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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazzy
    There's a whole politically correct scene and everything where suddenly all the men are MIA and there's this whole girl-power thing going on.
    which just goes to show how this is not about correctness, but about a power struggle - not to mention that they are going against what is spiritually correct, which means their efforts will not only certainly fail but also in the meantime increase negative consequences for themselves and for current societies

    because she's just _too_ powerful of a hero
    regardless of her claimed powers, in order for this genre to work, all superheroes need to be of a similar effective power, which keeps their struggle continuously unresolved


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazzy View Post
    I saw it today. I think it was a nice closing of the series!
    It was full of shit.. Lazy writing, logic blown away just 4 the sake of the plot.. Characters ruined just 4 comedy, far too streched..
    it had its moments but mostly was shit

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    What logic? And what comedy?
    I wouldn't go as far as call it shit. It's better than most mediocre movies
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    mild spoilers ahead...


    weak/boring scenes:
    - hawk-eye's introductory 'where's my family' scene
    - iron man's monologue, rescue by cpt. marvel, lashing out on teammates
    - cpt. america's AA-like meeting
    - ant man's bumbling introductory 'where am i' scene
    - spider-man's babbling idolatry of ironman


    unconvincing scenes:
    - easily overpowering thanos at the beginning - he is supposed to be very powerful, as seen in the final battle
    - quantum theory backing up wild scriptwriter ideas - using nonsense to explain nonsense doesn't work
    - time travel - sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no 'past' to travel to, there is only the present, which keeps changing every single moment as long as the period of manifestation lasts, which is then followed by a period of un-manifestation, and so the cycles of materialistic manifestation are endlessly repeated
    - testing the effects of time travel: 'are you ok? yeah'
    - meeting your past selves - there are no multiple selves, in other words, this is not doable
    - thanos finding out time travelers are also looking for the infinity stones (time traveling time stamps lol)
    - elderly mr. secretary trying to take a suitcase from superheroes by force
    - infinity stones control time but when they are destroyed what controls the time then?
    - time travel works on asgard (representing the heavenly realm)
    - thor's mother raised by witches (only demigods and their associates live in the heavenly realm, no witches there)
    - multiple incompetence episodes from iron man
    - cgi: fake head on another body (obvious with michael douglas cameo)
    - cpt. america finds the office of his fiancee by coincidence
    - she's not coming back... what happened to the time travel and multiple selves scenario?
    - nebula's alien technology fingers compatible to terran hardware/software
    - cpt. america wields thor's hammer :facepalm:
    - convenient appearance of many other marvel superheroes (even pepper potts went to the battle) from multiple dimensional doors
    - another time machine appears when needed but it is placed in the middle of the battlefield so it can be destroyed when needed
    - overpowered but underused female superheroes, often incompetent/helpless male superheroes


    out of character scenes:
    - thor, the drunkard who failed, an emotional wreck
    - iron man, the family guy
    - hawk-eye, the killer
    - hulk, the peaceful giant
    - cpt. america, the AA-like counselor
    - cpt. marvel, the leading 'guy'
    - raccoon slaps thor around


    deceptive/indoctrinatory scenes:
    - masonic foundation of this movie is symbolized by the statue of 'liberty', representing luciferian doctrine
    - cpt. america in his AA-like meeting approves of thanos eliminating half of the population - this is echoing the masonic desire to wipe out 6,5 billions of people (out of 7 billion), as stated on the georgia guidestones, ie. it is playing with the idea of eugenic depopulation
    - constant egoistic bickering between team members, ridiculing/disrespecting each other - superheroes used to promote modern behavioral standards
    - no one minds lying to or using inappropriate language in front of children, civilized behavior down the drain
    - biased depiction of females (positive, powerful, leading positions), blacks (positive, though mostly as side-kicks or successors of white people)
    - hollywood self referencing (mentioning movie names in self-worship)
    - a demigod (thor) that somehow misinterprets impermanence of the materialistic world as all-pervasive or his mother (a demigodess) who somehow mis-concludes how everyone fails to be what they are supposed to be
    - searching for 'power items', promotion of sorcery, misdirection: the 'forces of darkness' are other... sorcerers
    - we're gonna win - whatever it takes; there's nothing i wouldn't do for my kid (moral relativism)
    - cpt. america, when given a chance, chooses to satisfy his own desires (fiancee), as opposed to his superhero duties
    - shield agent in the back (representing higher levels of the deep state, manipulating from behind the scenes), iron man crying out for a reduction of civil liberties (in favor of a totalitarian state)


    the good:
    - solid cgi but nothing groundbreaking, average animated motion scenes
    - some funny scenes


    conclusion:

    first third of this 3h long movie is filled with slow paced melancholy, where everyone seems sad, depressed or dissatisfied, the events are uninteresting or flat - its like they are all sad to be in the 'last' avengers movie - the rest is mostly action with many unconvincing scriptwriter solutions, making this yet another in a long line of semi-satisfactory throwaway superhero movies


