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Some sad news to Usenet indexers:
NinjaCentral went paid only and no longer offers lifetime plans.
- As of today all non-paying accounts (even if paid before) have been pruned.
- Also, the site no longer offers "lifetime" accounts.
- Existing lifetime accounts will be honored.
- New users, when invited, have 14 days to pay before having the account deleted.
Soon to be updated to the API Indexers Table.
So that's why my account was gone today, I was logging in almost everyday to keep it alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbestran
even not a good one.
just so so.
I guess lifetime subscriptions are not sustainable after all.
By the way, it's pretty dumb of them to purge all free users in one fell swoop. Turn them into trial accounts and let them see this announcement and decide what to do. Even if 99% of them don't donate, you won't be making things harder for the 1% that would have (and now needs to either find an invite or wait for the next open signups).
they are from Africa. they want more and more money, may be they will disappear soon.
before there was another indexer name simplynzb, they gave invites to users, even free users and were asking share invites in reddit (mostly torrent, indexer staff ban users for sharing invites on public forums like reddit), they collected money and disappear after few months, when they asked for this.
strategy they copied of nzbgeek, free to trial.
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Important Changes to NinjaCentral Accounts
Dear NinjaCentral Community,
We hope this message finds you well. We have an important update regarding our account policy, effective as of Black Friday.
Starting from Black Friday, we will no longer offer free accounts on our platform. Instead, we are introducing a 14-day trial period for new users. After the trial period ends, the account will be automatically disabled. Subsequently, the disabled accounts will be purged from our system. Users will need to wait until our site is open for registration or receive an invite to regain access.
We understand that this change may come as a surprise, and we'd like to provide some insight into the reasons behind it. While we prefer not to delve into specific details, we have encountered issues with users abusing our free account system, which has necessitated this adjustment.
Please note that any tickets created regarding a disabled free account will be closed without further action. However, if you believe you had a VIP account or have made a payment, we kindly request that you open a support ticket and include the relevant transaction details for verification purposes.
We appreciate your understanding and cooperation during this transition. We remain committed to providing you with the best possible experience on NinjaCentral. If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out to our support team.
Thank you for being a valued member of our community.
Sincerely,
The NinjaCentral Staff
That would reinforce my previous point in any case...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnWick
Also, if you're making a list of indexers where the decision to donate requires careful consideration, you can add Usenet Crawler to it.
crawler lifetime fee is nearly 1 year fee of ninja.
ninja content are from others indexers. not their own.
If those are pro-Crawler arguments, you should read a bit on their history :gsmile:
About ninja... They did "sort" of warn trials about that, but the site has many inconsistencies and they really want you to join Discord if you want up-to-date rudely answered information.
I understand their move o paid-only, and I do find stuff on Ninja that is nowhere else. My main focus is non-Hollywood movies and somehow su, Ninja and dog have found a bit more on that then the other indexers. Not much, but something. I will do a test in the next few months to check which indexers fills my needs better. If data comes out consistent or interesting, I wish to share it, but for now, my overall feeling is that for this use case Dog, Su and Ninja are sort of a triad.
Sooo, I left Crawler outside my crazy indexers basket! And they are so cheap, it was sort of a miscalculation of how much I should pay for it all and I ended up not having their money. Also they only accepted btc and that was a problem due to the high fee on that specific coin. I checked the site while it was just re-created, so I feel like I might have missed something on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
It red-flagged me for being reborn when I was researching and for being brought to life by VeryCouch, who also had an api indexer before migrating users back to crawler. I have to say Verycouch's admin nickname makes me uncomfortable. :confused:
But they seem fine and with a fair price at crawler's site.
I also read some changelog on their backup being restored...
Is the thing working good on your end?
What can you share as experience about them?
I'm not bashing Usenet Crawler, and they're a good indexer in their own right. But they've also gone through years of downtime, been breached once, changed owners, and now offer lifetime access for any donated amount until December 31st? You may want to keep that in mind before voting with your wallet (though as we can see from this thread, ultimately no one can guarantee eternal stability). Anyway, if you're feeling adventurous, they currently accept BTC, ETH, LTC and XMR processed through CoinPayments, and the minimum amount is 20 EUR.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbestran
Also, I'd like to invite former NinjaCentral free users or anyone else who's interested to register on FileSharingTalk (where I'm also staff) and see if it meets your needs.
