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      What is Joal-Server
      This version is intended for people who have server and networking knowledge,
      if you want a simple version with a desktop app take a look at Joal-Desktop

      Joal-Server is somehow a ratio master, an optional WebUi is embeded (can be activated on demands).
      I initially developped JOAL because i was bored of the .NET framework requirement and i wanted to have a ratio-faker that could work on every OS.



      How JOAL compares with other tools
      JOAL RatioMaster Plus mRatio
      OS Windows / Linux / Mac Windows Windows
      Multi-torrent Yes Yes Yes
      Configuration Simple as hell Hard Simple
      Memory reader No Yes Yes
      App updates Download needed Download needed Download needed
      Clients file updates Download needed Download needed Download needed
      Proxy compliant No Yes Yes
      Multiple language No Yes Yes
      Headless server app Yes No No

      Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying JOAL is better than other tools around here. It does not cover the same needs. JOAL is focused in providing a simple user experience with multi-os support. The server version will provide a multi-os experience with a safe WebUi to administrate your config from wherever you are.


      Where to download
      You can download the latests release from Github.
      If you use Docker you will find two Dockerfile in the repository.

      How to use it
      Take a look at the documentation.


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    Joal server is actually "joal-core" wich is the code base for both the server and desktop app version. They both are the same.
    Most users are using the desktop app. But i initialy developed joal to operate in a server environment. So i kept this functionnality accros the updates.

    As far as i known, yes it's the only one to be :
    • multi-os
    • server-compliant
    • runnable in command line
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthony-joal View Post
    Joal server is actually "joal-core" wich is the code base for both the server and desktop app version. They both are the same.
    Most users are using the desktop app. But i initialy developed joal to operate in a server environment. So i kept this functionnality accros the updates.

    As far as i known, yes it's the only one to be :
    • multi-os
    • server-compliant
    • runnable in command line
    Thank you.

    I want to use Transmission 2.84 (14307) or Deluge 1.3.1. Do i need a equal client for joal or there's compatible ones?
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    Well, it's better to use the same client as you "real" client. But these one are quite old. Can't you update your client version?

    There was various huge security leak that were revealed on various BitTorrent client including at least : uTorrent, BitTorrent, Transmission, qBittorrent. I don't know if Deluge was affected or not. But if i were you i wouldn't use such old versions.
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    Version 2.1.0 has been released

    [Changes]
    • Greatly improved how speed is spread among torrents, to look like more legit
    • Decreased CPU/RAM consumption
    • Reduced useless logs and made logging messages more concise


    [Changes]
    • Fixed a bug with public tracker files
    • Fix some non criticals bugs
    • Fix a visual Glitch in WebUi (tooltip that shows contdown before announce)


    Joal-desktop will soon be updated after some beta testings :)
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    Version 2.1.2 has been released
    download it here.

    [Changes]
    • Client file list is now ordered semantically in WebUI (ordered by version).

    [Fix]
    • WebUi is now displaying announce progress bar properly even if the server is not on the same timezone as the client.

    [Client]
    • uTorrent utorrent 3.5.3_44428
    • bittorrent 7.10.3_44429
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    Question

    Hi,

    I used "Vuze Plus Extreme Mod" for several years and want to change to something that can run as a docker container, so this looks promising. :)

    But I think I don't really understand the concept behind it.
    Maybe I just don't know how Ratio Tools work. :)

    If I am using the docker version and use the "deluge-1.3.15.client" file,
    does the container run a real version of the deluge daemon?
    Can I connect to this via the Deluge GUI? What port?
    Can I install plugins for it?

    Sorry, if I am completely wrong about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
    Hi,

    I used "Vuze Plus Extreme Mod" for several years and want to change to something that can run as a docker container, so this looks promising. :)

    But I think I don't really understand the concept behind it.
    Maybe I just don't know how Ratio Tools work. :)
    Hi :)

    First a little background on ratio tools.

    I believe that there are two kind of tools:
    1) The one what are designed as plugin in real BitTorrent clients, such as vuze extreme mod. These are dependent on the real BitTorrent client but they usually provide more "realistic" stats (even if nowaday i'm pretty confident in joal).

    2) The ones that works in a standalone way. As ratiomaster, mRation, joal... These are completly independent from real clients, and they don't NEED to be started along with it, even if some can suck data out of a running client. They attempt to copycat a variety of BitTorrent clients to trick the trackers.


    How does they works?
    I won't get into the first category as i don't known much about these. But for the standalone apps, they are actually quite simple and rely on the fact that BitTorrent protocol is not meant to be used by private trackers.

    When you want to download a file, the BitTorrent protocol state that the tracker has to provide you a list of peers (called seeders) who are uploading (seeding) a part or all of the file you want.
    You might wonder how the hell the tracker known who is seeding this very file at this very moment. It's also a BitTorrent protocol rules that says that every X minutes (30m most of the time), the clients (you and all the leechers/seeders) has to report their progress on the file (how much downloaded, how much uploaded and how much needs to be downloaded before completion).

    That's it, the protocol is as simple as that. Ratio tools just fake these values and send them to the trackers, anything could be a ratio tools, you could even send fake data from your web browser if you wanted to.
    But not all the tools are equals, for example the well known RatioMaster is now quite outdated and must not be used anymore, it's does not emulate well enough to trick trackers anymore. It all depend on how much times developper or community spend on reverse engineering the real clients to understand how they works.


    These one i would trust are :
    - mRatio
    - RatioMaster+
    - Joal

    Speaking for joal, qBittorent and Transmission emulation are 100% safe.



    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
    If I am using the docker version and use the "deluge-1.3.15.client" file, does the container run a real version of the deluge daemon?
    No all standalone tools copycat them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
    Can I connect to this via the Deluge GUI? What port?
    Nop, joal provides a WebUi, but it's all about joal, it won't connect to a deluge or whatever.

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    Can I install plugins for it?
    Nop, as said above. You'll have to use the webui to configure / add or remove torrents.
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    So these Ratio Tools are kind of standalone torrent clients with specific features for faking ratio.
    They only spoof the defined client.

    Thanks, but I think I will look for another mod then. :)
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    Can't add more than 118 torrents to ghost seed

    hey, Thank you for your great program!

    I used to use it for small amount of torrents and it worked quite great. was light and fast, and as said here, I could even use it with my linux box without any tricks (like wine, .net programs and so on).

    The problem is whenever I try to add more than 100 torrents (my tracker gives like a poiint per torrent, so i just ghost seeding small torrents), joal-desktop just won't accept it and ignore it.

    Is there something I can do about it? I tried to manually add torrents to the torrent folder (at ~/.config/joal/joalcore/torrents), and even to the archived folder, with no luck - it still wont register over 118 torrents.

    I did notice that a single core was hard capped at 100% (like joal actually tried to add more torrents), but when it reached ~118 torrents or so, it just ignores the rest and ghost seeding only the current torrents.


    Thank you for your help!
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    @anthony-joal Is there a way to run this using a .sh script at bootup on centos/ubuntu startup? I am a linux noob but still can manage by googling my way around. However, the normal script execution methods don't seem to work for joal server. Help will be appreciated.
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    You likely want to run it as a service under systemd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    You likely want to run it as a service under systemd.
    Does not work but I'll try again.
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