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Jello
01.05.12, 13:16
So empornium has relaunched as torrents.empornium.me. Please share your cheating experience their.

perpec
02.05.12, 23:12
Easy to cheat.
I using even speeds like 1,5MB/s with WM and everything is fine.
You can cheat even on torrents with 1-3 peers, they don't have good scripts on this site ;)

Instab
04.05.12, 07:11
they don't have good scripts on this site ;)
maybe they even have none :eek:
anybody flashed there?

anon
04.05.12, 14:59
anybody flashed there?

Ever since I learned that word has another meaning, I smile every time someone posts that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w_GlGR7Fy8

yoco
04.05.12, 15:08
I cheat with my fake upload speed mode =)
But the site is really slow atm!

Jello
04.05.12, 19:33
^Yes they seem to have some issues with the site.

Instab
04.05.12, 21:44
Ever since I learned that word has another meaning, I smile every time someone posts that.
wouldn't that be a great match in case of a porn tracker? :D

cirulilu
05.06.12, 23:22
i use mratio there at 2MB/s to keep my ratio, no problem at all.

koel
21.03.13, 22:50
flashing doesn't work

blacksox
22.03.13, 13:01
Its based on gazelle so don't think flashing would work. Just use moderate speed and don't end up on the top 10.

anon
22.03.13, 18:14
The stock Gazelle code does have an anti-flash routine, but it's disabled by default.

It's the most basic means of detecting obvious cheaters.

Blazedneg
24.08.13, 19:16
Flashing doesn't work here. Tried about 90 GB in 10s with mR, banned the next day. They got open sign-up right now so go and experiment if you want :top:

Mr Wiz0rd
30.08.13, 01:17
has anyone been banned for cheating on empornium and got there account back by going to irc and being honest? also if you get banned can u make another account using the same ip?

Blazedneg
30.08.13, 02:55
has anyone been banned for cheating on empornium and got there account back by going to irc and being honest? also if you get banned can u make another account using the same ip?

From their rules:
Ratio cheating will get you perma-banned - don't do it!

The second answer is pretty obvious.

anon
30.08.13, 04:11
has anyone been banned for cheating on empornium and got there account back by going to irc and being honest?

Well, how do you define "honest" in this situation? If you think that'd entail merely telling them you did in fact cheat, in hopes of getting your account back for that, it wouldn't be a very correct definition.

Mr Wiz0rd
30.08.13, 05:17
Well, how do you define "honest" in this situation? If you think that'd entail merely telling them you did in fact cheat, in hopes of getting your account back for that, it wouldn't be a very correct definition.

well i just meant talk to a admin in irc and don't hide what you did and ask for mercy/second chance

i wonder if that ever worked

Blazedneg
30.08.13, 05:34
I've read somewhere here that some tracker (a romanian one I think it was) had a very soft politic toward cheaters, they'd warn you and ask you to stop doing it if they ever catch you. I think that's the exception to the rule, most of the staff don't like cheaters at all, some even share userdata regarding cheaters trying to ban you everywhere.

THC
30.08.13, 12:10
I've read somewhere here that some tracker (a romanian one I think it was) had a very soft politic toward cheaters, they'd warn you and ask you to stop doing it if they ever catch you. I think that's the exception to the rule, most of the staff don't like cheaters at all, some even share userdata regarding cheaters trying to ban you everywhere.

That's scenefz.net. That also happened to me. They warned me and deleted all my upload. Then I cheated with a slower speed. :wgrin: Now it's a ratioless tracker with no seeding requirements.

anon
30.08.13, 16:35
Filelist.ro was pretty relaxed too, as far as I remember.

Back in 2008, I once registered on an open tracker and went straight to flashing 50 GB. The following day my upload was gone, but the account still worked. No PMs about it, though.

That educational approach is good, some people don't have much technical knowledge and don't even know they're doing something "bad" by using programs like RatioMaster. It's possible to cheat accidentally too; incorrectly cross-seeding by putting multiple announce URLs in the same torrent is the canon example. But staff on the larger, well-known trackers must be too overtaxed already to lecture everyone trying to cheat.

Tzuriel
30.09.13, 18:30
It can't be that hard to cheat....a few months back a member uploaded like 150TB and then proceeded to donate 1TB-10TB to their bounty system. The admins didn't even catch the guy but the members of the site reported him after seeing insane bounty donations from him on the front page.

Would be interesting if anyone here has a 2 month+ old account (that they don't mind losing) to upload at 8-10mb for say 5TB as I wager you wouldn't get banned.

bankrupter45
10.01.14, 18:05
any news about this tracker? what are the safe speeds?

TvFan
11.01.14, 20:17
i m using mR with speed upto 150kb/s the Max speed and its working pretty good i m PU now

dickbutt123
12.01.14, 00:15
Easy tracker to cheat on, but remember they have auto scripts. Messing around with VEM and accidentally got the upload too high (damn you Ratio Mode) and was banned a few hours later. Before that been ghosting and fake uploading since Emp's old site.

Master Razor
20.05.14, 21:02
Tested with
mRatio WM 5MB up/down

uSerenity no-report is useless here.

yoco
20.05.14, 22:44
My account got deleted :frown:
I was leeching with uSerenity!

Master Razor
20.05.14, 22:58
How old was the account?

koel
21.05.14, 15:16
I cheated with high speeds & flashed from 50-500 GB & got banned .
2MB/s +wm works on good torrents anyday .
I think it's open sign so why do you complain about closed accounts ?!

yoco
21.05.14, 15:40
How old was the account?
Really old. But I was active like a month ago. When I tried log in last week it said my account is disabled and I should go to their IRC for more answers, but I didn't feel like it so I created new account :D

Master Razor
26.05.14, 21:02
I think it's open sign so why do you complain about closed accounts ?!
This is pr0n.

uSerenity reports everything on empornium so no chance of no report with it there. It annoys me because I tend to download a lot from here and my ration drops so low that I'm put on ration watch. Not a problem but I can't download anything until the next day.
So each day I download 30GB and put back at least the same ammout.

koel
26.05.14, 22:30
I never took porn so seriously

Master Razor
26.05.14, 23:07
I'm the darth vader of pr0n. I took way more seriously than it deserves.
Still is hard to cheat there.

JessieB
03.06.14, 16:50
I'm the darth vader of pr0n. I took way more seriously than it deserves.
Still is hard to cheat there.
Me too lol
I've cheated there and been caught multiple times... and I was careful.


They seem to be pretty cool and have easy ratio rules: minimum ratio 0.5 and credits to remove download.
All they ask is dont cheat so what the hell I can do that. Free porn is free. I felt bad about continousely fucking with them so finally I gave up and keep honest ratio now.

I've been "good" for 2 months now, I have 0.8 ratio with almost no seeding done. :biggrin:

I still cheat on other sites like TL because they are annoying as fuck with their download delays and slot limits.:baeh:

anon
04.06.14, 05:24
(...) other sites like TL because they are annoying as fuck with their download delays and slot limits.:baeh:

Agree. These and inactivity policies are a custom from when trackers had open signups and maximum user limits. Their only function now is to unnecessarily make it harder for newcomers.

serikson
22.07.14, 21:09
It can't be that hard to cheat....a few months back a member uploaded like 150TB and then proceeded to donate 1TB-10TB to their bounty system. The admins didn't even catch the guy but the members of the site reported him after seeing insane bounty donations from him on the front page.

