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The Shutter
19.08.11, 18:26
anyone tried to cheat there ?
i'm sure i've cheated there but i don't remember the info ... i'm cheating to get promoted there to get invite :biggrin:

The Shutter
12.09.11, 09:55
MR + WM @ pack torrents @ <2mb/s works fine.

flowerorange
12.09.11, 19:53
Did you jump to seed ?

The Shutter
13.09.11, 01:38
jump as a seeder is risky , since there's stuff not available on other sites or stuff available on other trackers but packed or unpacked ...etc , you have to check before you do it.

Sgroppino
16.01.12, 19:16
Did anyone try to use Ratio Tool with VEM? Using both fake download and fake upload?

Großmutter
16.01.12, 20:23
Have flash 300 gb with ratiomaster emu rtorrent ,stop before update!

flowerorange
18.01.12, 14:23
Is is true that a gazelle based tracker wouldn't have script to detect cheating in the first place unless they put their own code in it ?
We known that What.CD is one of the most toughest tracker to cheat on ,in the other hand, btn and sinderella are both easy cheating trackers.

anon
18.01.12, 17:45
Is is true that a gazelle based tracker wouldn't have script to detect cheating in the first place unless they put their own code in it ?

There is basic anti-cheating code in Gazelle, but that's disabled by default. So the answer is essentially "yes".

flowerorange
18.01.12, 19:29
There is basic anti-cheating code in Gazelle, but that's disabled by default. So the answer is essentially "yes".

I have downloaded the Gazelle code from here (https://code.google.com/p/gazellewhatcd/downloads/list), but I can't find out anything about anti-cheating script..Maybe its not a complete version.
Anyway, what exactly is the basic anti-cheating script on Gazelle ,Anon..;)

anon
18.01.12, 19:29
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=14576

houseonfire
04.06.12, 08:42
Have flash 300 gb with ratiomaster emu rtorrent ,stop before update!
I have read this many times on these forums but never really understood this. What does 'stop before update' mean?
I used to think update is same as client/mod announcing the upload/download amount to the tracker. Do I have to stop the torrent before the actual update time that is do a manual update? Or do I have to stop the client from updating at all? If I stop it from updating, it won't send anything to tracker and no upload will be added, then how is this useful. I think it has something to do with no appearing on the peerlist with a huge upload amount but no update = no upload announcement, so what is the purpose of this? I have looked in many thread but can't understand this. Please help me :confused:

I found this in the gazelle analysis topic (http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=14576)


Every day and every hour, a script dump your ratio history to database.
This is what the script log :
- UserID
- Uploaded
- Downloaded
- UpChange
- DownChange
- Time
The log is stored separately, so at day 20 a staff can still see how much you upload / download at day 5.

So, if someone flashes, then does it log that a huge amount is uploaded in small time interval? Then why does flash work on sinderella?
If anyone knows please reply. Just a slight explanation on what 'stop before update' means will help me a lot.

flowerorange
04.06.12, 12:52
but never really understood this. What does 'stop before update' mean?
If you let the client update automatically, the upload speed and upload amount would be shown in the peerlist. So you may get caught if someone saw this abnormal speed.
When you stop the torrent, the client would update the amount and tell the tracker that the torrent is stopped. So your username would be removed from the peerlist.
"stop before update" is a good method to make sure the cheating unseen on the peerlist.

Anyway, some trackers also have script to check every announcement sent from the client in order to catch the cheaters.
Even if the upload state cannot be seen on pearlist, the crazy speed announcements would be detected by script and reported to the staff..
Some lazy staffs dont have to watch the peerlist all the time, they have script to help them catch cheaters.

houseonfire
04.06.12, 14:31
oh, thank you very much. I used to think tracker takes me off from the peerlist only when my client doesn't send any more announcements and some timeout is caused. I didn't realise it happens even when someone stops the torrent.
This also helped me to understand the waffles method :D

anon
04.06.12, 15:04
Please help me :confused:

If anyone knows please reply.

Don't worry, they usually do even if you don't write this :wtongue:

houseonfire
06.06.12, 14:47
Stoping before update doesn't seem to work. When I start the download it shows me in peerlist with 0kb up and 0kb down. This gets updated the next time my client does an announce. If I stop the torrent before that, it shows me in peerlist as 'Active : No' and 'Connectable: Yes (because I have other torrents seeding)'. And it takes a long time for my username to get off the peerlist after stopping the torrent. So, how am I supposed to use the stop before update thing properly?

TvFan
06.06.12, 16:08
i used to cheat there long ago and i got caught and banned and ip disable lol
i think u can use ratiomaster 1.9.1 cuz i was using that before i got caught

anon
06.06.12, 19:47
i used to cheat there long ago and i got caught

Very detailed, I'll try not to do the same :wtongue:

TvFan
06.06.12, 20:03
Very detailed, I'll try not to do the same :wtongue:
u r write anon with more banned's u get for experience like i got banned there twice and after that got the result to not to cheat there again lol

houseonfire
07.06.12, 01:12
Any solutions to my problem?

Stoping before update doesn't seem to work. When I start the download it shows me in peerlist with 0kb up and 0kb down. This gets updated the next time my client does an announce. If I stop the torrent before that, it shows me in peerlist as 'Active : No' and 'Connectable: Yes (because I have other torrents seeding)'. And it takes a long time for my username to get off the peerlist after stopping the torrent. So, how am I supposed to use the stop before update thing properly?

