Wanna buy a new laptop,.. So how r these babes?

LENOVO ESSENTIAL G505S (59-380146) LAPTOP (APU QUAD CORE A10/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2.5GB GRAPH) (MIDNIGHT BLACK)

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Features

Dimensions

Width 250 mm
Height 377 mm
Thickness 34 mm
Weight 2.6 kg
Processor

Processor APU Quad Core A10
Variant 5750M
Chipset A76M
Brand AMD
Clock Speed 2.5 GHz with Turbo Core Technology Upto 3.5 GHz
Cache 4 MB
Memory

Expandable Memory Upto 16 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 1)
System Memory 8 GB DDR3
Storage

RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
Optical Disk Drive

Optical Drive DVD RW Drive
Platform

Operating System Free DOS
System Architecture 64-bit
Display

Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Display
Graphics

Dedicated Graphics Memory Type GDDR3
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2.5 GB
Graphic Processor 512 MB AMD Radeon HD 8650G (Integrated) and 2 GB ATI Sunpro HD 8570 Graphics (Dedicated)
Input

Web Camera 0.3 Megapixel
Pointer Device Elan
Keyboard AccuType Keyboard
Audio

Speakers Yes
Sound Stereo Speakers, Dolby Advanced Audio
Communitcation

Ethernet 10/1000 LAN
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth v4.0
Power Management

Battery Backup Upto 4 hours
Power Supply 65 W AC Adapter
Battery Cell 4 cell
Ports/Slots

USB Port 1 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0
Mic In Yes
RJ45 LAN Yes
HDMI Port Yes
VGA Port Yes
Multi Card Slot 2-in-1 Card Reader

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HP Pavilion G6-2313AX Laptop (APU Quad Core A10/ 6GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2.5GB Graph)

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IN THE BOX
Sales Package Laptop, Battery, AC Adapter, User Guide and Manuals
GENERAL
Brand HP
Model Name Pavilion
Series G Series
Lifestyle Gaming
Color Imprint Sparkling Black
Model ID G6-2313AX
PROCESSOR
Processor APU Quad Core A10
Variant 4600M
Chipset A70M
Brand AMD
Clock Speed 2.3 GHz with Turbo Core Technology Upto 3.2 GHz
Cache 4 MB
MEMORY
Expandable Memory Upto 8 GB
Memory Slots 2 (Unused Slot - 0)
System Memory 6 GB DDR3
STORAGE
Hardware Interface SATA
RPM 5400
HDD Capacity 1 TB
OPTICAL DISK DRIVE
Read/Write Speed 8x
Optical Drive SuperMulti DVD RW Drive with Dual Layer Support
PLATFORM
Operating System Free DOS
DISPLAY
Screen Size 15.6 inch
Resolution 1366 x 768 Pixel
Screen Type HD Brightview Widescreen LED Backlit Display
GRAPHICS
Dedicated Graphics Memory Type DDR3
Dedicated Graphics Memory Capacity 2.5 GB
Graphic Processor 512 MB AMD Radeon HD 7660G (Integrated) and 2 GB ATI Mobility Radeon 7670M HD Graphics (Dedicated)
INPUT
Web Camera HP TrueVision HD Webcam
Pointer Device Touchpad
Keyboard Full-size Textured Island Keyboard
AUDIO
Internal Mic Digital Microphone
Speakers Altec Lansing Speakers
Sound HD Audio, Dolby Advanced Audio v2, Stereo Speakers
COMMUNICATION
Ethernet 10/100 LAN
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth v4.0
POWER
Battery Backup Upto 3 hours
Power Supply 65 W AC Adapter
Battery Cell 6 cell
PORTS/SLOTS
USB Port 1 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0
Mic In Yes
RJ45 LAN Yes
HDMI Port Yes, HDMI Port with HDCP Support
VGA Port Yes
Multi Card Slot Yes
SECURITY
Lock Port Kensington Lock Slot
MACHINE DIMENSIONS
Weight 2.47 kg
Dimension 376 x 244 x 36.3 mm
Color Imprint Sparkling Black
WARRANTY
Warranty Summary 1 Year Accidental Damage Protection (ADP)

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You want it for Gaming I think anyway I would recommend that you pick the one you like the most and that has the best hardware.

