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DigitalDJ
22.01.19, 15:55
SB-Innovation Presents

BiglyBT Extreme Mod by SB-Innovation 1.8.0.0 Beta

https://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=3630

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Coded by:
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>>>>>> DigitalDJ & ghostfucker <<<<<<


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Credits:
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>>>>>> Butcho <<<<<<
>>>>>> Rebound <<<<<<
>>>>>> hitman <<<<<<
>>>>>> Manas <<<<<<
>>>>>> eudora <<<<<<
>>>>>> ghostfucker <<<<<<
>>>>>> anon <<<<<<
>>>>>> Instab <<<<<<
>>>>>> cloud99 <<<<<<
>>>>>> illusive <<<<<<
>>>>>> molosse <<<<<<

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Supplied by:
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>>>>>> SB-Innovation <<<<<<

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Original Mod by:
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>>>>>> Shu <<<<<<


Change Log:

+ ProLeech

+ Perfect Spoof 2

+ uTorrent ID Generator

+ Modifiable Client Files

+ Ghostleech

+ LTEP Fixes

+ Multiple peerlist entries fixed

+ More No Report Options

+ Perfect Spoof 1.0 by ghostfucker

+ (Fake Upload) Stop faking when swarm speed is zero

+ Upload Kicker

+ Ratio Tool

+ Synced with latest Abuze Mod

+ (Upload Multiplier) Show as seeder

+ (SBI-Hack Torrentview) Scrollbars added

+ Fix Tracker Update Interval Divider

+ Use Swarm Peers fixed

+ Fixed Proleech Torrent Export in menu

+ Updated core to BiglyBT 1.8.0.0



BiglyBT Change Log:
BiglyBT Change Log (https://github.com/BiglySoftware/BiglyBT/blob/master/ChangeLog.txt)
Vuze Change Log (https://svn.vuze.com/public/client/trunk/azureus2/src/ChangeLog.txt)

Installation:

Please note the change of instructions for Java 11. For Java 11 please remove the "--add-exports=java.xml.bind" line from the vmoptions file and use the OpenJDK binaries for Windows and macOS.

Windows

1. Download and install the latest Java. It must be Java version 9 or higher. (JDK GA Release (http://jdk.java.net/11/)).
2. Download and install the latest non-beta BiglyBT release (BiglyBT - Download (https://www.biglybt.com/download/)).
3. BACK UP YOUR TORRENT LIST! IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL LOSE IT!
4. Extract the hack files using 7-Zip (7-Zip Download (http://www.7-zip.org/download.html)) or equivalent to %PROGRAMFILES%\BiglyBT (C:\Program Files\BiglyBT) and overwrite ALL files.
5. Delete the "jre" folder in %PROGRAMFILES%\BiglyBT (C:\Program Files\BiglyBT).
6. Open the OpenJDK archive downloaded in step 1 and extract the "jdk-XX" folder to the BiglyBT folder %PROGRAMFILES%\BiglyBT (C:\Program Files\BiglyBT).
7. Rename the extracted "jdk-XX" folder to "jre".
8. Run Notepad as Administrator and open %PROGRAMFILES%\BiglyBT\BiglyBT.exe.vmoptions (C:\Program Files\BiglyBT\BiglyBT.exe.vmoptions), append the following line:
NOTE: If you want to run BiglyBT-console.exe perform step 8 but instead create file "BiglyBT-console.exe.vmoptions"


--patch-module=java.base=ghostfucker_utils.jar
--add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol=ALL-UNNAMED

9. Run BiglyBT and Enjoy!


macOS
1. Download and install the latest Java. It must be Java version 9 or higher. (JDK GA Release (http://jdk.java.net/11/)). Note the path to the OpenJDK archive downloaded. You will need it for step 5.
2. Download and install the latest non-beta BiglyBT release (BiglyBT - Download (https://www.biglybt.com/download/)).
3. BACK UP YOUR TORRENT LIST! IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL LOSE IT!
4. Extract the hack files within the ZIP file to /Applications/BiglyBT/.biglybt and overwrite ALL files.