Please help :mad:

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i got caught and banned and ip disable lol
If you get caught, they ban ip?:eek:

anon
07.06.12, 03:07
If I stop the torrent before that, it shows me in peerlist as 'Active : No' and 'Connectable: Yes (because I have other torrents seeding)'. And it takes a long time for my username to get off the peerlist after stopping the torrent.

That's standard Gazelle behavior and cannot be avoided.

jimit1711
07.06.12, 08:50
I know how to add up upload there. The only thing that i need some help on is how to get invites. I have a old account. How do you get invites!! Korean is super hard to understand. Even after google translation.

houseonfire
07.06.12, 12:13
That's standard Gazelle behavior and cannot be avoided.
well then what is the point of sotpping before update since I am already visible to anyone visiting the peerlist :mad:

anon
07.06.12, 14:48
well then what is the point of sotpping before update

Keeping a good habit? :unsure:

Makeawish
08.07.12, 12:19
Has anyone actually have any success with this tracker? It looks really risky...

teramera
19.08.12, 12:46
From what I have learned from this post is that yes some people have cheated on this tracker but what I am interested in is how to get bonus points on this tracker> That involves getting registered on the tracker as a seeder, for that I must download a torrent using mratio. So what should be the upload speed & download speed. Yes I know it depends on the torrent itself but let us assume there are 20 seeders & 10 leechers on a torrent then what should speeds should I use?? I have read here that whatever you want to download or upload it before announcement of tracker in mratio, so should i keep my download & upload speeds high just until the announcement gets done, & then lower speed at time of announcement & then again increase speed after announcement.
I also would like yto know what is waffles method & how to use it, what are its advantages. If this question has been answetred somewhere else plz give me some link to that post.
I know anon is the mastermind here, & would appreciate answers from him.
Thanks

anon
19.08.12, 18:33
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=19998
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=12494

Have fun :happy:

anon
23.02.13, 02:04
I made an account here today, to see what all the fuss was about... turns out they had opened because they lost all their torrents.

teramera
23.02.13, 10:54
Yeah true only 5-10 torrents there

stevenv
23.02.13, 18:24
I guess its a decoy page until you become a full member

solarspeed comments on Sinderella is open. (http://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/192oxi/sinderella_is_open/c8kbzx9?context=3)

flowerorange
27.02.13, 17:34
I made an account here today, to see what all the fuss was about... turns out they had opened because they lost all their torrents.

It is a mirror of the real tracker.
You have to do some sort of Mission to be a formal member..Seems like some RPG games.
here is the URL that have to click to get 10 mission acomplished.

http://open.sinderella.me/notice.php

http://open.sinderella.me/wiki.php?action=article&id=25

http://open.sinderella.me/rules.php?p=invite

http://open.sinderella.me/forums.php?action=viewforum&forumid=3

http://open.sinderella.me/bonus.php

http://open.sinderella.me/credit.php

http://open.sinderella.me/rules.php?p=clients

http://open.sinderella.me/inbox.php?action=compose&to=1

http://open.sinderella.me/forums.php?action=new&forumid=5

http://open.sinderella.me/torrents.php?id=1

anon
27.02.13, 18:04
I ain't got time for games :snooty:

I've already given my account away, but thanks for the information!

koel
01.03.13, 12:25
I ain't got time for games :snooty:

I've already given my account away, but thanks for the information!

HEHE! I got the full version in 2 days like they said!
Anyway I guess no asian porn 4 u anon ...

system28
02.03.13, 10:30
Hey anon, too bad your account had no full member status. Now its to late to convert it to full member. :(

blacksox
02.03.13, 13:26
Most likely the person he gave it too converted it.

system28
02.03.13, 13:44
Well, the person is me!

But I thought the account is already full member.

anon
02.03.13, 17:47
Well, I guess no asian porn for you either. :lol:

I didn't know about this "prove yourself"(?) procedure when I registered. I saw almost no torrents, and that was in line with what I had heard about losing them all without a backup, which is why I didn't bother with the account.

leus
02.03.13, 18:10
You guys could try to get into MTTP it's an easy to get alternative.

koel
02.03.13, 19:11
I found out it is easy to make ratio with no fake

illusive
14.03.13, 13:31
Flashing high upload like 700 Gb doesn't work there.

THC
16.03.13, 15:38
Flashing high upload like 700 Gb doesn't work there.

That was to be expected since it's on gazelle

csverona05
27.03.13, 19:32
Waffles method works fine here with speeds betwin 2-3 mb ,and ratio not bigger than 2.

koel
23.06.13, 15:53
got disabled on sindi with no cheating & regular logging in . H&R? no idea I can't understand any of the text & don't care unless it gives me a big warning .

bjs
25.06.13, 18:21
got disabled on sindi with no cheating & regular logging in . H&R? no idea I can't understand any of the text & don't care unless it gives me a big warning .
Just found out that my account was disabled too - registered last time they opened, only downloaded/uploaded a few GBs, never cheated, and ratio should be greater than 1. Do they delete your account for low activity or are there any other reasons?

Großmutter
25.06.13, 22:57
i had 3 accounts ,all disable( i think for inactivity)

THC
29.06.13, 11:49
Yeah, they disabled all the accounts that had no recent activity (downloading torrents, seeding...).

maniak
07.07.13, 00:19
Yeah, they disabled all the accounts that had no recent activity (downloading torrents, seeding...).

LOL me too