Cheating on What.cd ?

**flux1** · 27.09.12, 08:51

so what is the best method to cheat there? RM + MR with 100kb/s ? will be ok?

**ololoshkicheat** · 13.10.12, 19:12

what about cheating by Utorrent Serenity?

**leus** · 14.10.12, 13:30

Originally Posted by flux1

so what is the best method to cheat there? RM + MR with 100kb/s ? will be ok?

"Do NOT use ratio tool mate it is another ratio master inside vuze. The only way I've heard it's working is cheating with high speeds on staff picks time I didn't try it and don't know if still work."

You guys are seriously to lazy to read stuff 3 posts above?!

**anon** · 14.10.12, 17:44

Originally Posted by leus

You guys are seriously to lazy to read stuff 3 posts above?!

Say welcome to new forum members...

**maniak** · 15.10.12, 02:28

Nowadays it's pointless to use staff picks for cheating, what.cd's ~~ppl with no lives~~ staff decided to make those torrents neutral leech (0 dw 0 up)

**Okaim** · 01.11.12, 17:51

So just asks:

There is a normal way to cheat on what.cd? i'm new there so I need to know. I don't wanna high-risk the account.

actually I have a failproof way to bypass their's anticheat scripts but it's involves more than one acc (that I don't have)
it could work even if we cooperate with someone that have acc there, but it would be more difficult and I only agree to do this with someone that have faithfulness to this forum becuase I sure what.cd saff monitor this topic.. (must be sure the cooperator is not staff there)

**dickbutt123** · 01.11.12, 19:23

Left about 30 torrents faking at very very low speeds (10KB/s - 20KB/s) OVERNIGHT and got banned. I've done this many times before and got banned every single time, i never learn.

Moral of the story: NEVER EVER EVER let something fake upload without supervision. Faking at 0KB/s overnight is fine.

**Okaim** · 01.11.12, 19:33

Originally Posted by dickbutt123

Left about 30 torrents faking at very very low speeds (10KB/s - 20KB/s) OVERNIGHT and got banned. I've done this many times before and got banned every single time, i never learn.

Moral of the story: NEVER EVER EVER let something fake upload without supervision. Faking at 0KB/s overnight is fine.

10 KB/s TOTAL or per torrent?
If it's per torrent it's defintly too much..
30 torrent is a lot..

someone else got lucky with low speed only on one torrent?

IF not maybe i'll try my way.

**anon** · 01.11.12, 19:59

Originally Posted by dickbutt123

Left about 30 torrents faking at very very low speeds (10KB/s - 20KB/s) OVERNIGHT and got banned. I've done this many times before and got banned every single time, i never learn.

Moral of the story: NEVER EVER EVER let something fake upload without supervision. Faking at 0KB/s overnight is fine.

Try 1 KB/s per torrent perhaps

**dickbutt123** · 02.11.12, 00:53

Originally Posted by Okaim

10 KB/s TOTAL or per torrent?
If it's per torrent it's defintly too much..
30 torrent is a lot..

someone else got lucky with low speed only on one torrent?

IF not maybe i'll try my way.

I've done it with 1 or 2 torrents at 30KB/s to 50KB/s and worked fine. Done it nice and slow over many days and got to 40GB easily, no hassle. It's when i left it overnight and too fast overall. For a few hours i was nurturing it (manually changing speeds etc) i was seeing my upload go higher until ~55GB when i went to bed. Woke up to a nice "account is disabled" message to start my day off.

**Okaim** · 02.11.12, 01:39

Originally Posted by dickbutt123

I've done it with 1 or 2 torrents at 30KB/s to 50KB/s and worked fine. Done it nice and slow over many days and got to 40GB easily, no hassle. It's when i left it overnight and too fast overall. For a few hours i was nurturing it (manually changing speeds etc) i was seeing my upload go higher until ~55GB when i went to bed. Woke up to a nice "account is disabled" message to start my day off.

30 - 50 KB/s is nice, anyone else can confim he could do it too?

I ask becuase:
I think the way thier script work is to FLAG suspicious users and show the log of them. (censored few things to don't give staff new ideas)
It almost automatic as opposed to the opinion here that think the staff need to read logs all day.

but becuase the staff need to confim the suspicious user is actually a cheater it may take them time to block you even that you have been flaged with the 30 kb/s speed.

anyway, If I correct how thier script works I think even 10KB/s will flag you.
so just wanna confim

**dickbutt123** · 02.11.12, 04:47

Originally Posted by Okaim

30 - 50 KB/s is nice, anyone else can confim he could do it too?

