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    IPTorrents soon to ban all Vuze/Azureus versions

    I just stumbled upon this at iptorrents home section:

    2009-09-23 - Clients

    Banned Torrent Clients

    Dear Members,

    Following the recent upgrade to our new source code, the following torrent clients are now banned.


    ABC
    All BitComet up to v5.x
    Bitbuddy
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    Not recommended

    We do not Recommend Azureus/Vuze at all and very soon Azureus/Vuze will be banned at IPT ( all versions ) ! ! !

    UTorrent 1.7.7 - Several other trackers have banned this client for reporting bad data to the tracker.
    please avoid this version - it may lead to problems for you if we have to ban it.

    Beta versions may appear on this list as tested, but they are not recommended,
    if you use a beta version and your stats are not updated properly then dont complain to us.
    Stick with the tried and trusted releases and you should not have any problems.


    This message will be updated as and when other torrents clients are added to either of the lists.
    We still have the ability to use client spoofing, so I guess it's not a major issue.
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    i also heard news that...tt & also leecherlair & some more sites gonna ban vuze coz it shows abt to 12000 peers when a user downloading torrent 4m vuze..means site got alot..prob with it...
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    Hehe.I don't care about it because i use utorrent+waffles method, but banning a client because you can cheat with it is stupid.I understand banning bitcomet, but Vuze....
    Give me a break
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebestofme13 View Post
    i also heard news that...tt & also leecherlair & some more sites gonna ban vuze
    LL already banned Vuze due to "excessive scrape requests"
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    thats bull imho,
    vuze is my choice at the moment.
    is μtorrent + waffles as intelligent and subtle as the vuze mod?
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    is μtorrent + waffles
    Well, uTorrent Multi mods don't work at Waffles. If you mean RM with uTorrent emulation and the Waffles method, then yes
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    Scrape Verification

    Can anyone do a little research and get the scrape results for any valid scrape request from that site? I'd love to know if they are actually including the "min_request_interval" key in their results, which Azureus has been obeying since 2005. Scrape - AzureusWiki
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    that site?
    You mean LL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    You mean LL?
    If both of them are claiming excessive scrape results as the reason, then scrape results from both of them would be nice.

    Obviously, if they are missing the min_request_interval key, they didn't try very hard before banning. :) Sometimes I've seen min_request_interval in the wrong part of the response tree. Other times I've seen the value in minutes instead of seconds (ie. the response returns 120, the tracker owner thinks that's 2 hours, and Azureus scrapes 2 minutes later).
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    I'm not at IPT, but this was the reason LL gave for banning Vuze:
    Ok Vuze Ban....and reason as to the ban

    1,200 peers using Vuze - - Results of hit's to site in time frame 25,000 announces/scrape calls

    10,000 peers using Utorrent - -Resulte of hits to site in same time frame 5000 announce/scrape call

    As can be seen Vuze traffic was 5 times higher than that of Utorrent with only a 12% the users of utorrent ??????
    I'll supply you with caps, hold on.

    ---------- Post added at 16:51 ---------- Previous post was at 16:45 ----------

    Here's a scrape result from LL:

    Code:
    GET /scrape.php?passkey=********************************&info_hash=%af%1b%22%dcf%96W%a9%3d%de%8aQ%0ay%9d%bc%cf%1c%a1%5d HTTP/1.1
    Host: www.llywot.com
    User-Agent: uTorrent/1840(16442)
    
    
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:47:36 GMT
    Server: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
    X-Powered-By: PHP/5.1.6
    Content-Length: 87
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: text/plain
    
    d5:filesd20:..".f.W.=..Q
    y.....]d8:completei572e10:downloadedi1188e10:incompletei56eeee
    Seems they didn't try hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    1,200 peers using Vuze - - Results of hit's to site in time frame 25,000 announces/scrape calls

    10,000 peers using Utorrent - -Resulte of hits to site in same time frame 5000 announce/scrape call
    it's absolutly true...vuze announces depending on the seeder/leecher stats.

    e.g. you have a torrent with only one seeder.
    vuze would override the default announce time (30minutes), and would send every ~5 minutes a new announce
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostfucker View Post
    it's absolutly true...vuze announces depending on the seeder/leecher stats.

    e.g. you have a torrent with only one seeder.
    vuze would override the default announce time (30minutes), and would send every ~5 minutes a new announce
    Indeed, Azureus will adjust the suggested interval that the tracker sends back (the 'interval' field, and in my experience it often adjusts it upwards), but it should never go below the minimal interval that the tracker sends back (the 'min interval' field). Since 'min interval' is optional, not all trackers return it. BitTorrentSpecification - TheoryOrg

    So, I guess my second request is to see announce results for these trackers as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxPaper View Post
    Since 'min interval' is optional, not all trackers return it.
    that's the problem. only a few of the private trackers send a min_intervall (and i am sure, ipt isn't one of them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxPaper View Post
    So, I guess my second request is to see announce results for these trackers as well.
    Sorry for the delay, I was burning some DVDs. I have PMed you LL's reply - they don't respect &compact=1, so peer IPs are sent in a human-readable format.
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    MPD has also banned all Azureus/Vuze versions.
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