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    Anyone know what the costs of these discs be? I hope they have rewrittable discs so i can use them as a hard drive.
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    "A lot" is probably the correct answer Even dvd-r's are still insanely pricey compared to getting a new hard drive
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    Damn, well either way, wait a year after its release and it should be considered as dirt cheap. Thats how all computer equipment works.
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    Yes and no, as I tried pointing out, stuff like dvd-r's, br-r etc are all insanely expensive. And dvd's are super old by now.
    Probably because there isn't as many innovative thinking going on in that area as for instance, hard drives, that regularly get updated to bigger versions. I guess this disc will come out pricey and stay that way for a long time as I don't see any new updates coming there soon.

    It's always been cheaper to buy a standard hard drive for a given quota than buy dvds or blue ray discs. I'm guessing this will be no different. Rewritable discs have always been even worse, for that matter.

    The main reason that everything else in the computer world gets to be dirt cheap after a year is that it takes like 6 months ( ? ) to bring out a new and better version
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    Tough, I would like to see a 4TB HDD-Drive.
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    BDs are stupidly expensive for archival purposes many more DVDs are sold more than BDs
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    yay, i'd be able to have a collection of movies in loseless video
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    Quote Originally Posted by saebrtooth View Post
    BDs are stupidly expensive for archival purposes many more DVDs are sold more than BDs
    For archival purposes, just buy a 2TB HDD. They're cheap enough as is
    Anyway, so are DVD's though, just do the math! You would need 455ish dvds to burn all the data on a 2TB HDD. This is a generous calculation, having your files meet PERFECT conditions. This means that the dvds will be completely full. I think we all know that is impossible and you'll always have some spare room on the disk with nothing that fits.

    Over here, one blank DVD-R roughly still costs 1euro. This would result in 455 euro in a perfect world. Maybe 500 in a more realistic world. A 2TB HDD costs like 110 euro here, meaning you could archive 10TB of data using HDDs for the same price as 2TB of dvds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazzy View Post
    Over here, one blank DVD-R roughly still costs 1euro. This would result in 455 euro in a perfect world. Maybe 500 in a more realistic world. A 2TB HDD costs like 110 euro here, meaning you could archive 10TB of data using HDDs for the same price as 2TB of dvds.
    seems your calculation is off roughly by a factor of 5 :

    dvds:
    $20~(100*4)GB (*5)
    $100~2TB

    hd:
    $120~2TB

    Verbatim 4.7GB 16X DVD-R 100 Packs Disc Model 95102
    * $19.99

    Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    * $119.99

    Code:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007591&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&SrchInDesc=verbatim&Page=1&PageSize=20
    
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&SrchInDesc=2TB&Page=1&PageSize=20
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    Well, that's because yours are somehow a 5th of the cost of mine. (factor 5, anyone?) Over here, you buy 25 dvd-r's for 25 euro. So my calculations are quite correct, sir You must not have read my first sentence. I admit that I accidentally used 4.5 instead of 4.7 for a dvd, but your argument is completely based on dvds being cheaper where you live, rather than me having faulthy calculations.

    Also, seeing as they're hardly different in your case, I would gladly give 20 dollars more if it meant I didn't have to write 100 f*cking dvds, which would easily take a week of manual labour.

    As a side note, in my case I'm paying 0.05 euro / GB in case I buy a HDD and 0.21 euro / GB in case I buy dvds.
    In your case, that's 0.05 dollars / GB for a HDD and a shocking 0.04 dollars for dvds.

    All in all, in your case you can just chose, in my case I'm obliged to go for the HDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazzy View Post
    Well, that's because yours are somehow a 5th of the cost of mine.
    doesn't that seem very strange/unusual to you?
    when comparing these two examples, the hd prices are roughly the same (as expected) yet the dvd prices are more than 5 times higher for your example, seems you either have wrong info on the prices or the customers are being ripped-off by that shop owner(s), care to show some proof of pricing (the shop surely has web pages, right?)

    furthermore, i'd say your example is more likely an exception which makes it unsuitable for overall comparison between (averaged) hd & dvd cost per GB
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    Lol really? You want me to prove that stuff costs that much here? Why would I even care about lying about it?

    Okay here we go: Apparently they're even more expensive than I noted in my previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    doesn't that seem very strange/unusual to you?
    when comparing these two examples, the hd prices are roughly the same (as expected) yet the dvd prices are more than 5 times higher for your example, seems you either have wrong info on the prices or the customers are being ripped-off by that shop owner(s), care to show some proof of pricing (the shop surely has web pages, right?)
    Yah. It does seem strange/unusual. But I've come to realize a long time ago that prices differ greatly depending on where you live. If I go to a neighbouring country, say germany, I would be able to get electronics, for instance in case of germany, a lot cheaper if I had the will to drive an hour or two there and again coming back.

    As a matter of fact, you're only paying 92ish euro for that hard drive if you convert it while I pay 110.

    This is life, get used to it

    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    furthermore, i'd say your example is more likely an exception which makes it unsuitable for overall comparison between (averaged) hd & dvd cost per GB
    Still, even if it costs more or less the same, as it does in your case, writing dvds is a pain in the ass compared to ctrl-c'ing everything and ctrl+v'ing it again and just letting it do it's thing. Not to mention trying to find a certain dvd in a stack of 100 dvd's.
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    well, clearly a rip-off
    the german prices (considering dvd media in the example) are roughly two times the usa ones and the belgian are roughly two times the german ones and it can rise even higher depending on the shop greed for profit (or lack of good connections to importers)

    Still, even if it costs more or less the same, as it does in your case, writing dvds is a pain in the ass
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    And its no Problem to Order DVDs from Germany to Belgium... And you can get them even cheaper than in the US if you order larger quantities...
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    I rather not have stacks of dvds or cases lying around here. Trying to keep it clean here lol. Also, transport is often a bitch
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