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellman View Post
    It was full of shit.. Lazy writing, logic blown away just 4 the sake of the plot.. Characters ruined just 4 comedy, far too streched..
    it had its moments but mostly was shit
    of course, as expected. the only reason for watching something like this is the vfx. if you expect anything else, bad luck

    as for brie larson, i really like her. it's great and rare to have somebody who's not a PR robot and actually dares to say what's actually on their mind.
    and about the enforced political correctness see https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthr...229#post353229
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    i will give a short review overhere : quitted watching around the end when all the avengers gathered to fight
    it remainded me about my childhood when i've played with superheroes toys just that right now is on screen and i'm 32

    don't want to offend anybody but unless you have a small child mind in a full grown man body (or woman) or you are younger than 17 you can't watch this until the end
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    I haven't bothered with superhero movies other than the ones that make fun of the genre, so I'll have the last laugh here
    "Come visit sometime, okay? We'll always be here for you. We... we all love you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSaibot v.1.3.10 View Post
    such as ? Superhero Movie? Epic Movie - Disaster Movie
    Deadpool, Guardians of the Galaxy, Kick-Ass.
    "Come visit sometime, okay? We'll always be here for you. We... we all love you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSaibot v.1.3.10 View Post
    i will give a short review overhere : quitted watching around the end when all the avengers gathered to fight
    it remainded me about my childhood when i've played with superheroes toys just that right now is on screen and i'm 32

    don't want to offend anybody but unless you have a small child mind in a full grown man body (or woman) or you are younger than 17 you can't watch this until the end
    I'm 33, I never really played with superhero toys, was more into those tiny cars
    I think I watched every Marvel movie, since first Iron Man. Some are good, some arent.
    I think Endgame is an OK movie, Infinity War was much better for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Deadpool, Guardians of the Galaxy, Kick-Ass.
    loved those + Superhero Movie- Epic Movie - Disaster Movie wich even if are rated bad are good

    I'm 33, I never really played with superhero toys, was more into those tiny cars
    I think I watched every Marvel movie, since first Iron Man. Some are good, some arent.
    I think Endgame is an OK movie, Infinity War was much better for me!
    many more ahead bud
    i've played with superhero toys,tiny cars,legos,toy soldiers in different orders starting with tiny cars - i still have them gathered around in bags placed in attic - also collected a lot of kinder eggs toys

    I think I watched every Marvel movie, since first Iron Man. Some are good, some arent.
    watched them also and liked all of them except avengers series - wich felt stupid for me- expecially when they cinematically round up and line up for battle like i'm sellecting MK character to play with
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSaibot v.1.3.10 View Post
    watched them also and liked all of them except avengers series - wich felt stupid for me- expecially when they cinematically round up and line up for battle like i'm sellecting MK character to play with
    So did you stick to the part when all of women come together in that shot?
    That was bleh for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSaibot v.1.3.10 View Post
    i've played with superhero toys,tiny cars,legos,toy soldiers in different orders starting with tiny cars - i still have them gathered around in bags placed in attic - also collected a lot of kinder eggs toys
    Tiny cars were awesome, Kinder and McDonald's Happy Meals toys too. But Legos and Meccanos were the best, you could build so many things with them. Now there's been a paradigm shift and the only toy children want is a tablet
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    Legos are awesome but looking at the prices now as an adult, that stuff is hella expensive
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    When I was a kid, my parents bought me Legos police station. It was huge! When it was built I would leave it on top of old closet. So one day i was home alone, and I wanted to take out something from that same closet, instead of standing on kitchen chair I stood on chair that had wheels on it. I open the closet door, and the chair started moving, so in that moment I was holding a closet door, and me, closet and legos all fell down. That was the end of my Legos police station! Oh and I broke the glass on table that was in living room! true story!
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