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    there is a way without killing: wait for the natural death of an animal to occur and then eat the meat of the cadaver, like vultures do - however, the spiritual advancement hindrance still applies

    as for cloning, the body won't develop on its own, the soul needs to be present within the body for it to function, so i think they're using already fertilized embryos for that


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    Last I read they're working on doing it without an embryo
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    the basic ingredients are still needed, there is no way around it - what may change are the means of manipulating the ingredients and what can be done with them - however, in order to reach such knowledge, thousands of fertilized embryos are destroyed in various experiments, which means thousands of intentionally induced premature deaths and there is no happiness for a so-called civilization that so ignorantly mass murders its own children in the name of scientific progress


    Parable of the Two Birds

    Two birds, beautiful of wings, close companions, cling to one common tree: of the two one eats the sweet fruit of that tree; the other eats not but watches his companion. The self is the bird that sits immersed on the common tree; but because he is not lord he is bewildered and has sorrow. But when he sees that other who is the Lord and the beloved, he knows that all is His greatness and his sorrow passes away from him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    - Nirvana represents a lower spiritual level and is therefore not particularly recommended
    Care to elaborate? I thought Nirvana was basically the creme-de-la-creme/ultimate destination of the reincarnation cycle.
    "Come visit sometime, okay? We'll always be here for you. We... we all love you."
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    it is the ultimate destination for buddhists, as far as their system goes, which is said to be a borderline area between the material and spiritual world

    beyond that there are 3 main levels of the spiritual world, corresponding to the trinity of God (in vedic literature known as Brahman, Paramatman & Bhagavan)


    Parable of the Two Birds

    Two birds, beautiful of wings, close companions, cling to one common tree: of the two one eats the sweet fruit of that tree; the other eats not but watches his companion. The self is the bird that sits immersed on the common tree; but because he is not lord he is bewildered and has sorrow. But when he sees that other who is the Lord and the beloved, he knows that all is His greatness and his sorrow passes away from him...

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