Would be interesting if anyone here has a 2 month+ old account (that they don't mind losing) to upload at 8-10mb for say 5TB as I wager you wouldn't get banned.

that was me jaborney332

koel
17.09.14, 17:44
How does a guy suppose to upload TBs fast in there boyz?
I uploaded with wFm 2TB in like 2 h ,not much on each torrent, and after a week I got banned .
No smart ass replys please!

system28
18.09.14, 09:05
Hi koel, just the same as here:

http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=26021#post322438

serikson
24.02.15, 08:00
this site is now closed for new registrations
anyone in need of a 'used' account,feel free to PM me
if any of empornium staff reads this,please i just want to pass good and cheat free acc to those who are in need.
I've learned my lesson.

anon
24.02.15, 17:37
I'm the darth vader of pr0n. I took way more seriously than it deserves.

How the hell did I miss this post :eyebrows:


i just want to pass good and cheat free acc to those who are in need.

It's not the same account from post #34, right?

serikson
24.02.15, 17:49
absolutely NOT..that one was disabled

Ultraviolet
08.04.15, 16:04
Ok, my account was banned earlier this week.
I used uTorrent Expansion SBI Leecher Pack v20 (based on uTorrent 3.1.3 Build 26837) - NoComplete_NoReport-Leecher.
It went well for weeks.

I went to their IRC and asked why, "for cheating".
The strange thing is, they asked me if I ever had another account there and gave me an old username, which got disabled last year.
I wonder how they can identify that?

If anybody has an account they don't need... I'd be happy to take it, as registrations are currently closed.

ozymandis
08.04.15, 19:14
I'm the darth vader of pr0n. I took way more seriously than it deserves.
Still is hard to cheat there.
All hail Master Dart Vader :34: Razor:Berserker1:

just read it and couldn't resist replying

Note:- If any 1 has a solution to Ultraviolet's problem do respond I don't want to derail the genuine discussion

anon
09.04.15, 03:43
One possible detection vector I can think of is using that mod (which reports no traffic in either direction) on a torrent with few people on it. They saw someone uploading and you not transferring anything, then compared the logs they have for other torrents you leeched, and arrived at the conclusion you were the cheater.

As for the year-old account of yours they brought up during the chat, an IP and maybe browser match would be my best theory.

koel
09.04.15, 12:14
I keep saying it uTorrent 3.1.3 Build 26837 you paint a target on yo ass.
Be modest with wm and it should work.

Ultraviolet
09.04.15, 20:25
I think you could be right about the detection. Lately I've leeched some rather unpopular torrents, which could have brought me to someones attention.

I won't be using the mod on that tracker again, but it worked well until then, so I had no reason to change it - lazy me. ;-)
I'll surely try another method next time.

I'm a little surprised they even care that much, in my experience porn trackers never really cared about leechers. Which could correlate to most trackers having open registrations all the time... :P

anon
10.04.15, 03:42
I'm a little surprised they even care that much, in my experience porn trackers never really cared about leechers.

They don't have to "care" as much as write a simple script which cross-checks everyone's transferred bytes (with some security margin) every X hours on torrents with less than Y people, and sends an alert in the event of a mismatch.


Which could correlate to most trackers having open registrations all the time... :P

Related discussion: 23696

asdf2
18.04.15, 00:38
Hey guys,
I'm new to tracker cheating, since the closed registration at Empornium caught me with my pant down (literally, haha). I'm stuck with one account where a can't download anything (which I have to in order to built my ratio up).

So I tried RatioMaster for a few minutes and it looked fine, but I read on a blog that RatioMaster can be detected easily, since it has not the most sophisticated algorithms.
--> What Tools do you use at empornium? (Someone posted "WM" but I don't know what this is)
And do you alway fake download a torrent before seeding?

Sorry for the noob questions but I've only one account there, I would rather not get caught to soon :tongue:

DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
18.04.15, 16:00
you're new ...i need to see your credentials that you;re not working with empornium stuff before i give you cheating tips...are you wearing a wire ? :tongue:

WM means waffles method : http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=12494


And do you alway fake download a torrent before seeding?

not always..it depends...if you have really downloaded something (meaning real downloaded (no fake)and has enough seeders you can skip to seeding if not, you have to pickup another torrent with good seeders and fake download after that upload

anon
18.04.15, 20:31
So I tried RatioMaster for a few minutes and it looked fine, but I read on a blog that RatioMaster can be detected easily, since it has not the most sophisticated algorithms.

Which blog was it, when was that written, and what are the authors' interests? :wwink:


(Someone posted "WM" but I don't know what this is)

You are likely writing this from a desktop computer... where you can hover the cursor over some acronyms to get an explanatory tooltip.


And do you alway fake download a torrent before seeding?

That depends on the content at hand. If it's something you can't find elsewhere (pack, tracker exclusive), you pretty much have to.

DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
19.04.15, 01:48
and about cheating...on well seeded torrents with speeds between 200 and 600 kbs will work safe,no mather the client ..mratio or ratio master with memory reader

asdf2
19.04.15, 10:19
are you wearing a wire ? :tongue:
...

Eeeeeh, noooooo? *slowly reaching to the kill-switch*


Which blog was it, when was that written, and what are the authors' interests? :wwink:

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-increase-your-uploaddownloadratio-in-bittorrent-trackers/



You are likely writing this from a desktop computer... where you can hover the cursor over some acronyms to get an explanatory tooltip.

Yeah, but since I didn't (don't) know the w@ffles tr@cker, the explanation seemed quite odd to me :tongue: (sorry again for asking)

Thanks for the tips!!

DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
19.04.15, 16:27
don't do waffles method anyway..i learned in the past years that the method is not so safe or quaranties your account over years...the best cheating method is slow and steady cheating ..not overnight

anon
20.04.15, 02:47
asdf2, to my knowledge there are no serious bugs in RatioMaster that allow its detection when used correctly. There is a quirk in how uTorrent 3.x versions report the peer_id/key (forgot which one) that cannot be emulated due to lack of updates, but you can work around it by emulating an older version or a different client.

Also:


Although it is easy to cheat the tracker and increase your upload ratio using mRatio, it can however be easily detected as well. mRatio continues to send reports to the tracker and what the tracker administrator can do to detect the cheating is by stop giving real peers to the cheater for a few hours. When they still receive reports after stop sending peers to the cheater, it is a definite sign that this user is using an emulator to increase their upload ratio.

It remains possible for a real, non-cheating client to keep on uploading to the peers it already "knows". Upload traffic is not conditional on continuing to receive new ones.

sab1994
06.04.16, 07:03
Has anyone used mRatio on empornium in the past few months?
Is it safe to use mRatio on empornium?
What Settings and speed should i use?

Thanks in advance :top:

DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
07.04.16, 08:10
from what i recall...well seeded torrents ....100-200 KBS UP MAX with X.Minutes changing speed interval...multiple torrents should be safe...it;s not very hard ...just don't overdo it

Manchunian
11.04.16, 17:07
How about GT? Have you guys tried those tool?

---------- Post Merged at 16:07 ---------- Previous Post was at 16:05 ----------


Has anyone used mRatio on empornium in the past few months?
Is it safe to use mRatio on empornium?
What Settings and speed should i use?

Thanks in advance :top:

No bro, don't try it with mRatio. I got banned because of it.

anon
11.04.16, 20:09
No bro, don't try it with mRatio. I got banned because of it.

That's probably because you didn't use it correctly.

Manchunian
12.04.16, 15:24
That's probably because you didn't use it correctly.

What should I set or do. Perhaps you help me to use mRatio correctly on Empornium? I mean how much the speed I must set or I have to do something. Because, the last time I caught, I set the upload speed 1.2MB and Donwload is 2MB. How about greedytorrents? Is that safe, how much the "report my upload as" I should set?

