAM has. I have around 10-15K Bonus point in tl and their bonus point is by far the worst i have seen.
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    Talking about bonus point system, just share the design of bonus points system of 2 sites which I feel interesting:

    LeagueHD:
    The total bonus points earned per hour consists of two parts, the base part and the bonus part.

    [Base part]
    Points earned per torrent per hour = (Torrent Size / Number of Seeders) * (0.2 + 0.6 * log(1 + Cumulative Seeding Time, 5 ))
    Basically, the fewer the seeders, the longer the cumulative seeding time, and the larger the torrent files => the more bonus points earned from it. No upper limit for this base part.

    [Bonus part]
    Movies/TV/Music/Anime/MusicVideo/Documentary/Other, 7 sections, each torrent in these 7 sections with less than 5 seeders generates another 0.5 bonus points per hour for you if you're seeding it. Such torrents only count up to 200 per section.
    Their system forces members to choose those dying torrents to seed if they wanna earn bonus points more efficiently.

    SSD/CMCT:
    Sum of the A-values of all currently seeded torrents makes up the total A-value of this member, which is used in the second formula to obtain the B-value of this member. and B-value, together with a small amount of others, is the final seeding bonus points this member earned per hour.
    The design goal remains to motivate members to select dying torrents to seed, and remain loyal to seeding it instead of constantly changing targets, like seedbox doing.

    What goes further than LeagueHD is, SSD even ties Cumulative Earned Bonus Points to user levels (which is the sum of points member has ever earned. consuming points to invites/uploads/etc does not affect this value), which makes seedbox users miserable again. If members just boost ratio using seedbox, their points eared per hour will be very few, so they cannot rank up. For rank up, long time seeding becomes a must.
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    yep, love chinese trackers take on seedboxers as well. it is always nice to hear some hate from some seedbox user always complaining about their shit rules on seedboxes.

    Not that i hate seedbox users since they are helping by giving us good download speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigduwksnsksis9283 View Post
    Couldn't agree more but the staffs reply to your thread would be these exact words in whatever manner one can say it in,
    "Giving too much seedbonus will destroy retention as everyone will have more then enough upload they can use."
    Bleh. IPT's retention was always below average, despite their large userbase. The custom of having twenty or more releases for the same movie or TV episode probably didn't help. Also, after considering the sysop's reputation and their donation perks, I think their system may be rigged to encourage spending money as an easy way out Bottom line...



    Quote Originally Posted by JohnareyouOK View Post
    Talking about bonus point system, just share the design of bonus points system of 2 sites which I feel interesting:
    My favorite was the one at Lossless World. If someone clicked on your referral link, you got 10 points per unique IP per 24 hours. Two hours and a proxy list later, I was a bonus point millionaire

    Pornolab's is fairly unusual. If you're the only seeder on a torrent, any upload you obtain will be "copied" to the bonus column, effectively doubling it. This is presumably meant to encourage uploading new content (you'll be the first and only seeder on your own uploads) and long-term retention (don't let someone else become the last!), and has been very successful. However, it also means that if you don't upload torrents, you'll rarely get any rewards. I've been a member for almost a decade and only ~1% of my upload has been earned this way.

    Anyway, the formulae on those you mentioned is very mind-boggling, yet they do very well in making one or more of torrent size, age and amount of (other) seeders critical factors. I think most of us will agree that the following scenarios shouldn't be rewarded equally.
    • Seeding a few of the latest movies and TV episodes where you'll likely get tons of upload anyway
    • Seeding the 100 smallest things available with your upload capped to 1 KB/s
    • Seeding some pack from 2011 that everyone has forgotten about already

    In the end, it all comes to this... if you download something, permaseed it.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Is mRatio safe to use with around 500-800kB/s on 3 torrents at the same time? These have about 500-800 peers in the swarm leechers and seeders added together. Is there also a way to make using mRatio safer (other than using the memory reader)? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    Is mRatio safe to use with around 500-800kB/s on 3 torrents at the same time? These have about 500-800 peers in the swarm leechers and seeders added together.
    See below.

