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    I looked up com.microsoft.office.officehub in ApkPure, and in the description I found something worth mentioning:

    • Try the new Word, Excel, and PowerPoint apps! Now available for Android tablets and phones in the Google Play store. These new apps are recommended for tablets and phones running Android OS 4.4 and up. http://aka.ms/worda, http://aka.ms/excela, http://aka.ms/ppta
    • Office Mobile is not recommended for Android OS 4.4 and up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Razor View Post
    How much space does it take? I know the full suite installer is about 90MB.
    Excel is 199MB
    PowerPoint is 225 MB
    Word is 134 MB
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    OMG!! It doesn't even fit on my phone's internal storage.
    I'll have to come up with a way to install it though, it's actually the best when compared to wps and open office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Razor View Post
    OMG!! It doesn't even fit on my phone's internal storage.
    Surely there's a way to install it on your SD card? I mean, my 2009 fake iPhone had that feature (but internal storage was just 5 MB, which made it pretty mandatory).
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    Here's my notes on the mcirosoft office apk:
    - 90MB apk installer with 350MB installed size (appears as office suite and not as standalone Word/powerpoint/Excel)
    - does not support doc, xls and ppt (2003 formats)
    - afaik it does not contain any hidden process in the os and it seems ok

    Now I have to fix that 2003- format issue. And this is another reason why ms employees are cretins.
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    A note to myself, mostly. I recently had to repurpose a Verizon XT1528 phone as a portable media player. This model has a locked bootloader, so no custom ROMs are available, and achieving even temporary root access is very hard.

    After removing "Motorola Device Policy" from Device Administrators and installing Rootless Pixel Launcher, Hacker's Keyboard and MX Player Pro, running the following script in the ADB shell will achieve massive debloating.

    Code:
    #!/bin/sh
    
    # Verizon
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motricity.verizon.ssodownloadable
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.verizon.llkagent
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.verizon.permissions.appdirectedsms
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.verizon.permissions.vzwappapn
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.vznavigator.Generic
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.vzw.apnservice
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.vzw.hss.myverizon
    
    # Motorola
    
    # Disable "Motorola Device Policy" from Device Administrators first!
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.localwipe.policy
    
    # REMOVING THIS CAUSES A FREEZE ON STARTUP!
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.providers.settings
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.lmi.motorola.rescue
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.lmi.motorola.rescuesecurity
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.actions
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.dm.service
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.jvtcmd
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.nativedropboxagent
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.provisioning
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.sdm.plugins.connmo
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.sdm.plugins.diagmon
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.settings.diag_mdlog
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.bach.modemstats
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.bodyguard
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.bug2go
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.camera
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.cce
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.checkin
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.devicemanagement
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.mainplm
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.notification
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.ccc.ota
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.contacts.preloadcontacts
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.dataoffloading
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.demomode
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.entitlement
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.genie
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.hotspotlauncher
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.launcherconfig
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.migrate
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.moodles
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.MotGallery2
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motgeofencesvc
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.moto
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motocare
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motocare.internal
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motocit
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motodisplay
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motodisplay.env
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.motosignature.app
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.nfcui
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.onetimeinitializer
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.pgmsystem2
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.programmenu
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.sensorhub.stml0.updater
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.setup
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.setupwizard.controller
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.setupwizard.devicesetup
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.setupwizard.phoneservice
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.slpc
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.slpc_sys
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.so
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.vzw.loader
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.vzw.phone.extensions
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.vzw.settings.extensions
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.wappushsi
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.actions
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.android.jvtcmd
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.fmrecording
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.audioeffects
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.motorola.groundloopnoisepreventer
    
    # Google
    
    # Uninstalling these renders the phone unusable without installing another launcher!
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.launcher
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.androidforwork
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.books
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.cloudprint
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.docs
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.docs
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.inputmethod.hindi
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.magazines
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.maps
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.plus
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.backuptransport
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.calendar
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.deskclock
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.email
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.feedback
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gallery3d
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gm
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gm.exchange
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.inputmethod.korean
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.inputmethod.pinyin
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.marvin.talkback
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.music
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.onetimeinitializer
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.partnersetup
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.play.games
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.setupwizard
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.street
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.talk
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.tts
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.videos
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.configupdater
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gsf
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gsf.login
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.webview
    