I ask becuase:
I think the way thier script work is to FLAG suspicious users and show the log of them. (censored few things to don't give staff new ideas)
It almost automatic as opposed to the opinion here that think the staff need to read logs all day.

but becuase the staff need to confim the suspicious user is actually a cheater it may take them time to block you even that you have been flaged with the 30 kb/s speed.

anyway, If I correct how thier script works I think even 10KB/s will flag you.
so just wanna confim

How can you confirm your theory without asking a staff member there or looking at their specific codebase? Their anticheat scripts are extremely complicated and are not available to any other tracker, i'm pretty sure it's more than "if upload speed > 10KB/s then mark as suspicious".

**Okaim** · 02.11.12, 15:23

Originally Posted by dickbutt123

How can you confirm your theory without asking a staff member there or looking at their specific codebase? Their anticheat scripts are extremely complicated and are not available to any other tracker, i'm pretty sure it's more than "if upload speed > 10KB/s then mark as suspicious".

1. it's called a theory becuase it's not 100% but i'm pretty sure I right.
2.I know to program scripts like that.
3.I know what i'll do if I have a tracker and want to get off cheaters.
4.i'ts not like "if upload speed > 10KB/s then mark as suspicious"
5.it's pretty easy to program anticheat scripts as opposed to what you think. (it even can be false positive because it's only FLAG you)
6.I don't going to explain what I think in an open forum (it's can even give the staff good idea if I wrong)

**dickbutt123** · 02.11.12, 23:10

1. it's called a theory becuase it's not 100% but i'm pretty sure I right.

I just asked how could you actually prove the theory. I know what a theory is.

2.I know to program scripts like that.

Okay?

3.I know what i'll do if I have a tracker and want to get off cheaters.

I have ideas myself, but to implement that on a site with 30,000 - 100,000 users and work effectively is incredibly hard. Think about the time staff will spend sifting through false positives. Then try to imagine how hard it would be to find the actual cheater in a sea of 1000 false positives.

4.i'ts not like "if upload speed > 10KB/s then mark as suspicious"

I know it's not, re-read my post. I said "i'm pretty sure it's MORE than" just that.

5.it's pretty easy to program anticheat scripts as opposed to what you think. (it even can be false positive because it's only FLAG you)

If it's so easy, why is this forum still here?

6.I don't going to explain what I think in an open forum (it's can even give the staff good idea if I wrong)

Don't flatter yourself.

**Okaim** · 03.11.12, 03:50

Originally Posted by dickbutt123

1. it's called a theory becuase it's not 100% but i'm pretty sure I right.

I just asked how could you actually prove the theory. I know what a theory is.
As I said, I need two users at the same tracker and I pretty sure it will bypass any anticheat scripts that based on that method.

2.I know to program scripts like that.

Okay?

3.I know what i'll do if I have a tracker and want to get off cheaters.

I have ideas myself, but to implement that on a site with 30,000 - 100,000 users and work effectively is incredibly hard. Think about the time staff will spend sifting through false positives. Then try to imagine how hard it would be to find the actual cheater in a sea of 1000 false positives.
DB size don't make anything harder, it's just use more server resources.
and I think it's easy to really lower the false positives.
what actualy matter is the active users on cheated torrent and it's not 30,000 users at the same time.

4.i'ts not like "if upload speed > 10KB/s then mark as suspicious"

I know it's not, re-read my post. I said "i'm pretty sure it's MORE than" just that.

5.it's pretty easy to program anticheat scripts as opposed to what you think. (it even can be false positive because it's only FLAG you)

If it's so easy, why is this forum still here?
1. Becuase most trackers don't have any programmers at all (and excuse me, I don't call programmer to someone that only slightly edit an open source system)
what most trackers do is just to flag speed that greater than X and for this you don't need programmer.
and/or
2. Becuase most tracker's progammers is "voluntarily" and they don't really care about anything else than their special right and title in the tracker (like VIP+ for free)

BTW: if the most tracker has good anticheats, I pretty sure someone will findout how to bypass it

6.I don't going to explain what I think in an open forum (it's can even give the staff good idea if I wrong)

Don't flatter yourself.I don't need to, as I said, read my first answer.
any programmer with common PHP, SQL skills can do this.

anyway, i'm in the same side with you here.. unless if your'e what.cd staff.