THC
15.04.16, 08:17
What should I set or do. Perhaps you help me to use mRatio correctly on Empornium? I mean how much the speed I must set or I have to do something. Because, the last time I caught, I set the upload speed 1.2MB and Donwload is 2MB. How about greedytorrents? Is that safe, how much the "report my upload as" I should set?

How about taking the advice of DarkSaibot and use a lower UP speed: 100-200 KB/s?

Manchunian
15.04.16, 09:25
How about taking the advice of DarkSaibot and use a lower UP speed: 100-200 KB/s?

No trying yet. Do you thing it safe?

whyme
09.02.17, 15:02
1,5 mb up working fine with mratio

sbboy44
05.07.17, 08:06
i'm going to use ratio master to seed a torrent which is 4.7 gigs in size had 60 seeders, 40 leechers
how much upload speed should i use to be safe :confused:

and do i really need to stop while updating tracker like in waffles method or this emp is not so harsh !!

H265
05.07.17, 09:49
i'm going to use ratio master to seed a torrent which is 4.7 gigs in size had 60 seeders, 40 leechers
how much upload speed should i use to be safe :confused:

and do i really need to stop while updating tracker like in waffles method or this emp is not so harsh !!

Read the waffles method thread.

sbboy44
28.12.17, 19:32
wtf i have done i will never ever do that again :frown:, plz don't try this anyone it will totally ruin your account :mad:

anon
28.12.17, 21:14
You live and learn. Or you don't live long =]

FubareD
29.12.17, 00:28
As I always say man, I'm a WM fan, and it works like a charm on this site. Give the whole WM thread a try and get around with the method, its worth it for the rest of your torrenting experience.

vetko
11.01.18, 23:38
What is policy on EMP about second profile. I get banned and is it safe to make a new one without getting banned?

alpacino
12.01.18, 01:23
The usual cautions should apply here, like clear all browse cookies and history (if possible change browser), change e-mail, use a completely different username, different avatar or none at all and if on dynamic IP use the methods to change it.

anon
12.01.18, 21:41
What is policy on EMP about second profile.

It's not disallowed unless you get caught =]

vetko
14.01.18, 00:31
It's not disallowed unless you get caught =]

How to dont get caught :D ? (Post before yours?)

H265
14.01.18, 13:25
How to dont get caught :D ? (Post before yours?)

https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=19023

cirulilu
29.10.20, 11:27
Anyone still doing it? What works?

sashiagustina
30.10.20, 08:05
i think WM still works. but idk to be sure, cause i dont have the account

anon
01.11.20, 02:45
i think WM still works. but idk to be sure, cause i dont have the account

In other words, you have no idea :weirdo:

Someone claimed to have been banned for using the Waffles method on post #63, but it's clear from their previous reply that they were completely unfamiliar with it, and likely got the steps wrong.

I would suggest starting with conservative (< 250 KB/s) upload speeds on active torrents, perhaps divided among a few of them. Or you can just try uploading for real, porn trackers don't exactly have a leecher crisis.

sashiagustina
03.11.20, 02:35
In other words, you have no idea :weirdo:

Someone claimed to have been banned for using the Waffles method on post #63, but it's clear from their previous reply that they were completely unfamiliar with it, and likely got the steps wrong.

I would suggest starting with conservative (< 250 KB/s) upload speeds on active torrents, perhaps divided among a few of them. Or you can just try uploading for real, porn trackers don't exactly have a leecher crisis.

i would like to note this advice, how to do it ? i mean is there any bookmark for it, that will make it appears in our personal profile.

music trackers has leecher crisis, omg :D my friend suggest to not be a cheater on a prestigious tracker, he suggest me to have seedbox, only few dollars and lil bit complicated setup

anon
03.11.20, 03:17
i would like to note this advice, how to do it ?

Write a visitor message to yourself in your profile page, bookmark the post, use the notes feature in your browser (if available), put a text file in your startup folder, use the Sticky Notes app in Windows 10, buy Post-itŪ notes or a memopad in the 3D world and write it there...


music trackers has leecher crisis, omg :D my friend suggest to not be a cheater on a prestigious tracker, he suggest me to have seedbox, only few dollars and lil bit complicated setup

They're not wrong, but if the "prestigious tracker" is RED, having a seedbox or high upload speeds is only one factor. Don't expect to mindlessly autosnatch everything for a month and then build an everlasting buffer as you would on IPT or FL.io, because that approach won't work.

sigduwksnsksis9283
04.11.20, 07:57
seedboxes will not be good idea if your used to cheating tho speaking from experience a 10gbit 40tb space seedbox can get you soo much buffer on a general tracker with right automation is beyond usage so stick to cheating and earn as much you plan to use or else it will become quite the pain when you get banned. plus porn tracker has enough leechers so if you plan on uploading legitimately, it is also a good source of upload since its a porn tracker and emp has around 5+ autosnatchers on most categories. so lets say you have 5MB/s upload speed you will make at minimum 3x ratio of what you uploaded if all goes well

also just saying my personal opinion on emp is quite bleak(in other words there are better place for porn), the forum is the place why i would want the tracker besides that the tracker on terms of contents suck(personal opinion) pornolab will be far better always for content and since its semi private it makes it even better.

JohnWick
04.11.20, 11:51
i think emp invites are rare and precius so do not take risk,
2nd reason, it is very easy to get good ratio in a single month in this tracker or any p0rn tracker..

try to get seedbox from cheap/budgeted provider with unlimited bandwidth for 1-3 month, by seading you can upload in terabytes in 1-3 month..

anon
05.11.20, 23:50
seedboxes will not be good idea if your used to cheating

I was used to cheating the first time I got my hands on a seedbox, and that didn't deter me in the slightest, trust me =]


also just saying my personal opinion on emp is quite bleak(in other words there are better place for porn)


i think emp invites are rare and precius so do not take risk

EMP is a good source, but let's face it, the reason a lot of people are interested is because it used to have open signups all the time and now doesn't.

sigduwksnsksis9283
07.11.20, 17:28
I was used to cheating the first time I got my hands on a seedbox, and that didn't deter me in the slightest, trust me =]
No one is gonna say no to a seedbox but its either a dedicated seedbox or no actual amount from racing unless your using it in a traffic sinkhole sites and if not then the upload amount would be usually around 20Gb to 6Gb which is the casual amount a cheater should get too anyways. and i was a so call seedbox user before i learned about greedy torrent and later SBI. though from my point of view if you buy a seedbox and not use it for racing then the seedbox is useless. thus making cheating superior



EMP is a good source, but let's face it, the reason a lot of people are interested is because it used to have open signups all the time and now doesn't.
yeah i can get why people would go to the point of trying to buy emp invite since after all it makes both epeen and edick harder :gshifty:
but imma stick to my beloved "free" pornolab. and not bother soo much about a porn site since its porn anyways. and the uploading rules on emp is so fucking harsh like they want you to give a description of what they do what is what like if there was a proper PornDB then this would have made sense but nope.
i tried uploading there a bit but gave up after trying to write few catchy descriptions on how two people fuck in more erotic ways. and i noticed sometimes people don't give sauce on javs(hate them for this a bit more) anyways emp isn't bad either its good for average person looking for good site but for me no.

anon
07.11.20, 23:21
from my point of view if you buy a seedbox and not use it for racing then the seedbox is useless. thus making cheating superior

You are too pragmatic. Even a very cheap seedbox that doesn't autosnatch anything has several advantages. You don't have to plan a cheating strategy, regularly check on your client or worry about getting banned. You don't even need to leave your computer turned on. And of course, any and all traffic will be legitimate; while I'm of the opinion that with today's connection speeds cheating has minimal harmful effects, real upload is obviously always going to be better.