It's probably because I don't spend much time on here. I say so because this would be the first time I've seen you mention FST in any capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
By the way, thanks for the wonderful forum, though I do miss the good old days with the... sniff! cough! matured crowd, then again it was a different era ;).
An update to this topic:
- NinjaCentral is again selling Lifetime plans. (for 150 Euros).
I advice against getting lifetime subscriptions to anything - NZB indexers, VPNs, IPTV or whatever. They're not sustainable on the long run, and you lose the ability to vote with your wallet, because if at any point the service becomes something you wouldn't pay for, it's too late... you already have.
Plus, in this particular case, we're talking about piracy sites that are accountable to no one and have a target on their backs. At any point they could be shut down by the authorities or just "quit while they're ahead" (with your money).
Well said on your points. I'd say, with open indexers, change your accounts from time to time to avoid history tracking too! (of course, if the indexer is ok with that, like let's say geek). Same goes to real-debrid, open-trackers seedboxes, or any other service that expires from time to time. It's a pain to reconfigure but it's better for when/if they are coerced (or bought) into giving up it's members details.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
Besides idealizing that, when they are cheap, I end up getting lifetime tough. (like althub and crawler cheap lifetime offers that costs as much as some other places 1 year sub), but I still prefer middle term discounts like 2years or something like that. Last black friday it was 12 moneys to get 2 years of Ninja. Preferable than paying for "their" lifetime.
The only other scenario where lifetime is better, is when they may possibly stop accepting privacy payment methods (gift cards, xmr)... In that case it's a gamble.
BTW, any lifetime signature to anything is a gamble. It's always "their lifetime" not "your lifetime".
In Dog's case, not even that!
Well, I can make an exception for cases like those where the price is low and the perks are more of a thank you gift for supporting the indexer at least once, rather than an incentive to "invest" on them. Other than that, the customer is always right... until he pays!Quote:
Originally Posted by sbestran
PS: "12 moneys" :lol:
Good advice on not buying lifetime stuff, I remember a friend was bragging when he had purchased a lifetime account on the original megaupload. We all know what happened later.
Well, your friend ended up paying for Kim Dotcom's lawyers, so he's an ally of justice.
I had one who bragged about the money he was making through Oxyshare's referral program before they packed up and evaporated without paying anyone... and I think our age is showing by namedropping these services :wtinfoil:
Wanna see a very worse example of what can happen? I believe you heard about this dark web market that went offline to than comeback to show it's sellers and buyers THIS:Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
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When PTP disappeared for some months before coming back, many people was afraid of something similar.
:wtinfoil: :wtinfoil: :wtinfoil:
Attachment is broken, and online black markets are good at returning, so I wouldn't know which particular incident you're referring to.
With that said, last year's PTP downtime wasn't their first, and some site functionality had been broken for months prior to that. It was mostly a wake-up call: the time, effort and money spent on buffing your account could go poof at any time with no refunds, folks. Oh, and don't forget to screenshot your profiles...
My bad trying to make the attach thumbnail larger using an img tag to the attach address, which didn't work. How to make the image larger? (yes I did search for how to do it, but didn't find)
I re-uploaded the image in from external source in case that was the problem too.
Check the image in my previous post, if you didn't know that infamous one already. It's one of the most "WTF?!" moments I've seen on this theme. I'm glad I never used such places.
Oh, also,I don't have the screenshot but I remember that when I captured this one it was from someone who also showed that this site even made a public list in the form of a table with the nick of people who had paid the ransom in green background and the ones who didn't in other color.
(EDIT: Here, I found it!)
Attachment 21757
It was really bizarre!
About PTP, I know they lived to show that they were ok and are still ok after that, I'm not comparing PTP with that horrendous thing I shared the screenshot of.
But the suspense during the downtime had some people pulling their hair off.
Create an album in your profile, upload there, then paste the image embedding code in your post. Anyway, who would have known cybercriminals weren't trustworthy! I'm suspending my plans to buy a little sister via Tor pending reevaluation :germm:Quote:
Originally Posted by sbestran
PTP however doesn't have much to extort with, since movie piracy isn't anywhere as serious or disgusting as what goes on in the dark Web. If the authorities look at a private tracker at all (public ones are just bigger and easier targets), they'll prefer prosecuting staff and maybe top uploaders over individual users (which isn't worth the effort in terms of time, money and PR). Besides, said staff would quickly get purged from any other trackers they're on for attempting this and no one would want to associate with them again... is what I wish I could say, but anyone for whom the names spektormax and pham ring a bell knows people care little and forget quickly.