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    Quote Originally Posted by takomania View Post
    besides, anyone can fill a forum with junk - a forum filled with good posts by a good community is something to be proud of!
    True, I prefer less posts which better content over tons of crap, but we used to have more good posts in the past. That's why this is so depressing
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    I think I know how to revive the forum. Let's raise the PM and trading postcount requirement from 10 to 100.

    Advantage: all the people who lose their ability to post outside the invite section once they gain access to it will begin to post.
    Downside: the posts will be shit.
    I like anon's idea,

    Spam can be deleted like in the past as I know junk post are not so restricted now,right?

    What about new sections?!, Scene News , Movie Releases , Ripping & Encoding
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBfreak View Post
    Yeah the final year sucks hard.But there's always the fresh meat.SB-i captivated me in a way no other forum did.Where's cheatos Jr or a anon clone? New members are coming in but the only thing they do is register.
    April 2011 is my join date, I'm fresh meat and I carry a good argument!!! "lertsy" looks like a pretty good member too, signed up around the same time as me but like me he has his times of "mega activity" and then times of "supreme quietness". It's hard to be active on a forum where you leave 10 replies and wait 12 hours to get replies through (I'm guessing anon had a busy day the few times this happened - LOL). Takes a good few people talking to lure more people into talking. Very off putting for somebody considered "fresh meat" to say the least. Nevertheless, the discussion might be dying down but this is still the #1 bit-torrent cheating site - it's where I found new updated versions of ratiomaster and subsequently found all the other juicy software produced independently by sb-i coders such as mRatio. I believe this forum has a lot of lurkers too (people who read here and come here to download cheating apps/app updates but don't actually register and take part)

    Btw, this is a natural cycle.. I've been on forums in the past that had their glory days and never got them back. Other sites I have been on have had a very loyal fanbase, the loyal fanbase breaks apart due to real life, then the forum enters a quiet period where there really isn't much being said by anybody and then the cycle begins again with a bunch of newcomers who create a new fanbase and adopt the site as their new home. You always get that one member who was there to see it all though and stayed the entire time with a tear in their eye, telling stories of how the forums were "back in their day". Please note this could be a 30 year old but judging by his typing style you'd think he was 87.

    Anyways, back to seriousness I also think the .de domain name might be off-putting for some. This is the only ".de" website I visit. Not being from germany, I am not used to typing in .DE into my url bar and to do so semi-regularly now is still kind of strange for me. Perhaps having a .com would help the site target an english speaking audience, although I see sb-innovation.com has been highjacked already by some random french jackass: http://sb-innovation.com/

    What you need to consider is how this site is partially segregated. I never set foot in the German parts of the board because everything is written in German and I cannot understand/type German. Likewise I bet there are german members on this board who post solely in the German sections and do not post in the English section because they do not know/are not fluent in English to carry off some form of advanced discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blocker View Post
    I like anon's idea,
    I don't think you understood what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by GymTanAndLaundry View Post
    I also think the .de domain name might be off-putting for some. This is the only ".de" website I visit. Not being from germany, I am not used to typing in .DE into my url bar and to do so semi-regularly now is still kind of strange for me. Perhaps having a .com would help the site target an english speaking audience, although I see sb-innovation.com has been highjacked already by some random political jackass: sb innovation
    This forum has been .de since its inception. (Well, actually it hasn't, but on the most relevant plane it has) I think switching to a different domain would be more trouble than it's worth.

    As you said, this isn't the only SBI either. There's the Small Business Innovation, Small Bone Innovation, and a Russian site with a similar name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    I don't think you understood what I said.



    This forum has been .de since its inception. (Well, actually it hasn't, but on the most relevant plane it has) I think switching to a different domain would be more trouble than it's worth.

    As you said, this isn't the only SBI either. There's the Small Business Innovation, Small Bone Innovation, and a Russian site with a similar name.
    No no no, don't switch the domain.. keep the domain but add an alternate one that is less "exotic" if it's available. I'm not sure if it's a major problem, but it's something I've noted and thought could be a valuable suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    I think I know how to revive the forum. Let's raise the PM and trading postcount requirement from 10 to 100.

    Advantage: all the people who lose their ability to post outside the invite section once they gain access to it will begin to post.
    Downside: the posts will be shit.


    Quote Originally Posted by takomania View Post
    ^that downside's a biggie.

    i hate trawling through other forums which bring in post count rules because you see people sign up and post loads of useless junk within a few days just to get any access blocks on their accounts lifted...

    very irritating.

    besides, anyone can fill a forum with junk - a forum filled with good posts by a good community is something to be proud of!
    You can make everything 100 "non-spam posts" meaning instead of automatic promotion to an accepted usergroup that is allowed to use PMs and do trades, the user must be manually approved by either a member of staff, or volunteer trusted "committee" members who take the time to skim through all of a users posts for signs of spam. You could also have an automated system in place that says "100 posts in less than 5 days = spammer, do not promote" or something along these lines... although as far as I'm aware VBulletin does not have that functionality.