Of course, ultimately it's all about whether you find those things worth the price you're paying. But there's a stretch between that and "a seedbox is useless if not used for racing".


i tried uploading there a bit but gave up after trying to write few catchy descriptions on how two people fuck in more erotic ways.

Hopefully this gave you newfound appreciation for the work done by eroge scenario writers ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

sigduwksnsksis9283
08.11.20, 07:16
yeah i mean a workable seedbox is 10 euro or so and that's like what a single lunch/dinner price at a restaurant, so that way seedboxes are cheap and worth it but since i await a ban to come anyway i am not spending a single penny on piracy besides paying for my internet.

another topic i would like say would be that i would rather get usenet then a seedbox. why? (offtopic but lemme say anyways) on usenet, at best if i use multiple indexers and backbones it would cost me around 50$ a year at best or on budget/good selection and DOG gets almost most p2p releases. so get this, paying to level up or paying to get contents/download and getting DOG invite is as easy as obtaining SIMPLY's invite on r/usenetinvites and then later giving the 5 invites you get at beginning when you join and later ask for DOG ain't that simple. the only thing i won't trust usenet for is softwares and softwares can be easily found on ddl forums or rutracker plus i don't gotta keep track of ratio on usenet :wink2:

My thinking is probably different then others just trying to get content simply without working too much but lets just live and let live.

anon
10.11.20, 05:09
Newsgroups can absolutely replace torrents for most general usage, not to mention you're guaranteed full speeds as long as within the retention period, there are no ratios to worry about (or cheat), and no copyright agencies monitoring downloads. However, you need to pay for a main provider, then pay for a fill on a different backbone to grab missing articles, and likely pay for a good indexer too. And learn what all of those things mean. For the average Joe that's both costly and complicated whereas "torrents are free". Then again, perhaps these barriers to entry and exclusivity are a good thing, there are too many takedowns already. I'm not a veteran on this regard, but I got to enjoy the pre-2013 Usenet, when missing articles were rare and a free indexer was enough... plus Xennanews' public test server and Binload existed :wgrin:

By the way, your $50/year figure is too low unless you're splitting costs or find some really good promotions. The cheapest provider I know, Frugal Usenet, costs exactly that if you pay upfront.

sigduwksnsksis9283
10.11.20, 06:40
Yea, i noticed that most indexers even top tier ones always have a free version, which limitations are usually low api limit meaning you can't automate much with sonarr and stuff but i don't mind that really considering after watching 1-2 movies your free time of the day is usually up and your back to work again. but another thing bad about usenet is there is no dedicated one to specific content. the only specific one i have seen so far is anime tosho and the rest are all general. then as you said too many takedowns happens and leads to the stuff being broke at certain point which requires multiple usenet indexers and backbones and in which here comes the bonus or offers of the services. like if you regularly search through r/usenet you will find loads of cheap offers on occasions even by good backbones.

splitting costs should be nice for usenet unlike shared seedboxes since its the host we're sharing and undoubtedly neither of us are gonna be downloading 24/7 using up all the conconnections.

Even, i never got to the point of buying usenet indexers/backbone but i tested it for fallbacks but usenet communities faces more problems then the torrent communities since indexers die out or admins go awol(randomly) and stuff. the torrent community is more political while usenet is your using the product just silently use it don't bother us too much.

If usenet gets too popular at one point it will face more troubles then torrents since its drawback is that just ruin 1 or 10 small archives in a batch and boom all goes wrong.

Banzai to trials these usenet services give.:happy:

anon
10.11.20, 07:18
another thing bad about usenet is there is no dedicated one to specific content. the only specific one i have seen so far is anime tosho and the rest are all general.

Don't forget Kleverig :ugly_31: I made an account there when they had open registrations but lost it! Well, life goes on.

sashiagustina
06.12.20, 08:34
i wanted to try mratio with waffles method, what is the best speed and any specific torrent to be used for cheating (new/old, lot of peers/few of peers, huge size/small size) any best advice for this torrent in the end of 2020 ?

anon
07.12.20, 05:22
any best advice for this torrent in the end of 2020 ?

I have some advice, but it's only valid on early 2023 :weirdo: As I recall, one strategy that works fairly well to get upload here is ripping HD videos from streaming sites and uploading. Seems fairly cheap to me, but if the rules allow it...

sashiagustina
08.12.20, 05:56
We can download specific porn and maintaining ratio in this tracker is easy without even cheating, just upload content from original pornsite and of course you have to be very quick before the notorious uploaders upload it in the first place.

What if ? we want to download a huge amount of porn size, let's say we want download 900GB Siterip. Of course anykind of human (who has brain) uploading content to balance that ratio is not that easy because the size of porn we download.

Goodluck with downloading 900GB of Siterip and upload the same amount :stupid:

In other hand, we might familiar with "GHOSTLEECH".
The methods can be find by using search column.

The question are,
Does anyone ever ghostleeching in this tracker?
If Yes, What method did you used?
And what is the result ? Safe, Warned, or even Banned?

Please share your experience. thank you very much.

sashiagustina
08.12.20, 06:05
I have some advice, but it's only valid on early 2023
could you please share it?

yes i used of that strategy, since internet bandwith is sucks + have to organize every videos. i dont want to waste my time on that. i only uploaded around 1.5TB and believe it was tiring.

anon
08.12.20, 10:54
Goodluck with downloading 900GB of Siterip and upload the same amount :stupid:

That's unreal, don't they have freeleech for this sort of stuff?

Anyway, ghostleeching with the magnet link method (or a .torrent file obtained from an accomplice) is flawless if you build a peer list and change your IP first. But I wouldn't do it here, because 900 GB of upload to "no one" on a single torrent is unlikely to go unnoticed, and others may be blamed for your actions.

sashiagustina
08.12.20, 11:28
That's unreal, don't they have freeleech for this sort of stuff?

Anyway, ghostleeching with the magnet link method (or a .torrent file obtained from an accomplice) is flawless if you build a peer list and change your IP first. But I wouldn't do it here, because 900 GB of upload to "no one" on a single torrent is unlikely to go unnoticed, and others may be blamed for your actions.

not evey siterip has unlimited freelech, some uploaders divided into small parts, and by that the unlimited freeleech isnt available.
i mean real upload with real content would be super tiring ofc, as i mentioned before, not easy to get good content if there "SUPER" uploader. i dont know how he/she manage and comply to the rules so well, it's like automated software. just release and directly uploaded to the empornium. what the hell. of course if cheating 900GB lol that's insane hahahaha

the details of the method i believe you write (or compiled in another thread) there 4 methods if i am not mistaken.