I prefer Lenova over HP any day. Both of them have pretty exquisite and similar configurations nowadays laptops are very powerful.

In my experience I would recommend you to choose the Lenovo over HP. (Both perform well but HP has $hitty overheating issues)

amd is power hungry compared to intel. I'd go with an icore for same performance and longer battery myself

The best advice that anyone can give is: if you want it for gaming, buy a DESKTOP!!
You will never get the same performance from a laptop over a computer, even the hardware is indentical.

Why this in mind...
Benchmarks say an APU will raise your FPS but only slightly and you'll only see benefit in games only. I highly doubt you will game 24/7 on this thing.

Can you give me a website from which you would like to purchase this laptop? Or sites, I'd like to see their offer and select from there and state your price range as well.

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Originally Posted by ParamouR

In my experience I would recommend you to choose the Lenovo over HP. (Both perform well but HP has $hitty overheating issues)

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I would never recommend anything from HP too, I have a couple of friends who suffered the same thing with their HP "gaming" notebooks, i.e., overheating has damaged their boards and no one could fix that.

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Originally Posted by Sazzy

amd is power hungry compared to intel.

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intel is costly :cry: I ain't got that much money.. :cry:

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Originally Posted by ParamouR

In my experience I would recommend you to choose the Lenovo over HP. (Both perform well but HP has $hitty overheating issues)

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Originally Posted by Alpacino

I would never recommend anything from HP too, I have a couple of friends who suffered the same thing with their HP "gaming" notebooks, i.e., overheating has damaged their boards and no one could fix that.

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Agree with u both there.. I have a HP too.. Even it has a heating issue n manufacturing defect.. Its good for nothing. Its 64 MB graphic card has major heating issue n i have power supply problems with it too... ITS A SHITBOX.. U don't want to know the things i have to bear.. Like webcam not working,cd rom not working, 1 usb port not working,card reader not working n sometimes wifi n bluetooth stops n i get msg one of the device stopped working n finally lan port has died recently . i've sent it for repair 2 times(power supply problem) .. i have enough of this shitty presario v3000 moronic series.. Funny thing is even nvidia admitted that its graphic card n chipset for this series is buggy n has a manufacting defect but yet no refunds or free repair to customers.. On top of that no drivers for win 8 or 7.. pathetic..
3 days back i was so frustrated that i punched it when wifi stopped so i kinda broke its body badly too. wifi started working though :lol: old school method still works :lol:

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Originally Posted by MasterRazor

The best advice that anyone can give is: if you want it for gaming, buy a DESKTOP!!

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Funny thing is i don;t play games that much .. besides i need portable stuff that i can carry so desktop is out of question though i agree with u that nothing beats a desktop

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Originally Posted by MasterRazor

Can you give me a website from which you would like to purchase this laptop? Or sites, I'd like to see their offer and select from there and state your price range as well.

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Yes that would be a really helpful bro. U rock. Here below r the sites..

Online Shopping India - Shop Online for Books, Mobile Phones, Digital Cameras, Watches & More at Flipkart.com

Online Shopping for Mobiles, Clothes, Shoes, Laptops, Appliances & More | Snapdeal.com

http://www.amazon.in/

Infibeam.com: Online Shopping for Mobiles, Books, Tablets, Gifts & more in India

Online Shopping: Buy Mobiles, Electronics, Cameras, Computers, Apparels & Jewellery Online

http://www.junglee.com

http://www.naaptol.com

The MAX Damage i can afford is 40,000 Rs

The best in that price range is the Lenovo G500s 59.
I've chose lenovo because they are not so big-branded as HP, Compaq etc. As such their prices are right.
What you get is:

• i3, dual-core 3110M
• 15.6 display with a max. of 1366x768 resolution
• HDD 1TB with 5400RPM
• 2GB RAM
• NVIDIA 720M 1GB
• 10/100 LAN
• 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0

The reason it is cheap is because you get:

• a 4-cell battery (nowadays we use a 6-cell) which reduces the capacity of the battery
• a 0.3MP webcam, nearly useless; do not use it.
• a 10/100MB network card (not 1000 which all laptops have nowadays)
• low ammount of RAM.

