Release Date: January 11, 2013 (3D/2D theaters)
Studio: Paramount Pictures
Director: Tommy Wirkola
Screenwriter: Dante Harper, Tommy Wirkola
Starring: Jeremy Renner, Gemma Arterton, Famke Janssen, Peter Stormare, Derek Mears, Thomas Mann
Genre: Action, Comedy, Horror, Thriller
"Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters" takes place 15 years after the siblings' incident at the gingerbread house. The two are now specialized bounty hunters looking to put down the cackling black-hat set.
The action looks good but I am going to hold my opinion on this film's potential success....or...er......failure.
"God, from the mount Sinai
whose grey top shall tremble,
He descending, will Himself,
in thunder, lightning, and loud trumpet’s sound,
ordain them laws".
John Milton (1608-1674) in Paradise Lost
Ripley'sSealLion's Believe it or Not! ~ NASCAR car crashes and Windows have just one thing in common.
Oh, oh. Better use LINUX.
I say it's gonna be more of a failure than a success!
Ya. That's more or less what I was thinking too earlier. It goes from a children's fairy tale to one that is above that with all the blood and gore surrounding a movie like this one. The children's aspect has been completely eliminated and replaced one with violent overtones, demonism, and, I can not say for sure, but perhaps some sexual overtones thrown in for good measure. Nothing new from the filming industry I guess. Throw something out there and make the biggest buck you can, I guess.
"God, from the mount Sinai
whose grey top shall tremble,
He descending, will Himself,
in thunder, lightning, and loud trumpet’s sound,
ordain them laws".
John Milton (1608-1674) in Paradise Lost
Ripley'sSealLion's Believe it or Not! ~ NASCAR car crashes and Windows have just one thing in common.
Oh, oh. Better use LINUX.
I only feel sorry for the main actors. Like them both!
wow, what garbage, seems these adaptations are getting ever more silly/amateurish/ridiculous, not only have they run out of ideas, it seems no one bothers to even make it at least bearable/decent anymore
they just wanted the fairytale to be the familiar bait, the rest is a combination of scenes/scenarios taken from other related movies from the fantasy genre, its as redundant/generic as it getsOriginally Posted by SealLion
the 'original' tales were pretty nasty regarding their contents, though it was useful for educational purposes (tough times require and 'create' tough children, in our times you get emo's, sheep & such in much greater numbers) - in 'modern' times they got softened up to the point of losing their original purpose (naturally, no adequate substitutes have been developed), they got transformed into melodramatic/saccharine almost-brainless entertainment - the violence is mostly stuff one watches on tv/movies and when it actually happens in reality, many just don't know how to handle it (or worse, copy the tv role-models), get all traumatized and whatnot, wasting years on psychological 'treatment', filling the pockets of an intentionally incompetent industry (medical/pharmaceutical/psychiatric/...) - the point is to raise children to be able & prepared for every aspect of life, not sending them out like some helpless/incompetent n00bs or fodder to end up being at the mercy of anyone that might try/dare overstepping his/her bounds
well, no one forced them to be a part of this abomination, so...
I definitly disagree with the original tales being nasty. I do agree with you on the idea of a fairy tale to be of some educational value. In the original tale of Hansel and Gretel, I don't ever recall reading about blood and gore spilling down to the ground and all of a sudden out of someone's imagination, some demon pops up out of the ground ( whether that happens in this film or not, I don't know. But it was added to make a point on this evolution of violence from original fairy tale to the big screen) I also don't recall witches stabbing little kids and doing whatnot with them, giving a true shock and horror experience to kids having to listen to these fairy tales from their grandparents telling them these stories ( If such an idea is what your trying to say as I'm none too sure momentarily).
The only thing I recall about Hansel and Gretel is about 2 young kids in the woods, finding some house made of edibles, and them both being placed in a cage before they were to be eaten by this witch. The idea of cannibalism may have been expressed but it was never actually fulfilled as the shock and horror experience for the times that this tale was initially written, in would have been expressed as going 'overboard', for lack of a better expression at the moment. Better yet, since the story was written in the 1800, such ideas would not necessarily have been expressed due to the idea of it being a form of inappropriate communication towards kids, perhaps. Why fill young kid's minds at the time with blood and gore and themes of satisfying one's taste for horror, death, violence to inundate people's minds that violence is the norm somehow? In my mind, such nastiness (as told in the original fairy tales) is pretty tame compared to what we see on film nowadays, wouldn't you agree??
It was a different era with different ideas of expressing and communicating ideals as equally as morals were also differently expressed in comparison to today. You didn't see poster boards of naked women in those days as you do now. Pornography is pretty much everywhere. Here, there, everywhere. In those days, you didn't have such ideas plastered left and right everywhere you go. So, if we could momentarily make a comparison between the nastiness given in the original tales to the nastiness of today's films, I would definitly disagree that idea.
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EDIT: I think I might know what your talking about. If your saying that some of the original fairy tales such as this one, which brings up the issue of cannabalism and that idea itself is somewhat considered a taboo behavior amongst human beings, then yes I would agree with you that, that idea (canabalism) is a fairly nasty idea and would be considered revolting more or less.
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"God, from the mount Sinai
whose grey top shall tremble,
He descending, will Himself,
in thunder, lightning, and loud trumpet’s sound,
ordain them laws".
John Milton (1608-1674) in Paradise Lost
Ripley'sSealLion's Believe it or Not! ~ NASCAR car crashes and Windows have just one thing in common.
Oh, oh. Better use LINUX.
@SealLion:
check this out:I definitly disagree with the original tales being nasty.
there are many other more or less nasty things (other than cannibalism) mentioned or at least touched upon in this particular tale, like:Code:http://listverse.com/2009/01/06/9-gruesome-fairy-tale-origins/
- the concepts of death by starvation, death by fire, fighting for survival, slavery, murder, suffering
- parents planning & abandoning their children, leaving them to die in the wilderness, as opposed to the 'through thick and thin' way (winner in the end)
- deceptive behavior, 'looks can be deceiving' & dangerous strangers, greed, exploitation
- celebration of patriarchate (mother or stepmother as the heartless villain, that dies in the end), patriarch with a soft heart
- the concept of & condemnation of witchery (related to witch-hunt)
it may be argued that nastiness in the tales had a larger initial impact (had to be imagined, no one knew how it looks like, was told to little children, it had realistic scenarios,...) as opposed to a cartoonish depiction in the movies (can be seen and laughed at, familiar horror movies, for older audience, unrealistic scenarios thus of lesser impact,...), however this impact was occasional (when the stories were told) and lesser over time (repeating the same stories), whereas nowadays the violence is relentlessly & excessively pouring from every media source available (tv, movies, news,...), coming in various forms and shapes, and even though its mostly not physically tangible, the excess definitely adversely affects the human psyche/stateBut it was added to make a point on this evolution of violence from original fairy tale to the big screen
most of these stories are based on (other) older ones or made from their elements, these 'writers' were mostly collectors & editors, changing the 'original' stories according to their own worldview (or that of the particular era)since the story was written in the 1800
those times were less 'politically correct', more oriented towards the 'realistic'/practical, less tolerant of weakness(es), lessons had to be learned, there was no time or willingness to fool/play around or wait for the children to get in the mood for learning, etc.such ideas would not necessarily have been expressed due to the idea of it being a form of inappropriate communication towards kids
no, to teach or warn them (children, that is) about such occurrencesto inundate people's minds that violence is the norm somehow?
yes, that is being done intentionally, counting on people to lose control over themselves and become slaves of their desires/ego's (regarding whatever is being offered/sold/preached/..., including pr0n) - those that often/constantly run after meaningless/worthless things tend to lose or shift their focus, they eventually forget about whats really important, becoming disoriented mindless drones, in fact, the times we live in are a testament to this natural occurrencePornography is pretty much everywhere.
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