NOTE: To see the folder in Finder, you may need to perform the following steps:
4a. Open Terminal
4b. Run the following command:


defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES

4c. Hold the "Option/Alt" key, then right click on the Finder icon in the dock and click Relaunch
4d. Once you have copied the files, you can revert to hiding folders with:


defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles NO


5. Open up a Terminal and run the following commands. NOTE: You need to replace "PATH_TO_OPENJDK_ARCHIVE" in the first command to the path to the OpenJDK archive from step 1.


OPENJDK_ARCHIVE="PATH_TO_OPENJDK_ARCHIVE"
sudo rm -r "/Applications/BiglyBT/.install4j/jre.bundle"
sudo tar -xzf "$OPENJDK_ARCHIVE" -C "/Applications/BiglyBT/.install4j/"
sudo mv "/Applications/BiglyBT/.install4j/jdk-"* "/Applications/BiglyBT/.install4j/jre.bundle"
echo -e "\n--patch-module=java.base=ghostfucker_utils.jar" | sudo tee -a "/Applications/BiglyBT/.biglybt/java.vmoptions"
echo "--add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol=ALL-UNNAMED" | sudo tee -a "/Applications/BiglyBT/.biglybt/java.vmoptions"

6. Run BiglyBT and Enjoy!

Linux
NOTE: Based on Ubuntu 18.04
1. Install the latest OpenJDK and libjna package from your distro's package repository. On Ubuntu 18.04 LTS this is openjdk-11-jre and libjna-java.
NOTE: Some distros do not have an OpenJDK of version 9 or greater available. In which case, you will need to download and extract the tar.gz package supplied by OpenJDK (JDK GA Release (http://jdk.java.net/11/)).


sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre libjna-java

2. Download the latest non-beta BiglyBT release and make it executable (BiglyBT - Download (https://www.biglybt.com/download/)).


wget https://files.biglybt.com/installer/BiglyBT_Installer.sh
chmod +x BiglyBT_Installer.sh

3. BACK UP YOUR TORRENT LIST! IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL LOSE IT!
4. Run the installer, specifying app_java_home variable to your JRE folder. On Ubuntu, this is: /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/


app_java_home="/usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/" ./BiglyBT_Installer.sh

5. Extract the hack files within the ZIP file to "~/biglybt" (/home/<username>/biglybt)


unzip -o BiglyBT_*.zip -d "~/biglybt"

6. Append the following VM options:


echo "--patch-module=java.base=ghostfucker_utils.jar" >> "~/.biglybt/java.vmoptions"
echo "--add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol=ALL-UNNAMED" >> "~/.biglybt/java.vmoptions"

7. Run BiglyBT and Enjoy!

Troubleshooting:
Before posting problems please make sure:
1. You have updated Java in the "jre" folder to the latest version (must be Java 9 or higher) (JDK GA Release (http://jdk.java.net/11/)]).
2. You have uninstalled BiglyBT using the uninstaller.
3. You have removed the BiglyBT Application folder:


C:\Program Files\BiglyBT (Windows x64)
C:\Program Files (x86)\BiglyBT (Windows x86)
/Applications/BiglyBT (macOS)
~/biglybt / /home/<username>/biglybt (Linux)

4. You have removed the BiglyBT Settings folder:
NOTE: THIS WILL RESET ALL BIGLYBT SETTINGS AND TORRENT LISTS


%APPDATA%\BiglyBT / C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\BiglyBT (Windows XP - Application Data may be Hidden)
%APPDATA%\BiglyBT / C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\BiglyBT (Windows Vista - AppData may be Hidden)
/Users/<username>/Library/Application Support/BiglyBT (macOS)
~/.biglybt / /home/<username>/.biglybt (Linux)

5. Reinstalled BiglyBT using the package from BiglyBT - Download (https://www.biglybt.com/download/).
6. Re-applied the hack by following the installation instructions above.

Portable Mode:
Portable mode is now built into BiglyBT / Vuze. See wiki article: Portable Vuze (https://wiki.vuze.com/w/Portable_Vuze).



Enjoy!

Mon
22.01.19, 20:09
Here we go again. Great release as always!

p.s.
Is ProLeech actually fixed or this is just a CTRL-C CTRL-V changelog? :smile:

anon
23.01.19, 01:21
Is ProLeech actually fixed or this is just a CTRL-C CTRL-V changelog? :smile:

ProLeech is still the same, those two lines were in the changelogs for previous versions too :wtongue:

braziliandude
25.01.19, 19:07
Hello, thanks for this!
I'm new here, there some tutorial so i can learn how to setup?
I never use a fakeratio before, Is safe to use this in torrentleech?

anon
25.01.19, 21:57
I'm new here, there some tutorial so i can learn how to setup?

