mike
16.11.08, 19:46
Since the arrest of Alan Ellis of the late and great OiNK.cd and admins of other respected sites, I've been thinking about it and talking to a lot of people about the topic of piracy and torrent trackers.
What makes downloading a movie for personal use, different from a friend or family member making a copy from a store bought original for you? Same with music. Other than the fact that downloading is easier to track. I know piracy is stealing, because it's intellectual property and can be a federal offense.
There are a lot of musicians out there that say piracy takes away money from their pockets, but don't they get enough from the sale of concert tickets an clothes? Real musicians care more about their art than the money. Some people I know make shirts with a bands logo, an exact copy of a shirt that is sold through a store and doesn't get any trouble from it. Wouldn't that be almost the same as making a copy of a dvd or cd?
I fully agree with what Alan Ellis said during an interview after his arrest. "My site is no different to something like Google. If Google directed someone to a site they can illegally download music they are doing the same as what I have been accused of." Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and many other search engines direct people to ways that they can download content, but it's the admins of torrent trackers who get all the "fun" of the law.
To me, piracy can't be completely stopped. There are so many users on the internet that won't let that happen. Perfect example of that, Oink gets shut down and a new tracker going online the next day. You can shut one of us down but you can't shut all of us down.
These are just some thoughts that a few friends and I share. I would love to hear everyone's opinion on this topic.
c&p from another forum
Oink founder: We're just like Google - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567246/Oink-founder-We%27re-just-like-Google.html)
An old but interesting and contentious topic for discussion, one that has many levels I think. Personally im comfortable sharing what I have (things that I have paid for :wink:). The authorities screaming foul would have us believe that their companies are suffering (financially of course) and that the artists are being deprived of their fair cut. Well I haven't heard or read of any of these companies going under yet and the artists I suggest are probably still better off than many people.... I could go on and on but what do you think? :eek13:
What makes downloading a movie for personal use, different from a friend or family member making a copy from a store bought original for you? Same with music. Other than the fact that downloading is easier to track. I know piracy is stealing, because it's intellectual property and can be a federal offense.
There are a lot of musicians out there that say piracy takes away money from their pockets, but don't they get enough from the sale of concert tickets an clothes? Real musicians care more about their art than the money. Some people I know make shirts with a bands logo, an exact copy of a shirt that is sold through a store and doesn't get any trouble from it. Wouldn't that be almost the same as making a copy of a dvd or cd?
I fully agree with what Alan Ellis said during an interview after his arrest. "My site is no different to something like Google. If Google directed someone to a site they can illegally download music they are doing the same as what I have been accused of." Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and many other search engines direct people to ways that they can download content, but it's the admins of torrent trackers who get all the "fun" of the law.
To me, piracy can't be completely stopped. There are so many users on the internet that won't let that happen. Perfect example of that, Oink gets shut down and a new tracker going online the next day. You can shut one of us down but you can't shut all of us down.
These are just some thoughts that a few friends and I share. I would love to hear everyone's opinion on this topic.
c&p from another forum
Oink founder: We're just like Google - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567246/Oink-founder-We%27re-just-like-Google.html)
An old but interesting and contentious topic for discussion, one that has many levels I think. Personally im comfortable sharing what I have (things that I have paid for :wink:). The authorities screaming foul would have us believe that their companies are suffering (financially of course) and that the artists are being deprived of their fair cut. Well I haven't heard or read of any of these companies going under yet and the artists I suggest are probably still better off than many people.... I could go on and on but what do you think? :eek13: