Cheating on Waffles

**ch3ater.p3t3r** · 29.12.12, 13:12

Hey guys. RatioMaster newbie here. I've been using the waffles method on a different private tracker and it seems to be working. So far my only concern is the visible lack of uploaded bytes when I'm looking at my torrent history from the private tracker. I do see my current seed on the active torrents list 0kB downloaded 0kB uploaded, If i stop the seeding then this disappears and will never be updated to the Torrent History (History of all the torrents I've downloaded using the original client) So if i look at my total uploaded (this is the stat being affected by RM) and add the bytes I actually uploaded (from Torrent History affected only by DL/UL from original client) then there's a discrepancy of numbers. Is there anything I can do to make it look like I legitimately uploaded or I just have to bury the numbers by legitimate UL/DL from original client? Thanks Guys!

**anon** · 29.12.12, 18:47

I'm guessing it's a temporary snatchlist, where entries from your legit client would also be gone if you stop its torrents. But knowing the tracker's name would help me.

**ch3ater.p3t3r** · 02.01.13, 19:21

Originally Posted by anon

I'm guessing it's a temporary snatchlist, where entries from your legit client would also be gone if you stop its torrents. But knowing the tracker's name would help me.

Sorry for the late reply anon. The tracker is HD-Torrents. I've downloaded a new .torrent (hundreds of seeders and leechers) but I didn't load it up at utorrent2.2.1 instead I opened it up with RM1.9.1 then did the waffles method. It just shows up on the active torrents list but never gets transferred into my overall torrent history. Actually while I was writing this I thought maybe I need to enable downloads on RM also? Instead of being 100% seeder? so that it'll register? not that RM will download anything anyways. I also noticed that torrents only get transferred to my overall torrent history once I downloaded EVERYTHING. I got this nasty habit of skipping samples, nfo and other stuff which makes me a leecher even though I'm seeding.

My steps for RM
1. look for nice leecher seeder ratio, non packs, new torrents then download .torrent
2. open up RM then uTorrent, setup RM as 100% Seeder+Mem
3. Start, wait until 2 minutes before tracker update, then stop
4. change UL to 0KBps, then start wait until tracker updates then stop
5. repeat step 2 until desired ratio

P.S. I think the temporary snatchlist that you're saying is the Active torrents list wherein whenever I started dl/ul on uTorrent it would appear there but would disappear once I stopped all activity. My problem is the Torrent History it shows up all your completed torrents whether you're actively seeding or not. This list shows total UL for each torrent and once you do the math my uploaded GBs seems to come out of nowhere. Not that any mods seems to notice my activity. But if ever they ask me I just want as much info as I can. Thanks!

**anon** · 02.01.13, 23:00

Based on what you're telling me, it would appear that this "overall torrent history" is just a list of completed torrents. So you have nothing to worry about with your current RM usage method, as long as you do it on torrents which can be found on other trackers. A lot of people cross-seed to improve their ratios on those, so it won't look suspicious. But it's hard to start at 100% on an exclusive one you never downloaded...

**blacksox** · 08.01.13, 12:09

Waffles undergoing some code changes or under the hood stuff? Reckon you should hold off incase

**Leviathan** · 03.04.13, 08:51

Originally Posted by letsdothis

I cheated a lot of GBs with waffles method (manual) with mRatio 4.4 & mr. Seems there is no problem now, I used old torrents with 0 seeders 0 leechers or 0 seeders 1 leechers.

Hi

Did you fake on torrents which have 0 leecher? :-| And nothing happened?

Your account is still alive?

**leus** · 03.04.13, 11:47

I doubt the anti-cheating scripts are that bad, Leviathan.

**Leviathan** · 03.04.13, 14:23

Originally Posted by leus

I doubt the anti-cheating scripts are that bad, Leviathan.

Me too....

**anon** · 03.04.13, 15:05

Originally Posted by leus

I doubt the anti-cheating scripts are that bad, Leviathan.

He's quoting the guy who flashed on Waffles and survived.

**Leviathan** · 03.04.13, 15:31

Originally Posted by anon

He's quoting the guy who flashed on Waffles and survived.

:-D You're right Anon. It's surprised me that the waffles has a poor anticheat script.

**nex11s** · 26.04.13, 00:23

hello guys,im a newbie here
i have an account on waffles but already on ratio watch and i cant download any torrent even from my snatch list if i wanted to use the waffles method,so how can i download the torrent file,all my data is lost including my music after my laptop fell and the harddisk broke,so im trying to revive my account there in a try to restore my music collection.

**anon** · 26.04.13, 03:02

The only thing you can do at this point is uploading some music of your own in hopes of getting above ratio watch.

Or maybe you can ask someone else who's also a member of Waffles to fetch the .torrent files for you, and change the passkey.