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Enjoy.. Let me know hows the performance.. is it any better than 7.. If performance wise it is better . I'll switch to 10 otherwise 7 it is
What he ... happend to windows 9? Man, I think i've slept the last 2 years:klatsch_3:
As long as the interface keeps on being designed with tablets in mind, it won't be better than 7, I'm afraid.
I will detect your system if it's a desktop with a mouse and keyboard then :Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
- just a Desktop whole system with the classic start menu.
- you can run modern apps in desktop with a classic title bar.
If your system has a touch screen:
- Start screen will be your system navigation choice.
- modern apps will run full screen with the ability to open more than one modern app at the same time.
Tablet will use a whole different design which will be kind of hybrid interface.
- windows 10 has a kernel version of 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Razor
- number 9 is a bad number in Japan (nokia doesn't include a mobile series 4xxx because it's a bad number in India)
Well, that sounds good :gcreepy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
the tech preview seems to be quite nosey
Using the Windows 10 Technical Preview? Microsoft might be watching your every move to help with feedback
It's not a hidden thing microsoft says so from the first day, they said we watch everything besides your feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instab
It's already mentioned in the w10 terms and they said so in the last presentation of w10 announcement.
They asked the users not to setup this preview on the every day use PCs also.
Almost every site talked about this it say it in a way as they discover it !!
That's why I set my VirtualBox network adapter to "not attached" :ninja:
All in all, it seems to be Windows 8 with a fuckered Start menu, and the forced font smoothing is still there (do you think they'll fix it if I complain a lot?).
- Facts: Desktop part and kernel are both _a lot_ better in win8 than in win7. I hate working on my win7 workstation at work.
- Facts: Metro does indeed suck, but you can manage it in such a way you see it only 5 seconds, right after startup!
- Facts: Win10 is an improvement on W8 since they've listened to the hatred about Win8's tiles
- Facts: The tiles are actually quite nice once you've finally gotten used to them. Too bad it was forced, though.
- Facts: I never used the start menu anyway. That thing was a mess and the metro start menu still is. And it will still be a mess in win10, 11 and 12 because people refuse to adjust to anything new. Launchy all the way. In win8, the search feature on the metro start menu actually beat launchy in usefulness and is now my main start feature.
- Facts: Nosey tech previews are good. We want to give as much issues as we can back to MS so they can fix it before it's final.
- Facts: You're not allowed to bitch about those things since it's a tech preview, it's public and it's free :P
- Facts: They're actually quite open about it like Lucius said
- Facts: Most people probably shouldn't be running a tech preview anyway.
- Facts: Tech previews are not suitable for main os, only as a preview, seeing if the feel suits you and mainly to squash bugs.
Glad to clear out common misunderstandings! :lol:
@Sazzy : I love my Lumia phone alot which is a windows phone powered device and I love its faboluse start screen and those lovely live tiles which save my a lot and a lot of time.
I have tried win 8 on regular system and microsoft surface (not pro version but still winRT has the same UX) and I was like .. Wow win8's start screen design on touch screen was damn good and fast.
I really love live tiles and start screen so I will be glad if ms let's it there as option for those win8 lovers (believe me they are a lot :)).
Just let people get their start menu back with the ability to run metro (modern) apps into desktop mode (win 10 will have multi desktop) and every one will be totally happy.
In short no one tried here? damn i gues i'll have to download it ...
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Originally Posted by Lucius
I'm sure it will stay. It will most likely just be configurable. (With or without hackey ways like tools or reghacks)
Honestly, I'm pretty annoyed the fake startbutton was added in 8.1. I prefered it when there was none. I hope I can turn that shit off again and go back to pressing windows key + typing. It fills up a spot on an already short taskbar (screen is in portrait mode)
Honestly, win8's start screen is not horrible, but it's far from ideal for usage with a mouse. The only reason mine's usuable is because i keep it clean as fuck, unlike most people. It gets cluttered fast and then it's easy to understand why people hate it.
Newer laptops that come with an additional touch screen are kinda nice, though.
tech previews are a bit too hacky to install, imho. A beta or even an RC is more enjoyable. (even though win8 was very usable already in tech preview)Quote:
Originally Posted by hellman
I've read what's changed, and it's mostly solving what people have been bitching about in win8.
the console improvements are nice, but it's still shit compared to linux and os x. Cmder is probably still the better choice so far.
stick to 7 guys.. 10 sucks too (in performance) :D
You mean that very early Alpha preview ?! :D , yes we already know because it's mainly for developers :top:Quote:
Originally Posted by hellman
I'm waiting for the final in Jan 2015.
Performance under 8 was actually better than 7's for me - one of the reasons I resent the font smoothing and forced Aero all the more.