DAMN I LOVE CHEATING! (on torrents)

sigduwksnsksis9283
08.12.20, 11:52
i mean real upload with real content would be super tiring ofc, as i mentioned before, not easy to get good content if there "SUPER" uploader. i dont know how he/she manage and comply to the rules so well,

I'm gonna disagree on first part, sure it is tiring if you look at it like a work for ratio.
for the second part its beyond easy. upload country material and you likely have thousands of content available since emp lacks country porn to a extent. for the third part it is likely they obsess over the site. the moment you see any normal user having lots of post just see them as aggressively addicted to the site. for emp you can do something that i do but this depends on your mindset of working with ok to normal ratio. you can fake seed alot of content that are freeleech. go to around 1tb seeding size or less or more whatever you wish but to a limit then earn those bonus points and if you visited the shop then you have seen that -download stuff so just buy it and download whatever you want to. you don't need to have an amazing ratio here since its porn site no one is gonna judge you with having low ratio. either way if you download locally the staff picks or sticked torrents im sure you will earn some upload with shit network speed anyways and keep the client version of what your downloading the same as your "local client".

happy cheating and goodluck.

sashiagustina
08.12.20, 12:08
I'm gonna disagree on first part, sure it is tiring if you look at it like a work for ratio.
for the second part its beyond easy. upload country material and you likely have thousands of content available since emp lacks country porn to a extent. for the third part it is likely they obsess over the site. the moment you see any normal user having lots of post just see them as aggressively addicted to the site. for emp you can do something that i do but this depends on your mindset of working with ok to normal ratio. you can fake seed alot of content that are freeleech. go to around 1tb seeding size or less or more whatever you wish but to a limit then earn those bonus points and if you visited the shop then you have seen that -download stuff so just buy it and download whatever you want to. you don't need to have an amazing ratio here since its porn site no one is gonna judge you with having low ratio. either way if you download locally the staff picks or sticked torrents im sure you will earn some upload with shit network speed anyways and keep the client version of what your downloading the same as your "local client".

happy cheating and goodluck.

disagree with you, uploading 900GB is really tiring, yes it is. i am talking about being uploader. not seeding other person's torrent and seeding without seedbox, goodluck with that and by the way, i wish i could upload "country" porn if it is allowed but it is not since it is a grey area. since a lot of country porn consider as an amateur and may not having agreement of releasing the content. check the rules. "No content filmed or released without consent by the model.
This includes voyeur where the people being filmed do not know they are being filmed.
If staff suspects no consent has been given, content will be removed until proof is given."
if the "country" porn came from industrial or they are really intend to sell their sexuality online (OF or anything else) then it is fine.

anon
08.12.20, 12:40
DAMN I LOVE CHEATING! (on torrents)

That's cute, just don't let it become your downfall.


i wish i could upload "country" porn if it is allowed but it is not since it is a grey area. since a lot of country porn consider as an amateur and may not having agreement of releasing the content. check the rules. "No content filmed or released without consent by the model.
This includes voyeur where the people being filmed do not know they are being filmed.
If staff suspects no consent has been given, content will be removed until proof is given."

That rule is meant to forbid revenge porn, (real) hidden cameras and stolen videos, not professionally produced ethnic and foreign movies which is what sigdu is referring to.

sigduwksnsksis9283
08.12.20, 13:16
disagree with you, uploading 900GB is really tiring,
Not its not, (example here) if you look at recent 4k remuxes for movies they are well beyond 100GB and and that goes to say each torrent will indefinitely give you more then just mere 1 ratio if you upload them but were talking about porn here. im gonna say that 4k porn and 4k packs can be beyond 1-2tb so for example lets take eimi fukada's actor rip is around 1 something tb. this single star's work can get you more then 900GB that goes to say something. just use 4k porn and your well good enough even if you upload 1-2 torrents a day you will surely earn. unless you hate the fact of sharing the content and just want ratio feel free to cheat on staff picks as they usually draw lots of seeders and leechers.

and for the uploading country part is what anon said.

in case you want to upload most torrents have 5-8 autoleechers so your gonna get upload amount for anything you upload.

sashiagustina
08.12.20, 13:26
Not its not, (example here) if you look at recent 4k remuxes for movies they are well beyond 100GB and and that goes to say each torrent will indefinitely give you more then just mere 1 ratio if you upload them but were talking about porn here. im gonna say that 4k porn and 4k packs can be beyond 1-2tb so for example lets take eimi fukada's actor rip is around 1 something tb. this single star's work can get you more then 900GB that goes to say something. just use 4k porn and your well good enough even if you upload 1-2 torrents a day you will surely earn. unless you hate the fact of sharing the content and just want ratio feel free to cheat on staff picks as they usually draw lots of seeders and leechers.

and for the uploading country part is what anon said.

in case you want to upload most torrents have 5-8 autoleechers so your gonna get upload amount for anything you upload.

taking screenthumbs of those videos is tiring :( and not to mention not every site provide "description"
i guess even being real uploader, RDP and VPS users won again. 900GB of packs will turn into upload amount in just a glance. fyi, my upload speed is 1.5MB :(
and btw where to download pornstar 4k pack. if it's a jav porn, ofc Sinderella yea ? but is there any free source other than this ?

maybe it's time to use rdp or vps :(

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That's cute, just don't let it become your downfall.



That rule is meant to forbid revenge porn, (real) hidden cameras and stolen videos, not professionally produced ethnic and foreign movies which is what sigdu is referring to.

hahaha i fail to understand what is "country". if it's ethnic, yes there are a lot. ASIAN (huge community) for example

anon
08.12.20, 14:46
taking screenthumbs of those videos is tiring :(


fyi, my upload speed is 1.5MB :(


maybe it's time to use rdp or vps :(

You know, I'm really curious to know how you got to Power User on RED in two weeks now.

sigduwksnsksis9283
08.12.20, 15:41
taking screenthumbs of those videos is tiring :( and not to mention not every site provide "description"
i guess even being real uploader, RDP and VPS users won again. 900GB of packs will turn into upload amount in just a glance. fyi, my upload speed is 1.5MB :(
and btw where to download pornstar 4k pack. if it's a jav porn, ofc Sinderella yea ? but is there any free source other than this ?

maybe it's time to use rdp or vps :(

JAVsites are widely available, i can recommend some sources but i doubt your gonna upload. so follow the other thing i said since i also have a slow speed we're on the same page and not so far.


You know, I'm really curious to know how you got to Power User on RED in two weeks now.
same:eek:.

sashiagustina
11.12.20, 10:50
You know

well, i can say, it is clean and cheap way. i was just patience of course, was uploading some of lossless music but it wasnt help much. so i tried to fulfill request (as i told you before) this was gave me "huge bounty" till i can reach PU and also not only PU. Now i am going to be TM (and thanks to arab lossless source for countless music) after passing elite rank. just matter of time :)) ,
as you mention before on somewhere post, many users are so lazy to digging deeper on the net just to find software, ebook, or music stuff. or maybe they are too generous giving away their credits to help us raise our rank (with some efforts). it's all a mystery. what's makes me so tired on EMP is Porn can be acquired everywhere. while lossless music cant (only on some private forums). and users on EMP (mostly) has GREAAAAT AMOUUNT of upload data. that's makes me feel like a tiny boy around the giant adult :))))
plus in R----E----D the amount of upload requirement is not so huge comparing to emp

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JAVsites are widely available
1080p and above resolution please with huge size files, sites, please.
since javsites on the net offering free download and streaming with low quality (even it says 1080p) and not to mention watermark and nonsense gambling ads.

do you have some legit source, i managed myself to download from hi7omis but i think the site is down. it was dedicated source of Hitomi Tanaka without ads in video and good resolution quality aswell

sigduwksnsksis9283
11.12.20, 11:09
haha nice to see a fellow watching hitomi :wwink:, i primarily use pornolab,sukebei,onejav,AVge,Nicept,exoticaz,javdb but im sure you already know of these and emp has little to ok amount of few popular jav star so feel free to grab uploads from sukebei then search its info in a javdb.

anon
11.12.20, 22:48
well, i can say, it is clean and cheap way. i was just patience of course, was uploading some of lossless music but it wasnt help much. so i tried to fulfill request (as i told you before) this was gave me "huge bounty" till i can reach PU and also not only PU. Now i am going to be TM (and thanks to arab lossless source for countless music) after passing elite rank. just matter of time :))

In other words, you did all the work you don't want to do at EMP, with the extra burden of having to find and upload specific requests rather than anything not already available :unsure:

Anyway, Hitomi Tanaka :wub: I'm mostly into 2D stuff but I still have all of her photosets, or should I say had them, because they were in my external hard disk that failed two days ago *sigh* Anyway, I'll just leave this here.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hitomi_Tanaka/
https://www.akiba-online.com/

There are JAV subreddits, but fragmentation and turnover seem high and I don't know which are the good ones at the moment, so feel free to investigate yourself. Also, I have this dream that /r/serafuku will reopen one day...

cirulilu
12.12.20, 00:24
Why would anyone want to cheat on EMP. Lots of permanent freeleches appear everyday and everything over 30GB is permanent freeleech. With a decent connection you will make upload no problem, to download something you don't find in those freeleech packs.

sashiagustina
13.12.20, 07:24
haha nice to see a fellow watching hitomi :wwink:, i primarily use pornolab,sukebei,onejav,AVge,Nicept,exoticaz,javdb but im sure you already know of these and emp has little to ok amount of few popular jav star so feel free to grab uploads from sukebei then search its info in a javdb.