13781

illusive
26.01.19, 02:09
Nice, getting this being updated asap

fred_gaou
29.01.19, 00:27
Guys, I don?t know if it?s related to 1.8.0.0 or YGG tracker recent changes if any but when I first start a torrent from YGG, tracker is online and finds seeders (tested with torrents with more than 50) and leechers but it doesn?t connect to any of them. Download doesn?t start.

I need to stop/start the torrent one more time and then it will eventually succeed to connect to peers.

Can anybody reproduce this?

Here my Extreme Mod settings I used with no issue until now.

19802

braziliandude
31.01.19, 14:12
Hello,
Today my torrents library gone. My files still on my computer but it's not list in library. How i can restore?

Edit. I just realize how to fix it. If i backup in Options (Tools>Options>Backup&Restore) it's will just backup my settings in extreme mod or it will backup my torrent list too?

H265
31.01.19, 15:01
Hello,
Today my torrents library gone. My files still on my computer but it's not list in library. How i can restore?

Edit. I just realize how to fix it. If i backup in Options (Tools>Options>Backup&Restore) it's will just backup my settings in extreme mod or it will backup my torrent list too?

You can find your .torrent files here > C:\Users\abc\AppData\Roaming\BiglyBT\torrents\

Save them somewhere before updating biglybt extreme mod.

Artbabelitta
01.02.19, 07:03
I don't recommend to use any ratio booster or fake client in torrentleech

the rest deleted

JohnareyouOK
01.02.19, 07:33
sorry if question is silly, but i can't make it work as a newcomer. after installing as the instructions says and start the BiglyBT.exe, no Extreme Mod tabs or setting can be seen. idk if i did everything right, so have to ask...

<1. Download and install the latest Java>, the given link is just a zip pack, seems cannot be installed like an exe installer. so i just extract it and rename as the step 6 says.

<5. Delete the "jre" folder...> there's no jre folder in BiglyBT folder after installing BiglyBT (downloaded from official site and newest version), so i just ignore this step.

<for Java 11 please remove the "--add-exports=java.xml.bind" line from the vmoptions file> jdk11 is indeed used as the link gave, but there's no this line in the BiglyBT.exe.vmoptions, so i have to ignore this step.

did i miss something when performing the installation steps? any help are appreciated, thanks!

win7x64 + openjdk-11.0.2_windows-x64_bin.zip + BiglyBT_Installer64.exe, all files are downloaded from the given link, and fresh new installation (never used BiglyBT before) considering the Troubleshooting part.

anon
03.02.19, 01:16
Hello,
Today my torrents library gone. My files still on my computer but it's not list in library. How i can restore?

Edit. I just realize how to fix it. If i backup in Options (Tools>Options>Backup&Restore) it's will just backup my settings in extreme mod or it will backup my torrent list too?

This is why we had to put the warning in step 3 of the installation procedure! But curiously, I updated from 1.6.0.0 to this version a few days ago and didn't lose my torrent list.

Anyway, the backup feature copies everything and does automatic backups by default. If you have a portable install, it will even copy the program's JAR files and everything else inside its directory.


You can find your .torrent files here > C:\Users\abc\AppData\Roaming\BiglyBT\torrents\

Save them somewhere before updating biglybt extreme mod.

Note that "Save .torrent files" must be enabled for this. That's the default, but if you're a terrorist like me and disabled it, you can still find them as .dat files under the "active" directory =]

anon
03.02.19, 01:23
sorry if question is silly, but i can't make it work as a newcomer. after installing as the instructions says and start the BiglyBT.exe, no Extreme Mod tabs or setting can be seen. idk if i did everything right, so have to ask...

You missed step 8 of the installation procedure and are not upgrading from an older version of the mod, so there is no --add-exports line to remove in the .vmoptions file, nor are the other two that are required to enable the extra features present.

Also, if you look around Oracle's download site, you'll find an installer for version 11.0.2 of the JDK that also includes the runtime environment. That's what I used myself and it works fine, although it doesn't place a Java settings icon in the control panel and has no automatic updates.