It's not just that. Win8 kernel just requires less than Win7. It works better and requires less resources. Not sure why you wouldn't want that!Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
It does help, though. But if you turned off aero on both, win8 still wins.
besides imagine have your favorite apps across your PC, tablet, Xbox and your phone either .. just the same app acroos all of this devices .. for me .. it's really win guys :top:
That's already possible if you have an android : > (Yaaay android ! )Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
I don't want to have this very long argument about android, My job is very specific to mobile field and believe me you don't want to trigger me to start talking about how bad android is or how much it is insecure .. totally insecure - if I can say - operating system !Quote:
Originally Posted by Sazzy
I don't see just one advantage of this calling android thing doesn't exist in iOS or WP either !
Sorry for the off-topic .
[Edit]
Are you talking about the hack that run apks in chrome ?
stuff's only as insecure as you make it.
ios -> tells you what to like. you're not allowed to like anything else. lacks customization
wp -> apps always get released last. not many apps available in comparison and most aren't made very well. the os itself is wonderful, but lacks customization and hops behind due to unpopular compared to the other two.
android -> easier to fuck up when you do stupid stuff with it, but highly customizable. tired of your home screen? install a new one. no updates for your phone? make your own!
win8 -> skype is the only app that doesnt suck, and it offers 1/3 of the functions the normal desktop app has. no reason to use.
Honestly, things like being able to adjust my wakelocks for my gps so my battery lasts about 3 times as long with gps turned on 24/7 is pretty damn amazing and a huge advantage. Things like that is something i require of my phone.
Maybe the minute tasker gets available on ios and wp i'll reconsider :P
It's a hack for now since it's a port from Chrome OS which is officially supported by Google. Once they finish it up, it's only a matter of time for chrome on win/mac/linux supports apk's officially as well.
It's not a rule at all, when you use an app which is spies on you and send all your info secretly, you didn't make it at all it's when it's all about.Quote:
stuff's only as insecure as you make it.
Customization is not always a good thing, it has disadvantages more than its advantages. android has just one concept (everything goes) that's what customization is about. being a very wide open device which give the hacker to get it by just one click (or tap! :D).Quote:
ios -> tells you what to like. you're not allowed to like anything else. lacks customization
So true about the lack of the apps but i think the gap getting closed (existing not quality).Quote:
wp -> apps always get released last. not many apps available in comparison and most aren't made very well. the os itself is wonderful, but lacks customization and hops behind due to unpopular compared to the other two.
Just ask yourself one simple questions.Quote:
android -> easier to fuck up when you do stupid stuff with it, but highly customizable. tired of your home screen? install a new one. no updates for your phone? make your own!
why google made android to be that very wide open ?
why google doesn't review ANY of the apps that get released to play store ? (apps that doing bitcoin mining exist in play store right now .. oh come on !!)
You know that one app got rejected by Microsoft because the developer was using a white fixed-color text ?
because simply wp has two themes .. Light and dark , if the user uses the light theme the background being white thus this line of text won't appeared for the users who use the light theme ! .. now this company IS care about their consumers!
Really ?! Am I supposed to do my phone updates ?!! come one, my lumia 520 which is 90$ had about 6 major system update so far !!Quote:
no updates for your phone? make your own!
I just looking for a stable OS and stable device because mainly it's mobile phone not a PSP ! I'm looking for a device that doesn't hang (at all), I don't want to format it weekly to get its health back again (even without virus infection or whatever), when I need it I want it to be wake and responsive.Quote:
Honestly, things like being able to adjust my wakelocks for my gps so my battery lasts about 3 times as long with gps turned on 24/7 is pretty damn amazing and a huge advantage. Things like that is something i require of my phone.
Maybe the minute tasker gets available on ios and wp i'll reconsider
who cares about facebook app when I have to format my phone weekly or monthly and has to be recharged twice a day !!
Goof luck for google die trying (and will) hacking our PCs also with thier shit-droid's apks !Quote:
It's a hack for now since it's a port from Chrome OS which is officially supported by Google. Once they finish it up, it's only a matter of time for chrome on win/mac/linux supports apk's officially as well.
I told you not to trigger me :D
That goes for WP and iOS as well :) google actually has pretty decent checkups on their app store, and have now added a policy where you need to give out your actual address before you're allowed to post an app.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
These apps get disallowed before they reach the store, or very quickly get pruned.
"More" depends on what you need. I had an iphone for two years. I was sick of the home screen after 6 months. I get bored too fast when not being able to customize. last point still goes, stuff is only as insecure as you make it. if you don't install apps you dont trust, chances are you'll be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
If anything, all of the last android updates have been partly about security. When running something like cyanogen, you can easily even adjust which apps get which abilities. If I decide at any point I no longer want facebook to be able to use my gps, I can just block it. I have not seen this functionality on any other platform.