Queen of JAV. who doesn't know her :P i also like Maria Yumeno (she is now retired), Marina Yuzuki, and Hana Haruna. but to be honest, is there any JAV Artist that can be equally compare to Queen Hitomi Tanaka ? believe or not, the best source of acquiring hitomi tanaka porn is 1337x.to there was a guy (lonelobo) uploading most complete works of her in great quality. se7enseas upload can't beat it. "Nicept" damn i missed the open registration date. Avgle is nice also but the quality is sucks, and it does not support videograbber IDM (last time i tried) but i use FFMPEG to download it :fap:

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In other words, you did all the work you don't want to do at EMP, with the extra burden of having to find and upload specific requests rather than anything not already available :unsure:

Anyway, Hitomi Tanaka :wub: I'm mostly into 2D stuff but I still have all of her photosets, or should I say had them, because they were in my external hard disk that failed two days ago *sigh* Anyway, I'll just leave this here.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hitomi_Tanaka/
https://www.akiba-online.com/

There are JAV subreddits, but fragmentation and turnover seem high and I don't know which are the good ones at the moment, so feel free to investigate yourself. Also, I have this dream that /r/serafuku will reopen one day...

want more discussion about hitomi tanaka ? scanlover is the place. some guy was having complete photoworks. that could be your backup plan. yeay, another hitomi tanaka lovers hahahahaha. btw i am sorry about your HDD, i know how it feels :( it's like loosing genital

anon
13.12.20, 20:20
but to be honest, is there any JAV Artist that can be equally compare to Queen Hitomi Tanaka ?

I'm sure the unwanted attention and back pain she has to deal with in her everyday life are also unparalleled :gcreepy:


want more discussion about hitomi tanaka ? scanlover is the place. some guy was having complete photoworks. that could be your backup plan. yeay, another hitomi tanaka lovers hahahahaha. btw i am sorry about your HDD, i know how it feels :( it's like loosing genital

I can just redownload them from Pornolab, not a problem there. It's most of the other data that worries me :gfrown:

sashiagustina
14.12.20, 00:44
I'm sure the unwanted attention and back pain she has to deal with in her everyday life are also unparalleled :gcreepy:

center of attraction, in public space, just like on her scene :gcreepy: and then unwanted ....... hahahaha. sometimes i laugh at first of the video, in what world nobody not even notice someone having sex in public transport

anon
14.12.20, 02:05
in what world nobody not even notice someone having sex in public transport

Porn is a fantasy, and this is part of that fantasy. I do agree that sometimes it's pushed to ridiculous extremes, but it looks like background characters are more deafblind than Metal Gear guards, because public sex never gets noticed :huh: The exception are NTR titles where the woman will be filmed by someone else who then uses the video as blackmail material (leading to more sex scenes).

sashiagustina
19.12.20, 05:37
Porn is a fantasy, and this is part of that fantasy. I do agree that sometimes it's pushed to ridiculous extremes, but it looks like background characters are more deafblind than Metal Gear guards, because public sex never gets noticed :huh: The exception are NTR titles where the woman will be filmed by someone else who then uses the video as blackmail material (leading to more sex scenes).

hahahahaha funny thing is when you mention Metal Gear guards. i like one of the Hitomi's Video where she got banged by all of the bus passenger. i think this video title is rare. i could even remeber. i found it on youjizz few years back. now i am looking into lonelobo's hitomi collection. found nothing :( maybe i dig myself into javlib or other javdatabase

anon
19.12.20, 18:00
i like one of the Hitomi's Video where she got banged by all of the bus passenger. i think this video title is rare. i could even remeber.

Possible matches: STAR-153, STAR-165. All far more realistic and feasible scenarios than ATID-192, in any case.

sashiagustina
20.12.20, 06:05
Possible matches: STAR-153, STAR-165. All far more realistic and feasible scenarios than ATID-192, in any case.

Don't you dareeeee! to mention ATID-192!!!! this title made me cum a lot! the video filter they used, made this video so realistic and at some points. i did really enjoy every seconds this tentacle cum. it is always came into my head, someone wearing tentacle alien costume and did the scene just like in anime hentai. which tentacles impregnated her, until her belly growing big. and also the alien distribute its cum to her mouth just like in "AVP: Requeiem". i like this cum. white and creamy. plus from Hitomi's side, her boobs super big than time compare to present time.

omg i like hitomi old movies, Queen of JAV. slim body huge tits.

thanks for the 153

dxdo
20.12.20, 08:22
Please help! me on ratio watch. want to back to normal ratio. how to cheat, pls help

sashiagustina
20.12.20, 12:43
Please help! me on ratio watch. want to back to normal ratio. how to cheat, pls help

why dont you use freeleech to download freebies and seed for amount of time. i suggest to take newly upload freeleech.

if you are wondering how to cheat here, you may find previous posts. But there is NO guarantee your account will not be disabled. i dont know also how strict EMP is. but here are some ways to get your ratio maintained.

1. Seeding with autosnacth of unlimited freelech (new) torrents
2. Uploading 4K vids or megapack or siterip
3. cheating with mratio
4. cheating with ratiomasterplus
5. cheating with biglybt

i only suggest 3 tools of cheating, because those are frequently updated tools and has updated clients spoof inside it.

dxdo
20.12.20, 14:10
thx for the info. but to be noted. i want to skip freeleeching n then seeding bc i don't want to spend credits for slot plus save my time.
and how to cheat with those tools? I've read about ratiomasterplus and mratio.
so we need to download client files? is that correct.

sashiagustina
20.12.20, 14:31
thx for the info. but to be noted. i want to skip freeleeching n then seeding bc i don't want to spend credits for slot plus save my time.
and how to cheat with those tools? I've read about ratiomasterplus and mratio.
so we need to download client files? is that correct.

i usually use mratio.
download client files (if not default not available)
download freeleech torrents with huge leechers
add the torrents to mratio as per sb-i instruction, you can see the instruction easily there
after that choose right click, waffless method and ok
normally i use 800KB/s with 5+torrents

no guarantee :)

dxdo
20.12.20, 15:01
no guarantee is safe. okay. duly noted.

anon
20.12.20, 20:17
Don't you dareeeee! to mention ATID-192!!!! this title made me cum a lot! the video filter they used, made this video so realistic and at some points. i did really enjoy every seconds this tentacle cum. it is always came into my head, someone wearing tentacle alien costume and did the scene just like in anime hentai. which tentacles impregnated her, until her belly growing big. and also the alien distribute its cum to her mouth just like in "AVP: Requeiem". i like this cum. white and creamy. plus from Hitomi's side, her boobs super big than time compare to present time.