Bear in mind that you shouldn't not buy anoher module of RAM and upgrade it. The modules should be the same manufacturer and specs. Thus, you will need to replace your 2GB module with kit of 2 x 4GB. You will need to ask the store if you can upgrade the laptop under waranty.

You probably will not be able to set games to HIGH detail using this configuration. This config is basically "office and technical stuff + some gaming".

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

The best in that price range is the Lenovo G500s 59.
I've chose lenovo because they are not so big-branded as HP, Compaq etc. As such their prices are right.
What you get is:

• i3, dual-core 3110M
• 15.6 display with a max. of 1366x768 resolution
• HDD 1TB with 5400RPM
• 2GB RAM
• NVIDIA 720M 1GB
• 10/100 LAN
• 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0

The reason it is cheap is because you get:

• a 4-cell battery (nowadays we use a 6-cell) which reduces the capacity of the battery
• a 0.3MP webcam, nearly useless; do not use it.
• a 10/100MB network card (not 1000 which all laptops have nowadays)
• low ammount of RAM.

Bear in mind that you shouldn't not buy anoher module of RAM and upgrade it. The modules should be the same manufacturer and specs. Thus, you will need to replace your 2GB module with kit of 2 x 4GB. You will need to ask the store if you can upgrade the laptop under waranty.

You probably will not be able to set games to HIGH detail using this configuration. This config is basically "office and technical stuff + some gaming".

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Thnx alot mate..
What do u think about this one?
Lenovo Ideapad S510p (59-411351) Laptop (4th Gen Intel Core i3-8GB RAM-1TB HDD-15.6 Inch Screen-Windows 8.1- 2GB Graphics) (Black) - Buy Online @ Best Price | Snapdeal.com

Lenovo Ideapad S510p (59-411351) Laptop (4th Gen Intel Core i3-8GB RAM-1TB HDD-15.6 Inch Screen-Windows 8.1- 2GB Graphics) (Black) | Snapdeal.com

I u think that buying a laptop with more ram is not a big deal i'll buy the laptop u recommended.. I wanted more ram coz i won't b buying another laptop for the next 4 years.

1 more question is 4th gen i3 better than amd a10? whats d bog difference in terms of performance?

The laptop i recommended has 2GB of RAM but you'll buy a separate 2 x 4GB KIT and replace it yourself. It'll cost less than a laptop with 8GB.

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Lenovo Ideapad S510p (59-411351) Laptop (4th Gen Intel Core i3-8GB RAM-1TB HDD-15.6 Inch Screen-Windows 8.1- 2GB Graphics) (Black) | Snapdeal.com

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This an generation 4 i7. They cost more but offers no performance benefit over a 3rd generation.
Plus, if you run old games, applications on this 1.7Ghz i7, it'll be like a dual core.

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1 more question is 4th gen i3 better than amd a10? whats d bog difference in terms of performance?

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Intel CPU's are built specifically for office applications, rendering, editing etc. The AMD A10 is an APU: these contain a CPU and a GPU for faster game processing. You will notice an increase in fps in your games but your office applications will not benefit for any performance boost.

Checl out this model too

Shop Lenovo G500 (59-380754) Laptop (3rd Gen Intel Ci3/4GB/ 500GB/ DOS/ 2GB Graphics) Online - Shopclues

It costs only 32000 rs.. i'll buy more ram .. I'll have to compromise on 500 GB though but doesn;t matter coz i have 2 tb HDD plus 320 gb in other laptop

That NVIDIA 720M will beat the AMD 8570. They are both entry-level cards, performance is almost the same but the 720M will be slightly faster.
Compare yourself:
AMD Radeon HD 8570M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

That NVIDIA 720M will beat the AMD 8570. They are both entry-level cards, performance is almost the same but the 720M will be slightly faster.
Compare yourself:
AMD Radeon HD 8570M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

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So u mean for gaming Nvidia 1 gbb is better than 2 gb AMD raedon?
Here some links for comparison

AMD Radeon HD 8570M compare Nvidia GeForce GT 720M GPU

Radeon HD 8570 vs GeForce GT 720M

Ok specs aside just say i wanna play need for speed most wanted 2012. Which one will deliver better graphics?
That answer will be everything to me.. Can't wait for monday.. and a big thnx to u explaining everything to a noob like me.. I never know such things about harware in details..

