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    i have a very good download speed : max - 1 MB/s but upload is just 40-60 KB/s
    its kinda hard for me to buffer my accounts because i download a lot,sometimes even 50 GB's a day
    generally 15-20 GB
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    If no one gonna upload on Tracker what we download.
    So seeding is good for people who have good upload speed and cheating is good for People like me who have horrible upload speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellboy View Post
    i have a very good download speed : max - 1 MB/s but upload is just 40-60 KB/s
    its kinda hard for me to buffer my accounts because i download a lot,sometimes even 50 GB's a day
    generally 15-20 GB
    What you talk about is your personal ratio. Witch of course you can't hold at 1:1 and that is of course the reason why you are here.
    But forgot about ratio. Its nothing. Its just best shot of tracker staff to encourage sharing. Witch obviously does not work as it should becouse we dont have perfect, homogen situation. Not all people are same and not everyone can contribute back same amount. Ok now, when you forgot about ratio try to seed stuff not because of ratio; seed it becouse other people struggle to downlad it.
    So im not telling you that you should seed a 0 day release torrent from torrentleech with 423 seeders and 32 leechers becouse there is no point in that. But what you should do and what you can do is to contribute at specific stuff that is not so popular, but that you like it. So do not missunderstand me, i'm not forcing you to downlaod stuff that you dont need/want and seed it just becouse it is rare or poor seeded. I'm telling you that you seed stuff that you snatched becouse you like it and you obviously had hard time getting it.. like 1 seeder witch comes online for a few hours a day. Good example of that kind of torrent would be some obscure music from what.cd or some movie from karagarga.
    40-60kb/sec is not bad at all. There is uploaders at KG tracker with even slower speeds. I personally can top 20 kb/sec and its better then nothing. I'm very happy when i'm downlaoding chinese instrumental music from what.cd at that speed. Becouse it actually can be much worse. Imagine downloading 500mb torrent at 1.3 kb/sec average.
    Hope you got my point.
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    my upload like many other ae sucky, 100kb, but relly i dont feel any responsibility for uploading or sharing even if i got faster connection. in this file share world i only care for my download. sounds very ego but thats me when it comes to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowww View Post
    But forgot about ratio. Its nothing. Its just best shot of tracker staff to encourage sharing. Witch obviously does not work as it should becouse we dont have perfect, homogen situation. Not all people are same and not everyone can contribute back same amount.
    Fully right. On a "classic" scheme uploading is the only way to get your ratio up, and downloading decreases it, it's mathematically impossible for everyone to keep a good ratio.

    Some trackers are aware of this and offer other ways to get upload credit, like offering the possibility of "donating" it to another user, idling on IRC, etc., apart from the well-known bonus points you can find at trackers like IPT, and BCG's twist, Seed Points.

    Some others are less "understanding" - ScT and Waffles, for example.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    same here, i have a very shitty upload speed so i can hardly compete with the "big guys". moreover I don't have same interest in what has more leechers with many people well except for new movies... but even with that seedbox users finish 1hr or 30mins before I do so how the hell will I get 1:1 ratio. Yeah in my dreams of course. That is why I am here, but I will upload more and more if my ISP got me a better upload speed and yet still I will still find myself here because I have never been a good boy. If you feel you can upload and not have any worries kindly do and help us download, we just cant and hence cheating methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    Some trackers are aware of this and offer other ways to get upload credit
    every tracker is aware of user diversity, another question is whether they are willing to do something about it and what kind of status they are striving for - best case scenario - all disadvantages are balanced out & taken into account without hurting such users, in effect creating a prosperous community with satisfied users regardless of their uploading abilities (this can be translated or compared to our society in general)

    Some others are less "understanding" - ScT and Waffles, for example.
    naturally & intentionally, as slow users are not wanted on leet trackers, good thing that elitism can be countered with ratio faking
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    Quote Originally Posted by slikrapid View Post
    every tracker is aware of user diversity
    My wording wasn't the best, but that's exactly what I meant All of them are aware small bandwidth users exist. Some go to the extent of giving them a chance.

    naturally & intentionally, as slow users are not wanted on leet trackers, good thing that elitism can be countered with ratio faking
    We have the Waffles method, and high rates like 2mB/s are safe to use at ScT. Call it revenge for being so arrogant
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    This thread and http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?t=10935 should be mandatory reading. Also...

    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    I personally seed all my public torrents 1:1, then some more.


    Current public torrents, sorted by ratio in descending order. I've come a long way since then
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    since i have no active public torrents, here is an example of what is currently seeded at a semi-public music site, also sorted by ratio:

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    Nice ratios! The biggest cheaters of yesterday are the biggest seeders of today
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    Alright, we have shown our current ratios, now let's do upload speeds!

    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    do you use RDP ?
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    What for? This is my home computer.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."
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    To remotely seeding, would it be so nice ?
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