BillyG
09.02.19, 13:22
This is why we had to put the warning in step 3 of the installation procedure! But curiously, I updated from 1.6.0.0 to this version a few days ago and didn't lose my torrent list.


I've just been overwrite-updating for ages (including Vuze) and never had a problem yet.

But if the .torrent files appear to be lost look in %appdata%\BiglyBT\active for the .dat files :-)

No4LiVe
28.02.19, 18:45
Hallo Zusammen,

nutze den Extreme Mod doch schon sehr lange und finde ihn natürlich super! Goßes Lob an die Entwickler und Supporter! Jetzt habe ich mir seit kurzem eine Synologie DS718+ NAS geholt und mir Ubuntu 18.04 LTS x64 über den VM Manager installiert.

Es lief soweit alles problemlos bis auf den 5. Punkt beim Entpacken hatte ich leichte Schwierigkeiten und habs dann über die UI in den richtigen Ordner entpackt.

Nur bei Schritt 6 muss ich ja durch die echo Befehle auf das ghostfucker_utils.jar ändern, aber er findet die Datei nicht. habe auch durch cd den Pfad angepasst. Aber das hat nicht geholfen. Ich muss dazu sagen, dass ich ein richtiger Linux Neuling bin.

Die Folge ist, dass BiglyBT sobald ich einen Download starte sofort abbricht.

Hat jemand vielleicht einen Tipp wie ich Schritt 6 ausführen oder umgehen kann?
Vielen Dank schon mal :)

Obamu
03.03.19, 14:25
Can you watch movies/series while you download them? if not, how do you enable this?
I heard in some torrent clients you can watch the movie/series while you torrent them, it does this by downloading the earliest pieces first so you can watch while it downloads.

Also, is this it? there used to be an attachment to install the mod itself, we don't do that anymore? either you guys created biglybt or the mod was download by that vmoption change?

anon
04.03.19, 03:08
Can you watch movies/series while you download them? if not, how do you enable this?
I heard in some torrent clients you can watch the movie/series while you torrent them, it does this by downloading the earliest pieces first so you can watch while it downloads.

Tools -> Options -> Transfer -> tick "download pieces in order". Then you can just open the file(s) in your media player of choice as soon as the first piece is downloaded. This functionality comes from an unofficial patch for Vuze that was integrated to the mod by ghostfucker on 2014.

Note that the BitTorrent protocol's design disfavors sequential downloads, and you should avoid them on small swarms (see Sequential downloading is bad - VuzeWiki (http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Sequential_downloading_is_bad)).


Also, is this it? there used to be an attachment to install the mod itself, we don't do that anymore? either you guys created biglybt or the mod was download by that vmoption change?

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. The attachment can be found in the first post. You must install BiglyBT via the official installer and then apply the mod as usual.

d3v1ls33k3r
08.03.19, 11:59
After downloading is done, fake upload is not showing or counting.. I am not understanding what is wrong..

And anyone can provide me the safest default settings.. Too many options confused.

anon
08.03.19, 21:49
After downloading is done, fake upload is not showing or counting.. I am not understanding what is wrong..

http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=14605

Set these to zero, but be there to ensure the torrent remains active as you fake upload.


And anyone can provide me the safest default settings.. Too many options confused.

There are no "safest default settings" :wwink:

Obamu
10.03.19, 13:47
Tools -> Options -> Transfer -> tick "download pieces in order". Then you can just open the file(s) in your media player of choice as soon as the first piece is downloaded. This functionality comes from an unofficial patch for Vuze that was integrated to the mod by ghostfucker on 2014.

Note that the BitTorrent protocol's design disfavors sequential downloads, and you should avoid them on small swarms (see Sequential downloading is bad - VuzeWiki (http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Sequential_downloading_is_bad)).



Not sure what this is supposed to mean. The attachment can be found in the first post. You must install BiglyBT via the official installer and then apply the mod as usual.

