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    Allowing Bitcoins as Currency for Trades.

    I suggest to allow Bitcoins [BC] as currency for Trades.
    Why?
    At the moment its quite hard to get higher/highes level tracker accs, for FTN or exigo you nett at least FTN or exigo. No one is willing to give one of these for a bunch of trackers 2 or 3 levels below, as have nearly no need for them.
    With a currency it would be possible to collect a and trade lower level trackers, work a little bit (webdesign, seedbox support and so on), rent private seedbox-shares and trade them against BC with users having a "lower" trackerbase.
    once you gathered enough BC, you can Trade all your BC you collected against a "rare" Tracker.
    There were some trades with rapidshares in the past time which went in this direction, but as rapidshare sucks now, theres no alternative until now.
    BC is an in the virtual society more and more accepted currency without any "real" good or organisation or authority behind them, making it perfect for purposes like this.

    Of course you can trade BC agains real money on some sites, but mainly its used as reward for work or digital goods. And we all know that you can sell or buy anything on the internet, let it be och-prem-accs, seedbox-shares, tracker accs and so on and use them for trading here.

    Imo BC's are a great chance to revitalise and raise the quality and widen up the offer of our trading section, maybe to revitalise the whole board.


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    Again, what is this Bitcoin? You [supermarrioh] still haven't answered if this is https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bitcoin the same thing or if you are proposing your own currency.
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    I mean the official bitcoin thing, thought that was clear.
    A Board-Currency would have no chance of survival as our trading section is just starving around.
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    As nothiong happens, am i allowed to try out the use of the currency in the (members) trade-area without having to fear trouts flying my face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
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    Staff are currently discussing the ideas presented in this thread. We'll let you know.

    ---------- Post added at 14:56 ---------- Previous post was at 14:21 ----------

    "Staff are" is probably incorrect, yes. Bleh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Staff are currently discussing the ideas presented in this thread. We'll let you know.

    ---------- Post added at 14:56 ---------- Previous post was at 14:21 ----------

    "Staff are" is probably incorrect, yes. Bleh.
    It's not incorrect. Get a little confused with "are" and "our" ?? English people get confused with them a lot, the illiterate bastards....
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    I received a rep for that post, about someone whose grammar alert got triggered by "staff are". After reading it, I was actually unsure about whether the agreement was correct. (Is "staff" a collective singular noun, therefore requiring "is" and not "are"?)

    But the idea is there and was successfully, that's what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    I received a rep for that post, about someone whose grammar alert got triggered by "staff are". After reading it, I was actually unsure about whether the agreement was correct. (Is "staff" a collective singular noun, therefore requiring "is" and not "are"?)

    But the idea is there and was successfully, that's what matters.
    Staff is a weird word from a non-native speakers point of view. Yes it's collective singular but if you put IS after the word staff it will never make sense no matter what the context is, the listener will understand you but think you're a retard with poor english ability (unless they don't know any better, engrish speakers out there? haha ).

    EG: staff is bored - staff are bored
    staff is underpaid - staff are underpaid
    staff is wanking in the toilet - staff are wanking in the toilet

    as for our, that would always go in the initial position - not your question I know, but again it can never work coming afterwards. You can put "is" before staff, in certain contexts. As for "are" it too would only make sense in the initial position in certain contexts, usually a question EG: Are staff allowed to wank in the toilet? Is wouldn't work in the initial position unless "staff" came to form a 2 word compound noun eg: "is staff uniform issued or must we buy it?" or "is staff pay subject to review?" etc etc etc you get the point.... wanking in the toilet!!!! hahaha

    LOL @ grammar nazi's with poor grammar, absolute fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GymTanAndLaundry View Post
    wanking in the toilet!!!! hahaha
    Who said learning can't be fun

    "Is staff pay..." makes more sense to me because "staff pay" is still a single object.
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    Grml, i have to admit that im the grammar nazi. Had it in mind like this:
    If the collective noun (staff) is acting as a single unit, use the singular verb: “The staff is very efficient.”
    Source [it got a .edu, so it must be right]

    //Could someone move the OT discussion to OT?^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    //Could someone move the OT discussion to OT?^^
    *staffarerefusingtomovethespamelsewherespammerssha llprevail!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    Grml, i have to admit that im the grammar nazi. Had it in mind like this:

    Source [it got a .edu, so it must be right]

    //Could someone move the OT discussion to OT?^^
    Incoming essay.... grab a cup of coffee.

