A little tutorial on how to cheat on waffles:RELOADED

**Mihai** · 09.06.09, 14:32

This is my first tut but with some more precations and a little diferent aproach.So the flashing method is the same.You can find it here if you don't know it.First read that then come here again.
SO i discovered some new methods to cheat there with my flashing method.These are a little more safer.

Method 1

This method is good if you are lazy to do it every day.It is better to use it on torrents already downloaded by you.Use it especially on torrents that have a lot of seed time( more than 24 hours is good but more then 36 hours is 100% sure you won't get cauth).
So the method is simple.Just use my flashing method on torrents you have downloaded with a lot of seed time.You can use it even on torrents with no leechers.Not recomended but works.

Method 2

This one is for guys that aren't lazy like me

This is a little more complicated but it's safe too.You can use it on any torrents and even on torrents that were downloaded with ratio master or mratio.The basic thing is to flash little by little.And when i say little by little i mean like 10%-20% of that torrent every day until you reach a decent ratio.It's safe too because you manage to get a good ratio on that torrent in a couple of days.It's also very good on packs.

These are the methods.Why do i think these are good?Because admins look at snatchlist.So what are they going to find?A torrent with ratio 1,... done in 5-6 days.Nothing weird about that.

If you like them use them.If you're too scared to use them then there's no problem.Wait until other users here tell us it works.
If you find something else don't hesitate to tell us.
Hope you like it and my advices:CHEAT SAFE AND DON'T BE GREEDY.

**anon** · 09.06.09, 14:38

You really like cheating at Waffles, don't you?

But this is correct:

Originally Posted by Mihai91

Hope you like it and my advices:CHEAT SAFE AND DON'T BE GREEDY.

And a general advice for cheating in general. It's also true that a few GBs done in a longer amount of time won't look as suspicious.

**classyboy** · 09.06.09, 18:15

Perfect, Mihai. And I agree with you, they work well, if done in limits, and there is nothing that can detect them, except a seasoned cheater, who looks at the snatchlist.

**anon** · 09.06.09, 18:52

Originally Posted by classyboy

there is nothing that can detect them, except a seasoned cheater, who looks at the snatchlist.

I think you mean admin?

**HeArTLeS** · 09.06.09, 19:08

i m really afraid of cheating that type of sites.

**anon** · 09.06.09, 19:09

Nothing will happen if you're careful.

By the way, you're spamming a bit too much

**classyboy** · 09.06.09, 21:17

Originally Posted by anon

I think you mean admin?

No, I mean 'seasoned cheater'. Admins may or may not realise. Some admins are too stupid.
I mean a cheater, because, for eg., when I myself cheat, I usually see the peerlist first and see the average speeds and all. And at Waffles, I see the snatchlist first as it gives a rough idea of what's going on. When I see snachlist, it's easy to spot out a few cheaters. Of course a cheater seeing another cheat wouldn't matter, as he wont be reporting to staff anyways. What I intended to say was that careful cheating there will be completely undetectable, no script an detect it, and only the most experienced cheater would be able to see the subtle difference in the stats.

**anon** · 09.06.09, 21:21

Mmmm, you may be right - a "seasoned cheater looking at the snatchlist" can detect you indeed. I have spotted a few people using no report mods on trackers myself by just looking at the peerlist.

This should be no problem - unless he reports you!

**Mihai** · 09.06.09, 22:06

Originally Posted by HeArTLeS

i m really afraid of cheating that type of sites.

Why?See thats why i made this tutorial.To make people stop overestimate these trackers.Dude it's very easy to cheat if you do it my way.

**douche99** · 12.06.09, 19:32

I have got to admit Mihai91 that your methodes sound tempting, but I m still really lazy

I guess I will try it, but I think it is still easier to just put the torrent into Xtreme Vuze mod and fake at ... I dont know 90 kbits. Should be save as well.

*goes away, to fake on Waffles*

**Mihai** · 12.06.09, 19:42

Maybe but i think my method is safer that extrememods.Because extreme mod can fake when there are partial seeders so you would be the single one uploading.So you have more chances of beeing cauth with extrememods that with my method.But it's your choice.Just cheat safe and don't be greedy.

**anon** · 12.06.09, 19:59

Maybe but i think my method is safer that extrememods.Because extreme mod can fake when there are partial seeders so you would be the single one uploading.

So can ratio tools. Also, remember the Extreme Mod can also "generate" activity by downloading the files, something tools can't do.

**Velverde** · 13.06.09, 01:55

hi mihai ur methods are efficient but i have a question with no solution until now is that while

the file is not complete my seed time didn't increase

is this normal?

**Mihai** · 13.06.09, 10:11

Yes.Because you dind't download it all you are a part seeder.That means you are never shown as a seeder.In this case just let it upload and don't worry about the seed time that doesn't increase.You can see your leech time is very big.If they look at your profile they will say you didn't download it all.But there is no problem in that,there are many part seeders out there.