    Suggestion: Regular (monthly) giveaways to users with good rep/high posts could be a very nice enticement for new users, looking to join the forum and build buffer/access new torrent sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GymTanAndLaundry View Post
    No no no, don't switch the domain.. keep the domain but add an alternate one that is less "exotic" if it's available. I'm not sure if it's a major problem, but it's something I've noted and thought could be a valuable suggestion.
    Domains aren't free, either. I'm not in charge of this kind of decisions, though.

    You can make everything 100 "non-spam posts" meaning instead of automatic promotion to an accepted usergroup that is allowed to use PMs and do trades, the user must be manually approved by either a member of staff
    It was like that long ago, shortly after registrations reopened. To trade or send PMs, you had to be a Member. We changed from that to the current, more open system because almost no one was trading and no PMs were a significant drawback for some, staff often being asked to act as proxies to relay messages between non-Member and more privileged users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Domains aren't free, either. I'm not in charge of this kind of decisions, though.



    It was like that long ago, shortly after registrations reopened. To trade or send PMs, you had to be a Member. We changed from that to the current, more open system because almost no one was trading and no PMs were a significant drawback for some, staff often being asked to act as proxies to relay messages between non-Member and more privileged users.
    You could enable PMs to all, but make the trading section the only part of the site where trading wont earn you a swift ban, and have that section 100 posts to access. That way if people want to trade individually they can do that over PM and you can't stop it, but they won't be able to advertise everything they've got to the mass market. Add semi-regular (and not random) giveaways to the trade section so it's more of an "invites board" than a "trading board" and you have yourself a potential winner... of course the benefits of the area would need to be grossly over advertised both on sb-i and on other websites to get attention.

    You also face the risk that too much new blood = a potential tracker staff slips through the net, you invite them and they ban you, not before sharing your Ip with a bunch of other trackers getting you a torrent-wide ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GymTanAndLaundry View Post
    Add semi-regular (and not random) giveaways to the trade section so it's more of an "invites board" than a "trading board" and you have yourself a potential winner...
    That may work at increasing useful activity, at least a bit, but it'd be stretching the word "invites" a bit too much, and I don't like how it's done on other forums.

    The whole trading thing is just a mere plus to this forum's main topic, actually (which doesn't mean it can't get some changes, of course).

    You also face the risk that too much new blood = a potential tracker staff slips through the net, you invite them and they ban you, not before sharing your Ip with a bunch of other trackers getting you a torrent-wide ban.
    I know that on What.cd they prefer a more subtle approach. Trading SB-I accounts on #disabled and whatnot.
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    I don't think the problem is confined to SBI. There seems to be a general lack of activity on most BT sites these days.

    With the decline in private BT, the proliferation of ratio-free sites, and the ease of accessing cheap seedboxes, there's also much less demand for the need to cheat these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L33ch3r View Post
    I don't think the problem is confined to SBI. There seems to be a general lack of activity on most BT sites these days.

    With the decline in private BT, the proliferation of ratio-free sites, and the ease of accessing cheap seedboxes, there's also much less demand for the need to cheat these days.
    +1 so true.
    Maybe we can chose another general theme for sbi besides cheating ? This will attract more users and also give us a larger area of expertise.
    Like I dunno cheating and minimal apps ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBfreak View Post
    Maybe we can chose another general theme for sbi besides cheating ? This will attract more users and also give us a larger area of expertise.
    Like I dunno cheating and minimal apps ?
    When my friends ask what I do on "SBI Innovation", I tell them it's a technology forum or sorts. I kind of don't want them to know I administrate (at least nominally) the best cheating forum around. But that isn't the only thing discussed here!

    Cheating and minimal apps, what do you mean by that?
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    I mean minimal applications as in lightweight and useful ..something like rtorrent,irsii and other I can't remember right now including a nice audio player for windows that was even more lightweight than foobar and a hex editor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBfreak View Post
    including a nice audio player for windows that was even more lightweight than foobar and a hex editor.
    foobar2000? soprano? They're both lighter than light.

    This place has a ton of tiny apps. It's nice to see some people can still code very efficiently and package awesomeness in KB-sized executables.

    A subforum in the Software section could be manageable if that's what you want...
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    Even lighter than those two. That's not what I want,it was just a suggestion my dear anon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L33ch3r View Post
    ... the proliferation of ratio-free sites, and the ease of accessing cheap seedboxes, there's also much less demand for the need to cheat these days.
    As far as I know common sites (no ratio free) are the ones most requested excluding FTN
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