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I never know such things about harware in details..

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Neither did I. A very good friend of mine hepled me understand these things too.

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need for speed most wanted 2012

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I say stick with my selection. I don't like the 8570 card; it has 64-bits. That is the most crappiest speed possible (this is also the reason you see video cards of 2GB with prices starting from 50$). NVIDIA has 128 if i'm not mistaken.
The game will work, no doubt about it, but you'll have to set the details to medium.

Hey MasterRazor .. Why is it that Amd's official site says 8570M has DDR5 memory where as site "Notebook check says its DDR3.. ?

ATI Mobility GPU

AMD Radeon HD 8570M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

In below comparison it also says its DDR5
AMD Radeon HD 8570M compare Nvidia GeForce GT 720M GPU


M lost...

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NVIDIA has 128 if i'm not mistaken.

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The notebookcheck site says 64 bit
Can u check again?

I think the actual ram in the notebook is ddr3 and the graphics card has ddr5.

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Originally Posted by Sazzy

I think the actual ram in the notebook is ddr3 and the graphics card has ddr5.

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actual ram is ddr3 but confusion is about graphic card..

razor's saying nvidia is 128 bit but his site says 64
amd's site says amd 8570m is ddr5 but razor's site says ddr3

m lost

i dont think they've made graphics cards with ddr3 for a few years now.. i would ignore that

okay guys so I have decied to go with MasterRazor's recommendation.. I'm buying Lenovo G500s (59-383022)

hey razor my man can u select a cheap and good 4 gb ddr3 ram for this laptop as well from the list of sites I've mentioned?

Check first if the store/manufacturer allows you to add more RAM to the laptop WITHOUT voiding warranty. In the past, there were such issues.
And tell me, why 4GB and 8GB?

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

Check first if the store/manufacturer allows you to add more RAM to the laptop WITHOUT voiding warranty. In the past, there were such issues.
And tell me, why 4GB and 8GB?

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well they allow to upgrade I think.. when I went to Lenovo showroom they told me if I wanna upgrade my ram they can do it.. so I guess warranty doesn't get void..

2 gb is less I gues that's why I wanted to add 4 gb more to 1 unsed slot

I'll call them in the morning and make sure of the warranty thingy

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1 unsed slot

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You don't use the available slot but both 2 slots. The memory they give you is crap, you will replace that with 2 new modules.

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

You don't use the available slot but both 2 slots. The memory they give you is crap, you will replace that with 2 new modules.

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okay then I'll buy 2x 4 gb ram.. just point me which ram module would b best

i personally always go for corsair.

Honesly, I don't know. Couldn't find any info on the laptop itself except that it has DDR3; but which type of DDR3? What frequency?
Off the top of my head, I would get 2 of these Transcend JetRam DDR3 4 GB Laptop RAM (JM1600KSN-4G) - Transcend: Flipkart.com

not bad either: Corsair DDR3 4 GB Laptop RAM (CMSO4GX3M1A1600C11) - Corsair: Flipkart.com

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

Honesly, I don't know. Couldn't find any info on the laptop itself except that it has DDR3; but which type of DDR3? What frequency?
Off the top of my head, I would get 2 of these Transcend JetRam DDR3 4 GB Laptop RAM (JM1600KSN-4G) - Transcend: Flipkart.com

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thnx alot man.. I appreciate the help. I'm glad I posted a thread in this community otherwise m sure I would've bought shit laptop

I ordered the laptop u suggested n ram set as well.. yayy. will post again when I'll recieve my baby

Just so everyone know.. My lappy arrived 4 days back. And yesterday i installed windows 8.1 as the driver CD was for windows 8.1.. Although i downloaded classic shell start button for windows 8.
I love this laptop .Its sleek n sexy and performance is awesome ..

A Big Thanx toMaster Razor

You have it install that RAM you bought? Working well?

Why have you installed Windows 8? You'll be much satisfied with Windows 7. Drivers should work with seven as well.

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

You have it install that RAM you bought? Working well?

Why have you installed Windows 8? You'll be much satisfied with Windows 7. Drivers should work with seven as well.