Yep. Android has a lot of shit apps as well though. But the overal WP quality is just horrible. If only all 3 platforms had the iOS apps standard of quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
Except Google didn't even make android. They bought it from another company and just worked on that base. It was open before google even knew it was alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
Android is just linux, you know... It runs on a basic linux kernel with a java virtual machine on top.
Is linux insecure then as well :) ? Come to think of it, linux is quite customizable as well.... ;-)
You're not supposed to. My point is that you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
That's weird, WP only has had 2 major updates so far :) (e.g. 8.1 and then the one where tiles could have a background).
I'm talking about the period when a phone gets old enough to lose support. The 520 won't get updates forever. At least you can flash an android when that happens.
My android is super stable and runs on a custom rom even. When it was running on stock, stability was even better. It never hangs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
I've formatted it twice and that was because I switched roms. (to get rid of leftovers)
It's always responsive.
I'm not sure who put these lies in your head. This is not android at all. :)
Good luck trying to stay under their radar without even having an android..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
While Google might be considered 'evil', it's not exactly facebook and they're open about what they do (they're an ad agency!)
You can easily check up on what kind of info they've gathered about you on their page.
Honestly, their services are so useful, it would suck having to go without them. (keep, music, gmail, youtube, maps, docs, ....)
You're not getting off that easy ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucius
As a side-note, I believe privacy etc has died years ago. It's not a good thing, it's sad, but it's still just a fact.
I don't use any Google services, yet somehow, life goes on. I also *SPOILER ALERT* don't use a mobile phone either. But granted, none of that will work for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sazzy
Are you sure about that ?! :D , it hasn't .. believe me .. their check is terrible.Quote:
That goes for WP and iOS as well :) google actually has pretty decent checkups on their app store
My example of the bitcoin mining app still in the store for a very long time and for sure it has passed the checkup and by the way .. it has been reported and I don't know if it's got deleted.Quote:
These apps get disallowed before they reach the store, or very quickly get pruned.
wp's start screen is so unique and customizable by the way.Quote:
"More" depends on what you need. I had an iphone for two years. I was sick of the home screen after 6 months. I get bored too fast when not being able to customize.
That's if you got any indeed :D , when you're talking about mid-range device you will get just one (if you) update.Quote:
If anything, all of the last android updates have been partly about security.
It's in windows phone from day one.Quote:
I have not seen this functionality on any other platform.
which could be a system one also.Quote:
Yep. Android has a lot of shit apps as well though.
I second those words.Quote:
But the overal WP quality is just horrible. If only all 3 platforms had the iOS apps standard of quality.
:)Quote:
That's weird, WP only has had 2 major updates so far :) (e.g. 8.1 and then the one where tiles could have a background).
Look to be honest it's not that major but it was like jumping so I consider it (for android ones) major updates.
there is 7.5, 7.8, 8.0 (520 released on this) , 8.0 GDR1, 8.0 GDR2, 8.0 GDR3, 8.1, 8.1 GDR1 so far :D
You're not a casual user Saz ! , you have enough information to know HOW to use an operating system and keep it healthy to be usable.Quote:
My android is super stable and runs on a custom rom even. When it was running on stock, stability was even better. It never hangs.
I've formatted it twice and that was because I switched roms. (to get rid of leftovers)
It's always responsive.
Look I work with mobile phones everyday .. you don't imagine how many devices I have to format it every single day to make it usable ! because of bad usage of course .. But in comparison to the wp devices which is immune to the damn hard and stupid user :D because the system is really hard and rare to get stuck.
My work :DQuote:
I'm not sure who put these lies in your head. This is not android at all. :)
I try to make it harder :DQuote:
Good luck trying to stay under their radar without even having an android..
:top:Quote:
While Google might be considered 'evil', it's not exactly facebook and they're open about what they do (they're an ad agency!)
You can easily check up on what kind of info they've gathered about you on their page.
Look, no one could say that Google services is bad or not useful (although half -or more- has been bought :D) but microsoft also has great alternatives and you are not forced to stuck with android to use youtube for example !Quote:
Honestly, their services are so useful, it would suck having to go without them. (keep, music, gmail, youtube, maps, docs, ....)
I have a better app on wp for gmail than the one on android and it's faster by the way :D :P
You're not the easy person in discussions :DQuote:
You're not getting off that easy ;-)
I second :top: but we have to keep trying ;)Quote:
As a side-note, I believe privacy etc has died years ago. It's not a good thing, it's sad, but it's still just a fact
OMG! Until now I thought I was the sole of my specie on the earth !!Quote:
Originally Posted by anon
I'm guessing you can also relate to the intense wish for having a GSM signal jammer or portable EMP generator every time family and friends use their mobiles on an extremely absorbent and irresponsible manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renk
The former device costs half of what I make on one month, but damn it, I've been this close to buying one many times.