    Read that page. Even if it were correct from a technical standpoint, in practical application the social consensus does not share what they are saying/is being said. "The staff is very efficient" just sounds awkward when heard by the listener, and it doesn't seem like a natural sentence to me - as a native speaker. What you have to consider is that although it may be on an EDU domain, they are overly concerned with academic correctness, and haven't accounted for pragmatic social evolution. To say "The staff is very efficient" you would say "The staff here are very efficient" it sounds better, whether you're talking about one person or multiple people. People are more inclined to believe you are referring to a group, but nevertheless it can mean one person too.

    English is gramatically not overly concerned with specificness unlike many other languages, as you may probably have noticed with how it doesn't use a masculine/feminine version concerning traits or groups, no "bonito" or "bonita", it's just "nice" no matter which your gender. No "esta", "este" or "esto" it's just "this", to elaborate further: outside HE and SHE, HIM and HER (and their variants - he'll, she'll etc) we do not differentiate gramatically or otherwise between genders, this same kind of vagueness continues throughout the language, many native speakers with below university education do not know a great degree of words that actually belong to the English language. I think statistically most know less than 10% of the base language's vocabulary, and even after you remove terminology and specialist terms - there are a large number of adjectives and nouns that the majority of people simply are unaware of, uneducated of, or have no use for because they are just that specific. You know when you have the curtain open in a room at a slight angle, the sun is at a certain position in the sky and you can see a ray of light in the room with dust circling in a spiral within that beam of light? We have a word for that in English. Hardly anybody uses it. My old English lecturer told me what it was, but I forgot the word because I never ever had to use it. Can't find the word on the internet based purely off description, so the word is lost to me. Anyhow, my digression is uncontrollable so back to what I was saying, your average person is concerned with how eloquent language sounds aka how pleasant it is to hear and not if it's actually from a founded academic stand-point or indeed, technically correct.

    Little english vocabulary test, 10 words I came up with that most English people I would meet on the street in England would not know, please note all these words are very specific but can be substituted with a bunch of simpler words all strung together via grammar in the form of both adverbials and conjunctions (connectives):

    1. Innocuous (and all the word's forms)
    2. Digress - I'll give you this one, it means to go off topic - a pure example of how people use conjunctions with pockets of grammar to say what they mean rather than use the specific word English has for that action. EG: Don't go off topic can be "Don't digress" - much shorter and looks "less english". Interestingly enough, it has no opposite. You cannot "undigress" or "redigress" as neither are words, both are neologisms I have created for this example. I think non-native speakers get taught too much grammar and not enough vocabulary. I've considered being an English teacher, but the pay is shit so it ain't gonna happen
    3. Tautology (despite it's ology, it's not a study of anything)
    4. Reconnoiter (and all the word's forms)
    5. Melancholy (and all the word's forms)
    6. Archaic (and all the word's forms)
    7. Posterity
    8. Voluptuous (and all the word's forms)
    9. Efficacy (and all the word's forms)
    10. Intricate (and all the word's forms)

    If your first language is not English and you know of/are able to easily utilize at least 5 of those words, then well done. You probably have good vocabulary, most English people without a university degree or college education in English Language don't know any of these words, or "have heard of them" but don't understand their meaning.

    English in its raw form is more beautiful than it's given credit for, but the huge number of foreigners who claim to be "fluent" but in fact only know enough english to mingle with the large uneducated population. It's not their fault, the standard is already being set quite low by a large proportion of the native speakers, and it is logical to assume that if you can communicate effortlessly with most people then you are indeed "fluent".. but this is a relatively fluency, not concrete fluency (notice I didn't say "total fluency" as nobody is usually totally fluent even in their mother language) Also remember that in England we have many many many people who are uneducated or under-edcuated, and you begin to see from the demographic why the language in some ways is being nuked by the ignorant and the immigrants in to simplification that makes things "easier" for everyone.... this fad continues in to pronounciation too, by choosing how to pronounce something and not doing so in the standard way... but yes that's more digression again. Anyways, I realize I do sound harsh in what I'm saying, but these are previously observed truths, unfortunately. I know how hard it is to learn a language. I respect many foreigners for trying to learn English, what I don't respect is the number of foreigners I've met in my studies who claim to be fluent English speakers on their Curriculum Vitae (a damn lie!), but actually speak terrible basic English (grammar wise) let alone those with good base English who can even think about exercises like my 10 word test to increase their base vocabulary (of course this is very subjective and dependent on location, but most foreigners in England are poorly educated immigrants, or middle class students who have come to study and get an degree from England as it's more respectable than a degree in their own language from the respective country they come from, most have not previously lived in an English speaking country and thus it is largely an effort for such individuals to converse in English, especially for those from outside Europe - EG: indians, chinese etc)