Hi! I don't seem to have or see "download pieces in order"

19894

19893

anon
10.03.19, 17:33
Hi! I don't seem to have or see "download pieces in order"

You don't have the Extreme Mod settings either, which means you didn't install the mod correctly.

lil-fella
10.03.19, 21:15
set this new 1.8.0.0 version up on my main x64 rig today to see if any better that 1.5.0.0 that i had on 32bit pc
install went well.. got the mod working.. with java 11.0.2
but as soon as i try using any spoof client file with it.. once shut down to restart with chosen spoof client file..
it wont start back up again.. had to reinstall and re-copy modded files over and re-set up settings again..
tried some different spoof client files but seems to do same thing and not start up
works ok without applying any spoof client files..
just didn't know if this was a problem with new 1.8.0.0 mod or if I'd done some thing wrong..

Obamu
11.03.19, 04:25
You don't have the Extreme Mod settings either, which means you didn't install the mod correctly.
Thanks! I wasn't able to see it on my phone during work.

I don't understand some of the settings if it's not self-explanatory, some settings doesn't have a hover-text

So I hope someone would share some tips or insights every now and then, I don't have a very fast internet so I can't seed at all, so maybe tips around that would be nice.

anon
11.03.19, 23:47
but as soon as i try using any spoof client file with it.. once shut down to restart with chosen spoof client file..
it wont start back up again.. had to reinstall and re-copy modded files over and re-set up settings again..

This obviously isn't a known issue, otherwise you'd see more posts about it =] With a non-operational install, open a command prompt, change to the directory BiglyBT is installed on and run this.


set path=%path%;%programfiles%\Java\jdk-11.0.2\bin
java.exe -classpath "%CD%\BiglyBT.jar;%CD%\swt.jar" -Djava.library.path="%CD%" --patch-module=java.base=ghostfucker_utils.jar --add-exports=java.base/sun.net.www.protocol=ALL-UNNAMED com.biglybt.ui.Main

The last messages before it shuts down should provide some clue as to what the problem is.


I don't understand some of the settings if it's not self-explanatory, some settings doesn't have a hover-text

So I hope someone would share some tips or insights every now and then, I don't have a very fast internet so I can't seed at all, so maybe tips around that would be nice.

13781

Zen
14.03.19, 04:59
Perfect spoof crashes the program when enabled and you load up a torrent.
Seems to be the same thing as what lil-fella said.
I had to re install everything aswell because it would crash 3 seconds after opening it.

It works fine without it enabled but I really need the spoof.

Any ideas?

Pic below is from a completed torrent seeding once I switch it to perfect spoof.

19906

20XEJ
14.03.19, 15:38
For me Perfect spoof work without problem,in windows and mac.

Zen
15.03.19, 01:22
"For Java 11 please remove the "--add-exports=java.xml.bind" line from the vmoptions file and use the OpenJDK binaries for Windows and macOS."

What is the OpenJDK binaries for windows?

I currently have these two lines in vmoptions file:

-include-options ${APPDATA}\BiglyBT\java.vmoptions
--patch-module=java.base=ghostfucker_utils.jar


What is the last line I have to add?

mepmao
15.03.19, 01:50
For me Perfect spoof work without problem,in windows and mac.

Which tracker were you using for exactly?

anon
15.03.19, 02:11
What is the OpenJDK binaries for windows?

The ones you downloaded in step 1.


What is the last line I have to add?

The ones in step 8. The warning about java.xml.bind is for those who are upgrading from a previous version of the mod and irrelevant otherwise.

If the mod still doesn't work fine (or at all) after ensuring this was done correctly, we can start finding the cause by doing what I said in post #24 :richter:

Zen
15.03.19, 04:35
Just tried it on my laptop and it worked fine. Must have been a problem with the install on my computer.

20XEJ
15.03.19, 11:25
Which tracker were you using for exactly?

IPT and TorrentLeech.On Torrentday i use with encryption with no problem.


19908

mepmao
18.03.19, 00:39
IPT and TorrentLeech.On Torrentday i use with encryption with no problem.


19908

Do you know if these work on any of the other trackers?

killmebabyx1
18.03.19, 01:36
plzz How to set up the program

anon
18.03.19, 02:02
plzz How to set up the program

If you're having trouble with the installation, there's a step-by-step guide in the first post.

If you installed the mod successfully and don't know how to use its features, see 13781

20XEJ
18.03.19, 19:14
Do you know if these work on any of the other trackers?

