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    Allowing Bitcoins as Currency for Trades.

    I suggest to allow Bitcoins [BC] as currency for Trades.
    Why?
    At the moment its quite hard to get higher/highes level tracker accs, for FTN or exigo you nett at least FTN or exigo. No one is willing to give one of these for a bunch of trackers 2 or 3 levels below, as have nearly no need for them.
    With a currency it would be possible to collect a and trade lower level trackers, work a little bit (webdesign, seedbox support and so on), rent private seedbox-shares and trade them against BC with users having a "lower" trackerbase.
    once you gathered enough BC, you can Trade all your BC you collected against a "rare" Tracker.
    There were some trades with rapidshares in the past time which went in this direction, but as rapidshare sucks now, theres no alternative until now.
    BC is an in the virtual society more and more accepted currency without any "real" good or organisation or authority behind them, making it perfect for purposes like this.

    Of course you can trade BC agains real money on some sites, but mainly its used as reward for work or digital goods. And we all know that you can sell or buy anything on the internet, let it be och-prem-accs, seedbox-shares, tracker accs and so on and use them for trading here.

    Imo BC's are a great chance to revitalise and raise the quality and widen up the offer of our trading section, maybe to revitalise the whole board.


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    You just described a tracker selling market.
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    That was my initial and negative impression, but I don't see why this can't be discussed.
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    I did. Is our Trade-section something different, exept real money is forbidden? A Trade is per definition something when someone sells to someone something in order to get something different from him.
    Rapidshare-Points are traded, Seedbox-shares, invites... seldomly upload-credit on trackers you can send upload-bonuspoints. Whats missing is a currency to keep the marked fluid.
    As Trackers forbid trading of any kind, i see no point of forbidding this here cause of tracker rules.
    Last edited by supermarrioh; 17.06.11 at 20:22.
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    Just because it's a digital currency that doesn't mean that they aren't equivalent to real money.
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    A Trade is per definition something when someone sells to someone something in order to get something different from him.
    What if you want the same thing twice
    Rapidshare-Points are traded, Seedbox-shares, invites... seldomly upload-credit on trackers you can send upload-bonuspoints. Whats missing is a currency to keep the marked fluid.
    None of those have real life value,plus I fail to see our trading section as a market. :(
    I see it more like a list of "have this want that" threads.

    anon: I haz pornplusplus.com invite. LF some nice buffered account on a known tracker.
    sbfreak: I haz accounts with over 200 TB buffered on jizzileyourcouch.com , make trade ?
    anon: hell yeah
    Last edited by SBfreak; 17.06.11 at 22:17.
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    Rapidshares are sold in various boards.
    Seedboxes, too.
    Trackers [Even, or especially, High-Level ones] sell invites.
    EVERYTHING worth something, really everything got a real money equivalent or value, even if its virtual.

    What if you want the same thing twice
    You got two What.cd Invites and are looking for a TS-Tracker account. A single What.cd invite insn't worth a TS-Acc, so you trade both invite for coins. These coins are worth a TS-Acc. Without coins you couldn't trade 2 What-Invites for a TS-Acc without some really comples trades.


    Another hypothetical example, cheatos is that nice that he would give you the TT for What or something like that if you are a friend of him....
    Cheatos got a TT-Acc, buffered with 500GB. A few years old, donators acc.
    He doesn't need it, but instead he would like to have Exigo and FTN, but he finds no partner to trade with. There are many people wanting TT out there, but no one got Exigo and FTN.
    So Cheatos is trading with SBfreak, who got the Exigo and gets 5000 Coins on top. With these 5000 coins he is able to get Butchos FTN. Anon now uses the coins to get some secret very rare exotic invite-only fetish-porn trackers or something like no one knows about. Everyone is happy, esp. anon :)

    plus I fail to see our trading section as a market. :(
    anon: I haz pornplusplus.com invite. LF some nice buffered account on a known tracker.
    sbfreak: I haz accounts with over 200 TB buffered on jizzileyourcouch.com , make trade ?
    anon: hell yeah
    Exactly THIS is a market. You are going there to trade your goods for other goods. A currency makes trading easier and more fluid.
    Last edited by supermarrioh; 17.06.11 at 22:50.
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    Rapidshares are sold in various boards.
    Seedboxes, too.
    Trackers [Even, or especially, High-Level ones] sell invites.
    I know dude.It's just that bitcoins can easily be exchanged for real money anytime anyplace.That's what makes them different.
    EVERYTHING worth something, really everything got a real money equivalent or value, even if its virtual.
    I know.Even anon's sig.Look I don't want to upset anyone but to me using bitcoins is the same as using real money.
    I am just saying my opinion and if the mods want to implement your idea kudos...it's just that SBnoob is stubborn and can't see a forum section as a market.
    Btw how much is a bitcoin in dollars ?
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    Ill take a look....

    Average about 10-16, depending on the actual rate.
    But its common to us very small sums from 0.01 to 0.5 coins are used where i've seen them.

    Look I don't want to upset anyone but to me using bitcoins is the same as using real money.
    They are a real Currency, but not "real money". Youre right, its very easy to exchange them to real money, but as it's a currency used for trading its not that big problem. Would you mind if someone buys rapids to eschange them against trackers and the seller sells them again?
    SBnoob is stubborn and can't see a forum section as a market.
    I think markets are real fun, exp. if you got the possibilities of a currency. Imagine A codes a little php-script for B's private use who is to lazy atm, and gets payed wit a few Bitcent. With these Bitcent he can trade against some a bit use of C's seedbox for a torrent he wants to upload at what.cd to make some more traffic.
    As i sad allready a currency creates flow and movement, those things a good trading section needs. Besides that i'm sure this will bring a bunch of new users to our board.
    Of course this kind of trading need to be moderated and tested first, but if it works i think its an fantastic advance.
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    Are we talking about this: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bitcoin?

    I thought supermarrioh was proposing their own sort of currency specially for this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarrioh View Post
    Rapidshares are sold in various boards.
    Seedboxes, too.
    but not here. that's how it's been and will be.
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    I said nothing against that, i just wanted to state that rapidshares are some kind of currency.
    Here, rapidshares/OCH-Accs- are traded against Tracker-Accs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instab View Post
    but not here. that's how it's been and will be.
    People have traded RS accounts and whatnot for trackers here, AFAIK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gapo View Post
    People have traded RS accounts and whatnot for trackers here, AFAIK.
    yes, but not sold or bought. OCH accounts was a compromise and stretched our rules already.
    the thing is as soon as something money-like is involved it's beyond what we'd like to allow here.
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    You just described a tracker selling market
    Why not ? Most of tracker are selling their own invite like Donate xx USD and u will get 1 invite. Even FTN says " We dont sell invite........" but whenever I donated their they give me a one invite. I completley agree with supermarrioh, I have lots of high level tracker invite but why I trading with other low level invite which I already have ? for example, If a user willing to trade FTN,exigo etc. invite, obiviously he has alreday other tracker like bmtv bitme TL gft etc because they are below to FTN called by low level.In my own experience, I want UTN invite, one user has invite, I offer him lots of tracker but he has already all of them ! Now what ? How can trade will be done ? I asked him for money and he was ready to trade So obiviously need some money for expensing seedbox, ISP rent or something else whatever need.
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    Thats the point, Bitcoins would give us the possibility to trade with a Currency without involving the disadvantages of real money.
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