    # Others
    
    # REMOVING THIS CAUSES A FREEZE ON STARTUP!
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.settings
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.backupconfirm
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.bluetooth
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.captiveportallogin
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.contacts
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dialer
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dreams.basic
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dreams.phototable
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.facelock
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.mms.service
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.pacprocessor
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.phone
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.printspooler
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.calendar
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.contacts
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.downloads
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.downloads.ui
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.media
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.telephony
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.userdictionary
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.proxyhandler
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.server.telecom
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.sharedstoragebackup
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.stk
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vending
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vpndialogs
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.customermobile.preload.vzw
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.fusionone.android.sync.vzbuaclient
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.gotv.nflgamecenter.us.lite
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.hp.android.printservice
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.qualcomm.atfwd
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.qualcomm.location
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.qualcomm.timeservice
    pm uninstall --user 0 jp.co.omronsoft.iwnnime.ml
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.browser.provider
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.certinstaller
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.htmlviewer
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.keychain
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.location.fused
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.managedprovisioning
    
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.wallpaper.livepicker
    pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.wallpapercropper
    
    # Other remaining apps
    
    #pm uninstall --user 0 android
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.calculator2
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.defcontainer
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.documentsui
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.externalstorage
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.inputdevices
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.packageinstaller
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.settings
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.shell
    #pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.systemui
    Apparently `pm uninstall --user 0' works wonders on most devices to kill preinstalled apps, even those that can't be disabled or removed (but it doesn't actually delete them, you need root for that).

    Then it was a matter of putting black electrical tape over both cameras, enabling airplane and battery saver modes, and now I have a decent music player until I can get my previous one repaired
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    I tried the recently-released Android-x86 8.1. I expected low performance and little usability because that's exactly what I'd seen in previous versions. As it turns out, my mistake all this time was running it under VMware, because there is no support for the virtual graphics adapter yet.

    I gave it a second chance on physical hardware and was very impressed by the results. Everything was fast and fluid, even with several apps open. All devices other than the touchpad worked correctly. This on a Celeron laptop with 4 GB of RAM.

    Worth keeping in mind
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    Might be cool to make an android tv out of it?
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    I guess, with a Bluetooth keyboard or something like that. If performance inside a VM was also good, it would be tempting to have Spotify mods, offline maps and perhaps Signal (all of which have no Windows equivalent I know of) on the desktop, but I have very little use for a second computer running Android exclusively.

    I was thinking of showing the laptop to my mom next time she visits and seeing how well she can use it, like a social experiment
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    Doesn't signal and others need an actual phone number? I'd love to use the service but I don't want to use my number. That defeats the purpose as we are no longer allowed to have anonymous numbers in my country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazzy View Post
    Doesn't signal and others need an actual phone number?
    I'm afraid so. Their server only sees a hash of it, but others still need to have your number to talk, of course.

    Silence is a fork that offers end-to-end encryption for SMS, it could be situationally useful.

    we are no longer allowed to have anonymous numbers in my country
    Same here, but the registration system is a joke. I activated a line using a former president's name and national ID number just to see what happened - it still works. The funniest part is that this measure is supposed to prevent cell phone theft by allowing easy reporting and identification of stolen phones, but thieves can just "repair" the IMEI or sell them on neighboring countries.
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    If you have something with a Mediatek processor and it's unusable because you're spammed with "com.system.update has stopped" popups, disable Play Protect in the Google Play Store and reset all applications to the default in Settings. You'll have to scroll and tap very quickly in between popups, but this will fix it (at the cost of reenabling all disabled apps and resetting their permissions).

    It may be possible to do all of this more comfortably through the ADB shell, but this is the solution that worked for me.
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    Today I tried Limbo, a port of QEMU to the Android system. My experience with QEMU told me I shouldn't attempt to virtualize anything more demanding than Windows 9x, and that was indeed the case. Performance was very low - it took around 40 minutes to finish Windows 95's installation phase (first screenshot), and them some 10 more for the post-install setup. Once it was finally installed, there were noticeable delays in all operations. However, all of this is to be expected from emulating a completely different processor and instruction set on software, and on a low-end phone to boot.

    Sound was laggy to the point of unusability, but their wiki lists that as a known bug. I didn't try networking, but apparently only NAT is available unless you can root and install a TAP adapter on the host. And if you can somehow compile an Android kernel with KVM support and install it, that gives a significant speed boost.









    In its current state, this is little more than a novelty, although I do admire and wish the best for current and future development. And if you have an uberphone or want to run something with very low hardware requirements (DOS, Tiny Core Linux), you may find it more useful than I did!
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