Yes on the trackers where have leechers on the torrents.



plzz How to set up the program

You can also watch and this video about setup the Extreme Mod and client.

http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?32764-A-video-tutorial-for-properly-installing-amp-configuring-the-Vuze-Extreme-Mod

mepmao
19.03.19, 17:30
Yes on the trackers where have leechers on the torrents.




You can also watch and this video about setup the Extreme Mod and client.

http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?32764-A-video-tutorial-for-properly-installing-amp-configuring-the-Vuze-Extreme-Mod

Okay, great. What trackers do you use this on?

20XEJ
21.03.19, 12:16
Okay, great. What trackers do you use this on?


I use on most of time on IPT,TL.

mepmao
22.03.19, 03:34
I use on most of time on IPT,TL.

Mac or PC?

20XEJ
22.03.19, 12:58
Right now on Mac earlier on Windows.

Zen
22.03.19, 16:57
Can someone tell me why it only starts to fake upload once the torrent has completly finished downloading?

anon
23.03.19, 01:24
Can someone tell me why it only starts to fake upload once the torrent has completly finished downloading?

http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=14605

In all likelihood you're a victim of this, but post a screenshot of your settings and we'll know for sure.

Zen
23.03.19, 09:41
Thank you I set both to zero and is working now.

20XEJ
23.03.19, 16:18
set this new 1.8.0.0 version up on my main x64 rig today to see if any better that 1.5.0.0 that i had on 32bit pc
install went well.. got the mod working.. with java 11.0.2
but as soon as i try using any spoof client file with it.. once shut down to restart with chosen spoof client file..
it wont start back up again.. had to reinstall and re-copy modded files over and re-set up settings again..
tried some different spoof client files but seems to do same thing and not start up
works ok without applying any spoof client files..
just didn't know if this was a problem with new 1.8.0.0 mod or if I'd done some thing wrong..


I just reinstall MacOS i and get same problem without spoof works great but with enabled any client spoof BiglyBT no start.

anon
24.03.19, 04:56
Guys, if no one with this problem grabs and posts the output of running the mod using the Java terminal launcher as I mentioned in post #24, we'll never get started with finding the cause.

Zen
24.03.19, 09:09
I just reinstall MacOS i and get same problem without spoof works great but with enabled any client spoof BiglyBT no start.

When this happened to me it turned out that Java was not installed correctly. Try reinstalling Java and see if it fixes it.

20XEJ
24.03.19, 16:01
I install Java from link on the first page.

paraglider__7000
24.03.19, 17:17
how do u use this

---------- Post Merged at 17:16 ---------- Previous Post was at 17:15 ----------

can u use on red

---------- Post Merged at 17:17 ---------- Previous Post was at 17:16 ----------

did u learn where 2 use

mepmao
24.03.19, 17:23
how do u use this

---------- Post Merged at 17:16 ---------- Previous Post was at 17:15 ----------

can u use on red

---------- Post Merged at 17:17 ---------- Previous Post was at 17:16 ----------

did u learn where 2 use

I'm so confused. With all due respect man, all of the answers to these are scattered within this thread.

Of course, sometimes certain things aren't and that's when you can ask, but these questions are so vague.

Just being helpful :)

20XEJ
24.03.19, 19:08
When this happened to me it turned out that Java was not installed correctly. Try reinstalling Java and see if it fixes it.

I've tried now on Windows and work normal BiglyBT EM with client spoof.

lil-fella
29.03.19, 18:39
looking forward to a new BiglyBT Extreme Mod by SB-Innovation 1.9.0.0 Beta

many thanks in advance...

BillyG
30.03.19, 13:24
looking forward to a new BiglyBT Extreme Mod by SB-Innovation 1.9.0.0 Beta

Btw: Imho this is the Java to use: https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html

- available for all platforms and then some
- Java 8 to 12 (unlike Oracle including x86 Windows for 11+)
- installer or zip
- 2 jvm options (hotspot for less cpu, openj9 for less memory)
- as a lean "jre" too - instread of just Oracle's huge jdk

=> you might want to add this link to the next copy/paste release notes :-)

anon
30.03.19, 19:04
Btw: Imho this is the Java to use: https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html

Nice find (as usual :wwink:). I suppose you use this yourself and have no problems with it? I have had bad experiences with "alternative" JVMs, i.e. any binaries that didn't come from Oracle (and formerly Sun) in the form of an installer. Lack of stability and programs complaining they weren't running under the real thing. Although OpenJDK is an official Oracle project, so they should be pretty much equivalent.