The prop work was good, but I think tentacles and cumflation look too uncanny in 3D and are better off left to hentai.


thanks for the 153

You're welcome, I suppose that's the one you were looking for?


no guarantee is safe. okay. duly noted.

There are no guarantees for any kind of cheating on any tracker, if that's any consolation :gredface:

cirulilu
20.12.20, 22:55
Why cheat, freeleech everyday, just grab them as they come along. Get an inexpensive seedbox if your home connection sucks.
Also grab the 300 smallest torrents and seed them indefinitely, the points from seeding those are enough to maintain ratio.

sashiagustina
21.12.20, 03:00
The prop work was good, but I think tentacles and cumflation look too uncanny in 3D and are better off left to hentai.



You're welcome, I suppose that's the one you were looking for?

153 precisely :fap: , but if i am not mistaken, there is one more hitomi tanaka scene in bus
and about tentacle scene, no one compare to hitomi. not with this huge boobs slim body. i have downloaded almost all tentacle category in javlib. no compare :fap:

anon
21.12.20, 03:21
why dont you use freeleech to download freebies and seed for amount of time. i suggest to take newly upload freeleech.


Why cheat, freeleech everyday, just grab them as they come along.


Also grab the 300 smallest torrents and seed them indefinitely

I think both of you missed the part about being on ratio watch :ninja: The only non-cheating solutions in this case are seeding what you've downloaded, cross-seeding stuff available at other trackers in the same exact form, and uploading your own torrents. And you should always be doing the first one in any case, permaseeding builds buffer over time with minimal effort.


if i am not mistaken, there is one more hitomi tanaka scene in bus

Uh, maybe MIDD-903 or MIDE-253, I don't know.

sashiagustina
21.12.20, 05:04
I think both of you missed the part about being on ratio watch :ninja: The only non-cheating solutions in this case are seeding what you've downloaded, cross-seeding stuff available at other trackers in the same exact form, and uploading your own torrents. And you should always be doing the first one in any case, permaseeding builds buffer over time with minimal effort.



Uh, maybe MIDD-903 or MIDE-253, I don't know.
damn.... that is right. he is on ratiowatch. so cant download anything new instead of force-seeding downloaded torrents.
have you contact officials ? maybe they will give you christmas gift :)

no, not that one. ill update you

cirulilu
21.12.20, 14:00
But why did he get to be on ratio watch in the first place when just seeding 300 torrent which are less that 1MB can make you enough points to buy upload or 24h freeleech when needed.

@dxdo
Go on their forums, look for threads where people ask/beg for bonus points. Maybe someone will gift you some bp.

dxdo
21.12.20, 14:01
what is other site that I could use for cross-seed ? i need up-to-date or even 0day porn. pls helppp
yes, i wish i can get one of Christmas gift

sashiagustina
21.12.20, 15:55
what is other site that I could use for cross-seed ? i need up-to-date or even 0day porn. pls helppp
yes, i wish i can get one of Christmas gift

pornolab maybe ? not sure it is 0day but it is good tracker of porn. might have some contents that never appears in emp

cirulilu
21.12.20, 18:33
what is other site that I could use for cross-seed ? i need up-to-date or even 0day porn. pls helppp
yes, i wish i can get one of Christmas gift
How much GB do you need to get out of ratio watch?

anon
21.12.20, 18:52
i need up-to-date or even 0day porn.

Well, that limits you to almost every general tracker on existence... anyway, while Pornolab is great, I can't recommend it in this context because they take longer to get new stuff (also, if you've never had an account, new users are limited to 5 torrent grabs per day). I'd start with PussyTorrents or Zamunda, both of which have open signups. Maybe find some hacked porn passes and upload their latest videos before others do.

sashiagustina
21.12.20, 19:14
Well, that limits you to almost every general tracker on existence... anyway, while Pornolab is great, I can't recommend it in this context because they take longer to get new stuff (also, if you've never had an account, new users are limited to 5 torrent grabs per day). I'd start with PussyTorrents or Zamunda, both of which have open signups. Maybe find some hacked porn passes and upload their latest videos before others do.

alerts!!! i have detected addiction of using openbullet, sentrymba, silverbullet, blackbullet, storm hehehehe
and try to fing 5Kporn :) upload that! booooom! welcome to the hood

JohnareyouOK
27.12.20, 18:15
was just reading luminance's code. besides the conventional detection of over speeding (https://github.com/Empornium/Luminance/blob/master/application/Legacy/sections/tools/managers/speed_cheats.php), about this "speed_zerocheats.php (https://github.com/Empornium/Luminance/blob/master/application/Legacy/sections/tools/managers/speed_zerocheats.php)", am I misunderstanding or what? Is this anti-zerocheats code merely detecting tracker members whose accounts are in the initial state (0 downloaded and 500M uploaded (https://github.com/Empornium/Luminance/blob/4323529e25931f32f47b0cadef5c8d52fe809bb9/application/Legacy/sections/tools/managers/speed_zerocheats.php#L101)) and are fake seeding now? that's all? Where's the code detecting ghostleeching and WM (if exists as #63 (https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?28831-Cheating-on-new-empornium&p=346050&viewfull=1#post346050) said)? not open source?

Also do you guys think is it safe to fake seeding with 0.9kB/s upload speed on mass torrents (with zero leechers) for a long time? (under the premise that the total uploaded is reasonable, eg torrent ratio does not exceed 0.1, and maybe using WM to be shown as 0kb/s in peerlist if necessary) generally speaking, not specifically on emp.

anon
27.12.20, 23:11
am I misunderstanding or what? Is this anti-zerocheats code merely detecting tracker members whose accounts are in the initial state (0 downloaded and 500M uploaded (https://github.com/Empornium/Luminance/blob/4323529e25931f32f47b0cadef5c8d52fe809bb9/application/Legacy/sections/tools/managers/speed_zerocheats.php#L101)) and are fake seeding now? that's all?

Look closer and you'll see that the amount of torrents the member has been a peer on and the amount of grabbed .torrent files are also considered :richter: This code is meant to find accounts whose behavior correlates with ghostleeching.


Where's the code detecting ghostleeching and WM (if exists as #63 (https://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?28831-Cheating-on-new-empornium&p=346050&viewfull=1#post346050) said)? not open source?

I wouldn't use that post as a reference for anything, since as I said before, "it's clear from their previous reply that they were completely unfamiliar with [the Waffles method] and likely got the steps wrong".


Also do you guys think is it safe to fake seeding with 0.9kB/s upload speed on mass torrents (with zero leechers) for a long time? (under the premise that the total uploaded is reasonable, eg torrent ratio does not exceed 0.1, and maybe using WM to be shown as 0kb/s in peerlist if necessary) generally speaking, not specifically on emp.

That's the slow and steady method, and it even worked on What.cd. The obvious downside is that you'll need to either be very patient or have many active torrents.

JohnareyouOK
28.12.20, 00:09
Look closer and you'll see that the amount of torrents the member has been a peer on and the amount of grabbed .torrent files are also considered :richter: This code is meant to find accounts whose behavior correlates with ghostleeching.Yeah, saw those two filters. If staff simply searches with these "the initial state + seeding status" filter, it will return bunch of invalid results, so coder seems add these two variables in order to reduce the noise (newbie members without using sites). staff can manually input these 2 variables to filter. but core search factor is still those two, which seems a bit disappointing if it's true ...... how can our fellows be idiot enough to mass ghostleeching but without downloading 1bit? when first saw the name "zero cheats", I thought it's for detecting "fake seeding with 0 up/down", which is super impressing if truly achieved.


