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    Post Ghostleeaching on public trackers, higher security by ip-logging companies?

    Sometimes it is still nessesary to use a public tracker.
    May it be because you can't find something you are looking for on private trackers or you don't have a membership on a decent private tracker. Like me.

    I was wondering if there is a way to become undetectable from these MPAA, RIAA goons and other IP-logging companies or at least minimize your risk of getting caught.

    I have little information on how these companies operate so I would appriate if someone has some information.

    This would be my approach.

    - Route a torrent client through a proxy. For example TOR. I use it in connection with Privoxy.
    - Minimize your download speed to avoid hurting the TOR network.
    - Get well connected use PEX and DNT
    - Copy the list of all seeding Peers.
    - Open a second client which directly connects to the net.
    - Use a mod that disables Upload. I use userenity with the NO Upload option activated.
    - Add the torrent and delete all tracker information. Disable PEX and DNT.
    - Add the copied peerlist and start the torrent.

    This would protect you from appearing in the swarm, but if these companies happen to be in the list of active seeders then you are out of luck.
    I don't know how these "anti- piracy" companies operate. Do they just verify the files, copy all IPs in the swarm or do they become seeders and log everybody that connects to them?
    How does the situation differs in Germany? Are entrapment-like tactics legal there?


    Is there a flaw in my reasoning?
    What can be improved?

    Another thing concerning German users of Demonoid. Like myself

    Demonoid is not considered very private since it is very easy to get a membership and new torrents can be downloaded without being a member.

    But it blocks German IPs so you have to use a proxy to get to the site.
    This is a good thing.
    Hence there must be very few German users at demonoid. So IP-logging companies from Germany wouldn't be interested. It's not lucrativ enough.
    Another example of security through obscurity.
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    They connect to you and log your IP.
    That's all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A2OGM View Post
    I was wondering if there is a way to become undetectable from these MPAA, RIAA goons and other IP-logging companies or at least minimize your risk of getting caught.
    no upload mods and/or vpn and/or proxies. there is no other way to reduce the risk.
    Last edited by ghostfucker; 05.04.12 at 16:08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoulder View Post
    They connect to you and log your IP.
    That's all.
    That would mean that they only pursue users that upload, right? Could you name your sources?
    I've read something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostfucker View Post
    no upload mods and/or vpn and/or proxies. there is no other way to reduce the risk.
    I have to disagree. There are quite a few more ways to reduce the risk. For example
    - Don't load very new and popular files.
    - Check what kind of files are monitored at the moment. There are lists online. In my country Germany, it's mostly German and American porn (They prob. take advantage of the embarrassment that goes with porn), German music and German movies or German dubbed movies. Duh
    - Then there is PeerBlock or other regularly updated IP-filter.
    - A country specific IP-filter could be good too. Anybody would know how to implement that?
    Last edited by A2OGM; 05.04.12 at 16:31.
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    sry for oT:

    you are german. why don´t you post this question in the german section. eg.: shoulder and ghostfucker are native german speakers, too. they provide support in german, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush View Post
    sry for oT:

    you are german. why don´t you post this question in the german section. eg.: shoulder and ghostfucker are native german speakers, too. they provide support in german, too.
    I was planning to do just that. But I first wanted to try the English speaking community since it's usually bigger and more active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2OGM View Post
    - A country specific IP-filter could be good too. Anybody would know how to implement that?
    Yes sir:
    http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...4802#post34145

    iblocklist.com also has premade blocklists for many countries.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Yes sir:
    http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthre...4802#post34145

    iblocklist.com also has premade blocklists for many countries.
    Thanks.
    I already found a suitable list on Country IP Blocks and added it to the Peerblock lists. Works well.
    BTW In utorrent I noticed that the country flags of the connected peers are often incorrect. A problem with resolving the IPs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2OGM View Post
    BTW In utorrent I noticed that the country flags of the connected peers are often incorrect. A problem with resolving the IPs?
    I think uTorrent just takes the TLD from the reverse DNS and assigns it to a country. A peer can be in South Africa, but if the reverse DNS is something like 11-22-33-44.myprovider.com, it'll say he's on the United States as .com isn't exclusive to any country.

    I turned the IP resolution feature off, it's useless anyway.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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