    Is there also a way to make using mRatio safer (other than using the memory reader)?
    Use mRatio Fixer, follow the advice in client file threads, pick good and active torrents (this means no packs, exclusives or anything with few or zero leechers) and don't use high speeds. Read this section to learn from other people's experiences, including mistakes. On a more general note, don't be greedy or impatient and don't stand out.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    See below.



    Use mRatio Fixer, follow the advice in client file threads, pick good and active torrents (this means no packs, exclusives or anything with few or zero leechers) and don't use high speeds. Read this section to learn from other people's experiences, including mistakes. On a more general note, don't be greedy or impatient and don't stand out.
    Ohhh okay. I've only been fake uploading torrents that have a lot of leechers. For example like 230 leechers and 500 seeders. Should I be looking for torrents that have a really high amount of seeders and low amount of leechers? Thanks again. Btw, i've been fake uploading 4 torrents at speeds of around 600-800 kB/s for the past week, for about 6 hours a day and have still not been banned yet. Thanks again.
    Last edited by suicideLEOPARD; 16.03.21 at 23:29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    Ohhh okay. I've only been fake uploading torrents that have a lot of leechers. For example like 230 leechers and 500 seeders. Should I be looking for torrents that have a really high amount of seeders and low amount of leechers? Thanks again. Btw, i've been fake uploading 4 torrents at speeds of around 600-800 kB/s for the past week, for about 6 hours a day and have still not been banned yet. Thanks again.
    The torrents should have
    -many seeders and leechers (active and new torrents)
    -no packs
    -don´t go above your connection (speed)
    -seed afterwards for a long time with 0 kb/s
    Last edited by coolio256; 18.03.21 at 15:31.
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  11. #1764
    ^ best way to keep doing it good, but remember do not over cheat here as staffs later ask for client ratio proofs. while easy to spoof why take the bother and rather be safe so stay below 10tb upload and ghostleech to end with anon's version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolio256 View Post
    The torrents should have
    -many seeders and leechers (active and new torrents)
    -no packs
    -seed afterwards for a long time with 0 kb/s
    By seeding afterwards, do you mean after downloading the torrent in utorrent? Or do you mean seed the torrent in mratio after fake uploading it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    By seeding afterwards, do you mean after downloading the torrent in utorrent? Or do you mean seed the torrent in mratio after fake uploading it?
    in mratio just change the fake upload speed to 0 kb/s after your done with bit faking, this is also a good idea to do more often on more stuff for some bonus point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    By seeding afterwards, do you mean after downloading the torrent in utorrent? Or do you mean seed the torrent in mratio after fake uploading it?
    like sigduwksnsksis9283 said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigduwksnsksis9283 View Post
    in mratio just change the fake upload speed to 0 kb/s after your done with bit faking, this is also a good idea to do more often on more stuff for some bonus point.
    I understand now. I will do this to all the torrents I am faking. Can you not just start seeding them normally in utorrent and get the same result? I am also legally seeding 1tb worth of stuff so I am already getting the maximum payout for coins. Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    Should I be looking for torrents that have a really high amount of seeders and low amount of leechers?
    As per my previous post, "pick good and active torrents (this means no packs, exclusives or anything with few or zero leechers)". Read, don't rush

    Quote Originally Posted by sigduwksnsksis9283 View Post
    stay below 10tb upload and ghostleech to end with anon's version.
    The best thing about "my" method is that it doesn't report upload either, so I don't get credited for that. But since my buffer is good enough in any case, I value the ability to stop torrents when I want to more. And since IPT is a money machine for its sysop, I don't feel too guilty about bending the rules

    Quote Originally Posted by suicideLEOPARD View Post
    By seeding afterwards, do you mean after downloading the torrent in utorrent? Or do you mean seed the torrent in mratio after fake uploading it?
    You should never have the same torrent(s) active on both programs, so there should be no ambiguity here.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    As per my previous post, "pick good and active torrents (this means no packs, exclusives or anything with few or zero leechers)". Read, don't rush



    The best thing about "my" method is that it doesn't report upload either, so I don't get credited for that. But since my buffer is good enough in any case, I value the ability to stop torrents when I want to more. And since IPT is a money machine for its sysop, I don't feel too guilty about bending the rules



    You should never have the same torrent(s) active on both programs, so there should be no ambiguity here.
    I stop the torrents in utorrent before I upload them in mratio
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