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    Allowing Bitcoins as Currency for Trades.

    I suggest to allow Bitcoins [BC] as currency for Trades.
    Why?
    At the moment its quite hard to get higher/highes level tracker accs, for FTN or exigo you nett at least FTN or exigo. No one is willing to give one of these for a bunch of trackers 2 or 3 levels below, as have nearly no need for them.
    With a currency it would be possible to collect a and trade lower level trackers, work a little bit (webdesign, seedbox support and so on), rent private seedbox-shares and trade them against BC with users having a "lower" trackerbase.
    once you gathered enough BC, you can Trade all your BC you collected against a "rare" Tracker.
    There were some trades with rapidshares in the past time which went in this direction, but as rapidshare sucks now, theres no alternative until now.
    BC is an in the virtual society more and more accepted currency without any "real" good or organisation or authority behind them, making it perfect for purposes like this.

    Of course you can trade BC agains real money on some sites, but mainly its used as reward for work or digital goods. And we all know that you can sell or buy anything on the internet, let it be och-prem-accs, seedbox-shares, tracker accs and so on and use them for trading here.

    Imo BC's are a great chance to revitalise and raise the quality and widen up the offer of our trading section, maybe to revitalise the whole board.


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    Any progress at the Staff's discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    Any progress at the Staff's discussion?
    there would be a post here then
    but given the latest news it's quite obvious i think
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    Why Bitcoin Is a Scam - Technology - GOOD

    In 2009, Satoshi Nakomoto (possibly a real person, possibly a pseudonym for one or more hackers) invented Bitcoin, the first peer-to-peer currency. Bitcoin, which works along the same lines as the Bittorrent network you might use to download movies and music, isn’t the first online currency. Linden Dollars, the unit of exchange in Second Life, are widely traded and regulated by game's maker, Linden Lab. Nakomoto’s innovation was using math-heavy cryptography techniques to create a medium of exchange that doesn’t require a central authority or physical tangibility (like gold) to deter counterfeiters and regulate the money supply.

    Each time bitcoins change hands, so does a transaction history encoded in a string of characters. This “hash value” or digest can be decoded by anyone with sufficient computer power and time to devote to the effort. When bitcoins are exchanged, a digest is broadcast to the network of users, a participant does the work of decoding the transaction history, and other users quickly confirm their history is accurate. (The decoders earn a 50-bitcoin bounty for their work.) This happens about once every 10 minutes. Everyone who holds the currency agrees on who owns what, which ensures people can’t copy-and-paste their way to millions or defraud other users without the whole network agreeing that it happened.

    In other words, Bitcoin isn’t just a currency, it’s a massive experiment in group trust. It’s also a hint of the financial system to come and, ultimately, a scam.

    You probably heard of the digital cash after it was rocked by sudden changes in value. A few weeks ago the value of the bitcoin briefly plunged to negative eight cents to the dollar as hackers crashed exchanges and digitally ransacked electronic wallets to the tune of $9 million. A single victim claims that hackers absconded with some 25,000 of his bitcoins, worth, absurdly, approximately $375,000 at present dollar-to-bitcoin exchange rates.

    That’s a crazy amount of money to have stolen by someone essentially copying a file from your hard drive. And that’s just the beginning of what’s happening in the world of Bitcoin, which combines enough hackers, monetary policy cranks, and mysterious Japanese corporations to populate a Neal Stephenson novel.

    Bitcoin is a libertarian’s dream come true: a steadily expanding money supply without the state getting in the way of the sweet mechanics of the market. The money changes hands without transaction fees to corporations or government tracking. That’s why Bitcoin’s most ardent supporters are folks like gold-standard advocates and hard-core Wikileaks partisans. As interest in the currency grows, tech-savvy investors have jumped into the mix, speculating with bitcoins and profiting as demand increases; early adopters reaped returns as large as 1,000 or 2,000 percent.

    There are nearly 7 million bitcoins sloshing around the Internet, worth over $100 million. Should you jump in the pool? I wouldn’t recommend it.

    So far, you can’t buy anything with bitcoins that you couldn’t purchase more easily with cash or a credit card. Despite rumors that Bitcoin was creating an online Hamsterdam where anonymous users could sell drugs and lord knows what else, Bitcoin isn’t truly anonymous unless you’re already taking some relatively advanced anonymity steps. Even then, Internet forensics could likely track you down.

    More problematically, the economics don’t quite work. Currencies are most valuable when lots of people trust and use them frequently. But PayPal has refused to convert bitcoins to cash, and major exchanges like MtGox have fallen to hackers. A currency that you can’t convert into anything else isn’t worth, well, anything.

    But the biggest problem is that, despite its anarchic design, the system presents a huge opportunity for big fish to take advantage of the Internet everyman. Ben Laurie, a respected web security expert and cryptographer, makes a compelling case that Bitcoin won’t work because it accrues such a huge advantage to people who can bring the most computing power to bear on clearing transactions. “I mean, it’s nice for the early adopters, so long as new suckers keep coming along,” he concludes. “But in the long run it’s just a pointless waste of stuff we can never get back.”