BillyG
31.03.19, 16:43
To be honest, I just discovered it myself, but seems to run fine so far for BiglyBt and JDownloader.

As it's basically a compiled OpenJDK, and that's the reference nowadays, I guess it should be fine. Unlike than other 3rd-party jdk distributions, it has an installer - personally I use zips, but I guess the installer sets the usual JAVA_HOME env vars so the jre can be found for jar-exe wrappers.

Personally, I'd go for a jre because of the size. But as far as support is converned of course having different Java versions and dists will tend to create more problems. So a commercial distributor would say "check against Oracle before filing bugs" :-)

Last not least, I'm reading x86 11+ dists are less tested b/c Oracle only supports x64. But at least projects can move to 11+ without leaving x86 in the dust.

JohnareyouOK
19.11.20, 18:41
First,to be definite,the Swarm Average Speed is "The average swarm speed is calculated by measuring the interval between have-messages and the amount of data they represent you get from your peers (the estimated download speed column in the peers view is based on that information, too). Then the calculated peer speed (including your own) is divided by the number of peers you're connected to. ".
Solution to both: untick all files in the "Add" when loading the torrent.When all files are deselected when torrent being added, is the swarm average speed not available? thus rendering the following two options useless in this scenario?

Use the swarm's average speed as fake upload speed (in speed mode++) <= When this option is checked in this scenario, the upspeedfake is always not generated.
Stop increasing the fake upload when you are connected to less than X peers <= Suppose use number of connected to, this option is useless in this scenario, since no peer2peer connection will be established, right?


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Is there a tool that implements a cheat mode that doesn't actually download content, at the same time be able to make different decisions (eg adjust fake speed or stop torrent) based on average swarm speed and swarm progress yet?

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Is this understanding correct? When the option "Use the swarm's average speed as fake upload speed" is checked, assuming the swarm average speed is X, and "Speed: Between Y KB/s per torrent and Y KB/s per torrent" is set, then the actual fake upload speed will be randomly selected in range [X, Y]. and if X > Y , then fake speed = Y ?


Keep in mind the swarm average speed only takes the peers you're connected to in consideration... if you aren't connected to anyone, of course it'll be 0kB/s.But if X = 0 then fake speed also = 0 ?

anon
20.11.20, 02:05
When all files are deselected when torrent being added, is the swarm average speed not available? thus rendering the following two options useless in this scenario?

Unfortunately, yes. You can't have an accurate or even somewhat accurate picture of the swarm if peers keep disconnecting you because they're uninterested on the nothing you have to offer (see https://wiki.theory.org/index.php/BitTorrentSpecification#Overview and 359104).


Is there a tool that implements a cheat mode that doesn't actually download content, at the same time be able to make different decisions (eg adjust fake speed or stop torrent) based on average swarm speed and swarm progress yet?

Such a thing is not possible for the reason mentioned above.


Is this understanding correct?

http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=18711

When 18f is enabled, the first text field in 18k is disabled and the swarm speed is used as the minimum fake upload speed instead (and it can be as low as 0, yes). You can still control the maximum. If the swarm speed "X" is higher than your maximum "Y", the fake upload speed will effectively be set to "Y".

If this sounds too confusing, you can always experiment and check results using a public Linux torrent :happy:

JohnareyouOK
20.11.20, 04:08
Such a thing is not possible for the reason mentioned above.I still don't understand why it's impossible.:confused:

The client can get approximate speed of other peers by have packet (and the time elapsed), and keep track of their progress by bitfield (to avoid running out of swarm progress) , and use other peers' bitfield/have to make up its own have/bitfield, keeping its own state as interested and unchoked (when "downloading"), but choke or discard the requests sent by other peers when they actually sent (pretend having busy network). - in which way, to avoid downloading actual content, at the same time try to look like a legitimate peer in the eyes of other peers.
<= Is this right?

anon
20.11.20, 04:26
choke or discard the requests sent by other peers when they actually sent (pretend having busy network)

Your peer connections won't stay open for long if you do this. On top of that, inactive peers are usually disconnected too.