That's the slow and steady method, and it even worked on What.cd. The obvious downside is that you'll need to either be very patient or have many active torrents.
Thanks, Would a normal client also behave this way (Report a small amount of uploaded even when there aren't any leechers)? seem to have seen this happened in my client, but not sure.

anon
28.12.20, 00:28
but core search factor is still those two, which seems a bit disappointing if it's true ...... how can our fellows be idiot enough to mass ghostleeching but without downloading 1bit?

As I recall, last year or so there was an "operation" against some private trackers to download all of their stuff and archive it on external hosts, through massive ghostleeching on fresh accounts. I'm not sure if it affected EMP or how successful it was in the first place, but the stock source would have easily detected those accounts as they had zero traffic with hundreds of .torrent file grabs.

Also, this is open source code. If it doesn't do something you want or the way you want it, you can mod it so that it does =]


Would a normal client also behave this way (Report a small amount of uploaded even when there aren't any leechers)?

Under exceptional circumstances, negligible amounts of overhead traffic can be reported as upload, but this is very rare and definitely does not occur on a constant basis. The one thing that makes this method safe is the simple fact that 0.9 KB/s equates to ~3.16 MB per hour per torrent, which is extremely low and unlikely to get noticed even by automated scripts.

cirulilu
28.12.20, 00:55
Cheat all you want, it's freeleech

sashiagustina
28.12.20, 01:10
be careful and safety first

MongoD
27.01.21, 02:53
alerts!!! i have detected addiction of using openbullet, sentrymba, silverbullet, blackbullet, storm hehehehe
and try to fing 5Kporn :) upload that! booooom! welcome to the hood

Where do you get configs and combos from ? :P

GroundUser
06.06.23, 15:36
Hi. I've been using mRatio for around two - three weeks now. I use it on HD-Torrents, FileList, TorrentLeech and IPTorrents. So far, i've had no issues. Never had a message by any moderator on any of the following sites. I'm not part of any of the holy grail torrenting sites like PTP, Empornium, GazelleGames, those type of sites. But i was thinking of joining Empornium. I've saw they're screenshots of rules and they say that they "Catch cheaters for sport everyday" and i'd like to know how accurate that statement is.

Has anyone used mRatio on Empornium before? And has anyone ever been caught and banned doing so? And if you do use mRatio on Empornium and haven't been caught, which upload/download speeds do you use, and which would you consider to be the safest to use? The sites i use don't seem to have very good security, especially TorrentLeech. And i think that's how i've never been caught. (I download around 15 - 20 torrents on each site and upload them all each at around 500kbps.) But because Empornium is a big very popular private tracker, i'd automatically assume they have very tight and very good security and would be good at catching cheaters.

(P.S my upload speed absolutely sucks, and mRatio is the only way i can survive on private trackers. And i'm too broke to buy VIP on Empornium, i don't really have a lot of money, otherwise i'd just pay for the VIP allowing me to get unlimited HnR's.)

anon
07.06.23, 03:02
You haven't joined EMP yet? That means you have plenty of time to read this thread and all the other documentation available in the forum :wwink:

GroundUser
07.06.23, 13:24
No, i've not joined yet. I'm not part of any of the big trackers like PassThePopcorn, GazelleGames, RED, those big ones. I'm only part of HD-Torrents, FileList, IPTorrents and TorrentLeech. I was wondering how strict Empornium's security is, and if they are good at catching cheaters. As they make a bold statement in their rules section saying they "Catch cheaters for sport every day." I just wanted to know how accurate that statement is.

I usually download around 20 - 30 torrents from each site and seed them at between 200 - 500 kbps each. Evenly spreading low upload speeds around all of them instead of having like 5 torrents going at high upload speeds increasing the chance of me getting caught. Do you have any experience with cheating on Empornium?

anon
08.06.23, 10:19
Do you have any experience with cheating on Empornium?

Never had to; you'll get far if you take advantage of freeleech and permaseeding and have a minimally decent upload speed (not sure what your definition of "absolutely sucks" is, mine would be "lower than 100 KB/s"). Uploading your own torrents is another possibility, as long as you follow their strict rules. Anyway, this thread proves cheating is not terribly difficult.

Also, I'm no longer a member, I just liked Pornolab more =]

GroundUser
08.06.23, 19:05
you'll get far if you take advantage of freeleech and permaseeding and have a minimally decent upload speed

So would it be safe to assume that the best way for me to not get caught would be to seed multiple torrents at very low speeds, say 200kbps each? That way i'm accumulating a lot of upload as i'm seeding plenty of other torrents all at the same time?

And also, do you think it's dangerous to use high download speeds with mRatio? Like faking download a torrent at around 10mb a second if it has over say for example, 300 seeders? Or is it better to play safe and download at low speeds too?

anon
09.06.23, 01:33
There's one part of the equation you may not be considering.

How will even "very low [upload] speeds" look for you if no one else is downloading anything?
How will "high download speeds" (or any at all) look for you if no one else is uploading anything?

You're used to trackers with lots of peer activity that make it easier to blend in, but EMP is smaller. Keep that in mind when picking torrents.

GroundUser
09.06.23, 12:26
Yes, i know. I never download torrents that have 0 seeders, nor do i fake upload when the torrent has 0 leechers. Because that's a guaranteed detection on a site like Empornium. I'll only fake upload if there is more than 5 leechers, and i'll only upload at around 10kbps a second. I'm part of a tracker called HD-Torrents. It's a small private tracker i'm sure you've probably heard of it, the content is actually alright but the peer activity is very low. I've been in the tracker for almost a week and the most seeders i've seen on a torrent is 24 and the most leechers was around 12. And that was for a John Wick movie in 4k, very popular movie right now. I've managed to pick up 1.3tb upload in around a week by seeding 3 movies that had around 5-10 leechers each at around 200kbps. The peer activity is crazy low on there, so i'm just patiently waiting till a new movie or TV show episode comes out so i can quickly hop on and blend in. One thing i do have is patience, and something like mRatio requires patience. So i guess that's one good quality i have, i'm not in any rush to get crazy high upload speeds straight away.

anon
10.06.23, 02:34
I'll only fake upload if there is more than 5 leechers, and i'll only upload at around 10kbps a second.

Good, just beware of packs.


One thing i do have is patience, and something like mRatio requires patience. So i guess that's one good quality i have, i'm not in any rush to get crazy high upload speeds straight away.

Also good (and fortunately, EMP is at least more active than HD-T).

GroundUser
10.06.23, 14:37
I have a question about these big popular trackers. (Like Empornium and Redacted) When these sites choose to recruit new members, or they allow interviews, what type of proof will they ask of me? Will they ask to see all of the torrents i'm actively seeding in my torrent client? Or will they just ask to see a speed test along with links to my profiles across other trackers?

anon
10.06.23, 15:55
Requirements for RED are laid out on their official interview site. As for recruitment on other trackers, we have a thread documenting those; the only "proofs" you may be asked for are profile links or reducing your paranoia level (if applicable), as being able to access the recruitment threads in the first place already provides some assurance about yourself.

GroundUser
12.06.23, 17:02
Also. When using mRatio, should i set the upload emulator seperate from my downloading client?

What i mean is, i use Qbittorrent for my real downloads like on public and private trackers. So if i want to actually download a file off of a private tracker then use mRatio to fake the upload, should i emulate the torrent to some other client? Or should i emulate the torrent to Qbittorrent client as that would have been the client i used to download the torrent for real?