    Most worrisome is the opportunity for collusion: If any single person or group controlled a majority of computing power in the network, they could rewrite the transactions to take your money. Bitcoin relies on the growth of the network to outpace any single node’s ability to control the bulk of the processing power, but one mining collective, deepbit, currently clears more than a third of all transactions. Already, hackers have used botnets, online networks of computers, to increase their ability to process transactions and mine bitcoins.

    These dynamics make watching Bitcoin a lot like watching monetary history in fast-forward. Timothy B. Lee, a tech journalist, paints a convincing scenario in which Bitcoin nodes band together to seize control of the network, becoming the equivalent of online banks as they provide transaction services to everyone else. And if those banks get together to regulate the supply of money, well, that’s where central banks come from.

    Ultimately, all money is based on trust. Aside from the folks who prefer to base the value of their assets on the hard work of Russian gold miners, most Americans trust dollars because we have some sense that the U.S. government isn’t going anywhere and is somewhat accountable to us. It’s hard to trust a monetary system concocted and managed by anonymous hackers who aren’t answerable to anyone.

    Bitcoin still offers a glimpse of a future in which the dollar is digitized: No more wasted money printing paper and coins, and instead of stimulating the economy with handouts to banks, the government could just download money onto your USA Cash Card. But we won’t want to cede control of our future currency to profit-seeking financial companies (the main advantage of Bitcoins today is their fee-free exchange) or give the government any more ability to track our purchases than they do with cash. We’ll want a decentralized peer-to-peer monetary system that combines the advantages of Bitcoin with the purchasing power of the dollar.

    Assuming, of course, that the dollar has any purchasing power left by the time we want to digitize it.
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    Youre right, Bitcoins arent established and its quite possible that the whole currency will crash epic. But the main Problem is that they arent used that often so there is no real worth. A currency lives from its acceptance and use in Trades for goods and services. As we use it, we strengthen it and ensure its value. And Imho Bitcoin is not a currency that will be used for real goods, the Drug-Thing is just a niche. It will mainly be a currency for virtual values. Virtual Currency -> Virtual goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    Youre right, Bitcoins arent established and its quite possible that the whole currency will crash epic. But the main Problem is that they arent used that often so there is no real worth. A currency lives from its acceptance and use in Trades for goods and services. As we use it, we strengthen it and ensure its value. And Imho Bitcoin is not a currency that will be used for real goods, the Drug-Thing is just a niche. It will mainly be a currency for virtual values. Virtual Currency -> Virtual goods.
    Convert bitcoins to high level WoW accounts with rare items > convert accounts to real money > WIN
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    Bitcoin provider should have cheated millions of customers

    With the promise of a digital asset an online exchange on the Internet has lured many customers. But suddenly the side of the net - and the judicial power on. The victims have little hope of ever seeing their money. On Facebook, there was a chase.

    They had given him their trust - and a lot of money. And now, as both is gone, they have opened the hunt for him: Approximately 100 customers cheated of 24 Bitcoin, a digital exchange platform for digital coins have already teamed up on Facebook. The initiator of the group has released there whereabouts of the wanted suspects, with the call: "Bloodhounds, makes you to look!"
    At the State Office of Criminal Investigation in Berlin there is already a complaint against the operator of the platform - due for goods and fraud. A German bank has filed a complaint. There they had become suspicious because of the unusual movements in the account: Within a short time exceptionally large sums were paid into the account - and then the owner also wanted to exceptionally stand out much cash at ATMs.
    More than seven million euros, the operator of the exchange market has recently bragged in internet forums that he had taken. He has deposited with a Polish bank, another with a German bank a part of it.
    Company with headquarters in England
    What has lured many to this swap meet, was probably above all, their own greed. Bitcoins are a currency that is created and traded on the Internet . The digital coins are the result of a complex calculation process. There are encrypted data packets. The amount of Bitcoins is limited technically to 21 million. Therefore it is now, in times of crisis and the euro inflation fears, some as a last refuge for his fortune. In the meantime, the Bitcoin listed at $ 266th In the past week, the price crashed to $ 60. For some days he is approximately $ 90th
    Of the known filesharing ruled a large crowd in recent days. If you register there to trade Bitcoins is only checked once. This can sometimes take several days. In a few days, so many attended, but can also the price of Bitcoins continue to rise. Those who lost patience, went to 24 Bitcoin There you promised to handle the transaction quickly. A transfer to a Polish account later to a German account, enough - and the Bitcoins are a credited on the platform for free.
    That the company that operated the digital exchange market, had its headquarters in faraway England, which could have a naturally suspicious. But who wants to spend a long time with formalities These kinds? A little bit of risk we leave it.
    Quelle: Google Translate

    org. Bitcoins: Anbieter soll Kunden geprellt haben - Digital - Süddeutsche.de

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