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No not yet.. Actually they mistakenly send the wrong ram. 1333mhz .. i ordered what u said transcend 1600 mhz.. i returned it.. It should come by next week.. Then i'll go to lenovo center n ask them to put it in :)

i already have 7 in old laptop besides i was not sure of the drivers .. I thought they won't work in 7. Well i have installed classic windows 7 button on 8 from here
www.classicshell.net/‎

Verify that your drives are working correctly in 7, and if everything works out OK use only 7.
That 7 button you are talking about will have to start with windows. That's another few CPU cycles and MB of RAM wasted for useless functionality.

A word of wisdom: Install only the drivers that you need. If you don't need USB 3.0 or WebCam, DO NOT INSTALL THEM as they will eat your resources.
This goes for every driver on their site. Even if it says SATA drivers, they are not needed.

Do not install other software from them, like benchmarks, fan control etc.

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

Verify that your drives are working correctly in 7, and if everything works out OK use only 7.
That 7 button you are talking about will have to start with windows. That's another few CPU cycles and MB of RAM wasted for useless functionality.

A word of wisdom: Install only the drivers that you need. If you don't need USB 3.0 or WebCam, DO NOT INSTALL THEM as they will eat your resources.
This goes for every driver on their site. Even if it says SATA drivers, they are not needed.

Do not install other software from them, like benchmarks, fan control etc.

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okay i will try this on 7 tomorow
Yea i didn't installed uncessary thing..
I've used installed intel n nvidia graphic driver,audio,chipset, card reader. That's it.. lan n wireless was working without driver so i skipped it. webcam driver was not needed too

Possibly relevant non-link: lite8 dot webnode dot com

I've been messing with 8 again recently and found a way to use the classic theme (details available upon request), so I was this close to upgrading... sadly the ugly hack that involves breaks anything related to the Logon UI. Guess I'll wait for Windows 9, duh.

And when you install 7 (if you do) be sure to turn off automatyic updates and apply only this Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution.
No bloat just critical and security patches are included. Much faster than WU.

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Originally Posted by Master Razor

And when you install 7 (if you do) be sure to turn off automatyic updates and apply only this Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution.
No bloat just critical and security patches are included. Much faster than WU.

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it seems like i can't install windows 7 on this one.. Pen drive didn't boot... I tried to run setup in windows. It showed error.. Tried with DVD same problem
i can't even find bios setting on this one

You may need to change the system operation mode from UEFI to Legacy BIOS, depending on how you created the flash drive.

The BIOS can usually be accessed by pressing Del or F2 when the startup logo appears, try hitting either of those keys repeatedly after turning the computer on.

Some newer notebooks have a special key, usually next to the power button, which takes you to the recovery menu when pressed during boot time. In this menu you can select to boot from another device and or enter recovery options.

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Originally Posted by alpacino

Some newer notebooks have a special key, usually next to the power button, which takes you to the recovery menu when pressed during boot time. In this menu you can select to boot from another device and or enter recovery options.

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My god u're such a life saver.. Yes it has a recovery button next to power button.. I'll check it in the morning n will let u know :D

@anon - yea m aware of that i tried everything already but all failed . I think pacino's Thingy will work

I saw a lot of people opting for A10 laptops, my I know what's your reason behind it ?

SO so everyone know i failed to get into bios even with recovery key.. When i made partitions recovery was gone..
So i found a new way to get into BIOS. In windows 8 . Go to Setting - Change PC setings - UPdate and recovery - Recovery - Advance Startup and click restart now

When u restart three options will appear choose troubleshoot - UEFI settings and click restart

Then u will enter in BIOS
i tried to install Windows 7 but error occured
So i gathered some info on downgrading it was related to secure BOOT.. U have to disable secure boot
Althought this option is not present in my laptop
So I changed BOOT MODE to LEGACY SUPPORT
And BOOT PRIORITY TO LEGACY FIRST

and voila now i can install windows 7.. no error came
but thing is if i install it now how will i enter in BIOS again? coz windows 7 doesn't have the update and recovery option..

So i searched and found this Tool called "Lenovo OneKey Recovery 7.0 Engineering" . its what they use in service centres..SO anyone knows about it?