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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Razor
    That's the problem...
    Why can't they release something that would be normally be released in 100 years?
    you need to... oh, well...

    firstly, there is no problem, there never was, at least not objectively
    subjectively, from your perspective, you see something you don't like and call it a problem, but your view of things is limited and thus not objective, ok?

    as for the quote, they cannot release something before its time, nobody can, it only appears to be possible to do it earlier than that (when you play with possibilities in your mind, possibilities which do not consider the reality of conditions at hand in every particular situation)

    so they could have released it earlier IF the conditions were different, but since the conditions weren't different, they could do only that which they actually did - this applies to any and every event in the materialistic world - thats why this world is called 'conditioned', it cannot escape or avoid the conditions, it is bound by the conditions
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    "Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice,"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy
    "Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice,"
    interestingly, malice may also be interpreted as foolishness, where someone assumes that by causing harm he will somehow one-sidedly achieve satisfaction or justice, while not counting on how it all comes back to him like a boomerang ('as you sow, so you shall reap', action-reaction, natural equilibrium, etc.)

    so to rephrase the above: they cannot release something before its time, regardless whether it was done/withheld out of malice or foolishness
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    There is a human tendency to expect that there is some big conspiracy and that some evil people are successful at making their plans happen while the good people are weak and victims to the evil people. The truth is life is a lot more simple and a lot more random than you expect: some people do their best trying to either do some good deeds or feed their families, a few want to show off and have some more power, and the end result is a mess where good things can happen to bad people and bad things can happen to good people, and that's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy
    There is a human tendency to expect that there is some big conspiracy
    it is a subconscious idea/impulse/signal/hunch about there being a higher force or cause shaping events in the world and one's own life, which due to ignorance (of that cause/force) gets interpreted as or transferred to whomever may seem to fit the role in the materialistic world (like powerful individuals or organizations or interest groups)

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    The truth is life is a lot more simple and a lot more random than you expect
    depending on the definition or what aspect is observed, life can be very simple or incredibly complicated

    randomness or chaos or the like is misunderstood or unknown order, ie. we don't understand how it works, thus call it 'random'

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    and the end result is a mess where good things can happen to bad people and bad things can happen to good people
    mess is an illusion (same answer as for randomness mentioned above)
    although, our negative attitude towards mess (messy things) speaks of our desire for order (not any kind of order, but that order which suits us, which we would like or be completely satisfied with)

    good things happening to bad people and vice versa is explainable by karmic dependencies (aka causality)
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    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    mess is an illusion (same answer as for randomness mentioned above)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2...itory_relation
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    Quote Originally Posted by VA, wiki
    A map is not the territory it represents...
    paintings ...which consists of a drawing of a pipe with the caption, Ceci n'est pas une pipe ("This is not a pipe").
    and to add another level to this: what you see when (holding and) looking at a pipe is also not a pipe, it is an image of the pipe constructed in the brain (the same applies to the results of using our other senses), so the painter looking at a pipe is simply a level closer to the reality of the pipe than someone looking at the painting of a pipe, though neither one of them knows what a pipe really is!

    wanna go further? not even living a pipe's life can tell you what a pipe really is (proof: living a human life leaves a lot of questions about that life unanswered)

    what does it mean to know what a pipe really is? to be able to access all aspects of the pipe, to be able to grasp it entirely, to arrive at the source of the pipe (source or cause of its existence) - in the same way, to know who you really are, one needs to arrive at the source/origin/cause of one's own existence (...or see sig, hehe), in a process known as self-realization
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