    Anyways back to topic, I can comprehend that "The staff is very efficient" is the correct way, but I am 99.9% sure you will never hear anybody say that or use that in a practical environment, and if they do - it will be met by confusion or strange looks. I was told by many of my teachers how I employ a lot of adveribals in order to make my sentences well sounding and coherent (and they also moaned I used adverbials a lot to boost my word count - LOL)... which means I am quite conscious of grammar, and personally in both spoken language or within an essay I definitely wouldn't approve of such ineloquent crap... loool. Be careful what you read on the net when you're trying to learn... some people will write whatever crap just to prove a point they feel passionately for without taking the most necessary factors in to due consideration. I like how they failed to implicate any social implications such a well coherent yet phonetically poor sentence would create.

    In England they place no emphasis on learning foreign language, and even when studying "English" they do not bother to teach us the majority of the terminology concerned with the syntax/structure of language, I did English Language & Literature at college so I know more terminology than the average Brit, but most people from my country do not even know basic terminology. Don't believe me? go to http://google.co.uk/ and type in "what is a m" the first automated result which could be anything beginning with m is "what is a metaphor" - now metaphors are actually taught at school, one of the more basic terminological components and yet a bunch of people don't know what the fuck it is, so much so that they're all googling it to the extent that people who don't know what monotony or monogamy means are seeing shit about metaphors before they can type that letter 'O' in after 'M'.

    LOOOOL. Got to love my country's poor education system..... we need reforms badly in the state education system, but I won't digress further and go into that... you've seen the example of how bad it is if you bothered to check google.co.uk

    Random common mistake: people like to say "and" after a comma. And is a "conjunction" while a comma is "caesura". Taking a breath and then issuing a conjunction collapses the whole point of using a conjunction in on itself, as you only need to do one or the other and not both. I don't think a lot of foreigners know that (I guess it depends on your mother tongue). My polish friend is always putting commas before AND after the word "and". It looks really bad in written English.

    Random: The australian accent... an amalgamation of old cockney and american... hence why they sound so damn fucking quirky. When I watch australian comedy I'm always sitting there like "you don't need to crack a joke, you had me when you started speaking" LOOLOLOL. I've noticed when listening to australian buddies/people speak... they are prone to having an upward inflection just before the end of their sentences. EG: they start quiet/low pitch build to loud/high pitch and then the final word or two is quiet again. They will be like "yeah (quiet) it was -alright- (inflection) actually." (quiet again)

    Did I typo? Did I mess up with some grammar? It's 4:51am and I'm going to bed now so yeah... middle finger!! As for my spellings.. I mix between standard american and british spellings. Depends which one I personally prefer. British English is generically more archaic than American in it's spelling, yet some american pronounciations make no sense what so ever and baffle me. EG: Liquour - listen to that word spoken by an american and then by a brit. Brits say it with a french undertone, Lee-kyuh - americans are basically saying "licker" without even changing the spelling of the word. I do not how anybody in their right mind can pronounce "licker" eg: licker of stamps and "liquor" as in bottle of liquor both as "licker" - the spellings are completely different. In that way, british English is championing. Whereas when it comes to desensitisation or commercialisation, I would prefer to use the american desensitization and commercialization
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    Interesting read, bro! I knew 7 of the 10 words you posted. But then again "Voluptuous" is the name of a porn magazine they sell around here, so it may not count.

    Since you asked whether you've made any typos - "it's spelling" should be "its spelling". It's/its, they're/their and you're/your tend to give a lot of trouble, most likely because they sound almost the same.

    About choosing the spelling you like the most in a per-case basis, I do that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GymTanAndLaundry View Post
    LOTS of text
    you know we don't reward word count?
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