If you're willing to do everything you mentioned plus keeping track of known peers and checking on them regularly, you'd get pretty close. But that's too much work just to obtain an approximation of an approximation (the "real" swarm speed is not 100% accurate in the first place).

JohnareyouOK
20.11.20, 05:04
But that's too much work just to obtain an approximation of an approximation (the "real" swarm speed is not 100% accurate in the first place).Tracking speed is only one of considerations. Basically, I dream of a mode that:

can fake download without actual download content
with some degree of automation (eg if leecher<5 then upspeed=0 or if reach swarm progress then downspeed=0, etc)
present as little cheating trait in peer-to-peer communication as possible.

mR doesn't send choke, RMP doesn't actively send handshake (which for a client lacking of port forward means no peer-to-peer communication at all, no chance to send choke), and BiglyBT Extreme Mod is pretty awesome but seems cant do these 3 together either. But indeed necessity and cost are the key considerations here. a lot more work appears once need taking care of p2p communication. I'm just concerned some strict anti-cheat trackers may catch us by checking peer-to-peer communications more closely.

anon
21.11.20, 03:58
a lot more work appears once need taking care of p2p communication. I'm just concerned some strict anti-cheat trackers may catch us by checking peer-to-peer communications more closely.

I agree that any known detection vector in a cheat client should be fixed as a matter of principle, but as we discussed in 34560, peer behavior monitoring would be extremely hard to implement in a reliable and scalable manner.

I would instead be more concerned about TLS fingerprinting of tracker announces; while I don't think it will become a danger in the near future (see 356429), it would at least be much easier to perform, supplying circumstantial evidence of cheating (e.g. "uTorrent" request sent with Java 15's TLS fingerprint).

JohnareyouOK
21.11.20, 06:18
I would instead be more concerned about TLS fingerprinting of tracker announces; while I don't think it will become a danger in the near futurenever heard of TLS Fingerprints before, googled it up, and this article (https://devcentral.f5.com/s/articles/tls-fingerprinting-a-method-for-identifying-a-tls-client-without-decrypting-24598) describes it clearly (in case anyone else reading here doesn't know about it either) indeed this detection is relatively more reliable and feasible than p2p detection. sigh, after rereading that keepfrds post, this sentence stands out:

the value of what you're trying to secure is fairly low (in an era of fast connections and gigabit seedboxes, cheaters couldn't damage a tracker even if they tried)The reason why PTer and LeagueHD choose to spend more effort on developing that much unique features that other nexusphp trackers don't have, rather than on anti cheating, is probably because they also understand this. hopefully all trackers understand this. :wink2:

anon
21.11.20, 08:44
never heard of TLS Fingerprints before, googled it up, and this article (https://devcentral.f5.com/s/articles/tls-fingerprinting-a-method-for-identifying-a-tls-client-without-decrypting-24598) describes it clearly (in case anyone else reading here doesn't know about it either) indeed this detection is relatively more reliable and feasible than p2p detection.

For the record, mRatio Fixer v7 will attempt to imitate Windows 10 as closely as possible in this regard (not a perfect solution, but I don't see one that is). Java's TLS fingerprint can be altered to an extent by editing the default security policy file.


sigh, after rereading that keepfrds post, this sentence stands out:
The reason why PTer and LeagueHD choose to spend more effort on developing that much unique features that other nexusphp trackers don't have, rather than on anti cheating, is probably because they also understand this. hopefully all trackers understand this. :wink2:

There's another reason I forgot to mention. Most trackers rely exclusively on donations to cover operational costs. In the early days of What.cd, staff had a cheap server (paid for with said donations) that was used 1. to download torrents on a throwaway account and inject upload into the then-emerging site economy, 2. as a VPN server to provide security, the OiNK bust still fresh in everyone's minds. Despite the fact both could be reasonably considered legitimate, this still caused an uproar when word got out. Now imagine the reaction if it was discovered that staff on KeepFRDS, or anywhere else, invested users' money into creating an infrastructure to "send random data block requests and catch cheaters"...

Then again, IPT's owner is known to receive monthly profits of several thousand dollars from the fake lotteries and "limited time" promos on his trackers, yet people keep donating, so I may be completely wrong :ninja: