View Full Version : Should SB-I's registration form have an IQ test?
So that we don't get people like iMkNoWn who don't even read the fucking thread, hop to ask their noob questions, act like idiots when we point that out, and then proceed to flame me staff via PM.
What do you think?
If that doesn't work out, I think ghostfucker is working on a vBulletin Extreme Mod that will give you an electrical shock every time you do something stupid (only compatible with USB mice so far).
What kind of questions would there be?
And I love the alternative that ghostfucker is working on :D
In my opinion, this won't solve the "global internet noobs crisis", it will piss new honest members, because me and probably others like clean, fast and easy registrations,
So if the registration form was hard/time consuming/needs a lot of refreshing(trying) I'd say screw it and find my stuff somewhere else.
A member who makes (something stupid/a lot of stupid things) which can't be forgiven will get banned.
What kind of questions would there be?
1. can you tell the difference between other objects and yourself? (Yes/No)
2. if so, do you have basic knowledge of English? (Yes/No)
3. if so, does it encompass the meanings of the verb "search" and the adverb "carefully"? (Yes/No)
4. are you able to use them in a grammatically correct sentence (e.g. "Search carefully")? (Yes/No)
5. do you think those terms would be relevant to your SB-I posting experience as a whole? (Yes/No)
6. would the people you know define you as lazy? (Yes/No)
7. are you a member of law enforcement or anti-piracy agencies, or a staff member in a music tracker? (Yes/No)
8. is this question filler just to that it reaches 10 questions? (Yes/No)
9. did you even expect this list to have 10 questions? (Yes/No)
10. no, seriously? (Yes/No)
When the form is submitted, the contents of the form are analyzed by a parser written in ASM which possesses full artificial intelligence and decision-making abilities. Each answer is given a score which is evaluated against a minimum required amount. If the subject fails validation, we'll ban his IP, and use cookies, Flash LSOs, DOM storage, force-cached objects, the CSS leak, IE UserData and Silverlight storage to prevent him from registering for the following 24 hours.
If the registrar is found to cheat on the test, registration will be allowed, but the system will cause him to run out of luck. You don't want to know what this implies.
And I love the alternative that ghostfucker is working on :D
PS/2 and touchpad support coming soon.
In my opinion, this won't solve the "global internet noobs crisis", it will piss new honest members, because me and probably others like clean, fast and easy registrations,
We believe people with cognitive abilities developed enough to be constructive lurkers or semi-constructive posters will be able to pass the test without problems.
So if the registration form was hard/time consuming/needs a lot of refreshing(trying) I'd say screw it and find my stuff somewhere else.
Try finding out stuff somewhere else, chap. :shifty:
A member who makes (something stupid/a lot of stupid things) which can't be forgiven will get banned.
The idea is banning them before they can even register. For a cleaner SB-Innovation™.
Thanks for all the "thanks", I didn't even think you'd like this so much :gtongue:
2. if so, do you have basic knowledge of English? (Yes/No)
Or German?
The .de guys wouldn't even see the test as they're mostly cool. Look at all those politics and BT drama threads. Everything squeaky clean. :yup:
Ooohhh LaaLaa.
I love stuff about idiocy quotients ( err...that's IQ, if you didn't actually realize that).
One thing that might be stressed in the IQ test is to tell them that the excessive strain on their brain is healthy and makes them smarter. This in addition that their IQ score will be anywhere below their expectations and that if their IQ score is anywhere below 2 we would consider them clinically disabled. We should back this up with some scientific data published in the psychiatric journal Big-Juggs (http://block.opendns.com/main?url=67747215758672728415688078&ablock=), that over 99% of people with IQ scores between 120 and 130 have IQ scores of between 120 and 130.
Also, the questions need to be simpler:
*If a chicken-and-a-half lays an egg in an half-in-hour and a-half, how many pancakes will it take to shingle my dog's house?? Estimate your answer and round to the nearest nano-thousandth.
**Show all work on the margin of your computer screen.
**We check.
*Calculate the square root of blue and multiply it by any secondary color (use red). Show all work with crayon in the correct color of your answer.
*Only using triangles, prove that the sky is blue.
I don't think there's a point. Even if you put 10 feet blinking neon sign with arrows pointing to it saying "use search" there will always come someone that feels too important and unique to bother with it. You can't really educate all the idiots in the world, and that's a fact of life. That's why gods of boards invented banhammers.
for the german User make @v6ph1 the question, he is our Professor :richter:
regards
for the german User make @v6ph1 the question, he is our Professor :richter:
Should I?
For sure then the registration count per day will fall to 0.
@Topic:
It can be really good to have such a test.
This should prevent a lot of spam and flameswars.
best regards
v6ph1
Should I?
For sure then the registration count per day will fall to 0.
http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=10532
We believe people with cognitive abilities developed enough to be constructive lurkers or semi-constructive posters will be able to pass the test without problems.
I must have questioned what questions will be put in the new registration form,
but yoco asked first.
now I think it shouldn't be a big deal...but still annoying :P
Try finding out stuff somewhere else, chap. :shifty:
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The idea is banning them before they can even register. For a cleaner SB-Innovation™.
ok, good luck then :P
*turns from "against" to "with"*
I must have questioned what questions will be put in the new registration form,
but yoco asked first.
now I think it shouldn't be a big deal...but still annoying :P
Once SB-I is acquired by Google, we'll have an algorithm that automatically traces your IP and uses cookies to determine whether you should see the test to begin with.
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Sorry, I meant "our" - that typo kind of changed the whole sense of my sentence. :gredface:
ok, good luck then :P
*turns from "against" to "with"*
:whooray:
I'm to imprees the question on SB-I, the question to don't places that the User search the solution @google!
the question must specialized to the torrent-scene including cautious about cheaten and other, but they must answer the question "What do you think about SB-I?" "What is in your opinion SB-I?"
And so it's our staff to relinquish if this answer right or not.
so we can better to select the User...
best regards and I wish @all happy Easter
PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)
Resurrection
22.04.11, 11:56
I'm to imprees the question on SB-I, the question to don't places that the User search the solution @google!
the question must specialized to the torrent-scene including cautious about cheaten and other, but they must answer the question "What do you think about SB-I?" "What is in your opinion SB-I?"
And so it's our staff to relinquish if this answer right or not.
so we can better to select the User...
best regards and I wish @all happy Easter
PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)
http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=10437
image (http://www.sb-innovation.de/members/resurrection-albums-just-smiles-picture10437-46723487-e6ba-9d8e.jpg)
His post is actually understandable for me... although I don't think we can ask people what SB-I is on their eyes when they've yet to finish registering. We'd get either insincere or brutally honest replies. :lol:
It's like when PTN asked applicants "if you had to tell a friend about us, what would you tell him" when they hadn't even joined. :wtongue:
The best way to deal with noobies is to show him one or two Snitlev's post & ask him "Decipher this to me" ( @Snitlev .j/k buddy :) )
Anyways, i think we were all noobs at one or the other time in our life. Having an IQ test kinda thing would scare away even serious users who are willing to join. IMO, give 1 or 2 warnings, if he/she continues ban for 1 or 2 weeks.
On a second thought, just like we have automerge post system, wouldn't it be possible to have a system which basically searches for noob strings/literals contained in the noob post & then strikes on the noob/idiots user's face letmegooglethatforyou kind of notification. (http://lmgtfy.com/)
Basically recognize noobish literals/strings , like " Where do i get this or how do i do this" .. if the post contains such stuff, restrict the user from posting it. So that staff don't have to intervene.
You could just have a basic introductory post that includes the basics on how to cheat, and quiz people on that. It could have an index at the bottom to commonly asked questions. That might cut down on the repetition.
But yeah, you'll probably scare off a few.
You forgot to mention: Do you like annoying people?:lol:
Anyway bad idea.A lot of us were noobs, especially me, and without asking a lot of questions at first I would never get where I am.
Thank God, no more mobile. So as I was saying, we must teach users how to act and how to use the forum not give them IQ tests... How do you know somebody with a big IQ will not ask stupid questions? Or be just lazy and not want to search for what he is looking?
Thank God, no more mobile. So as I was saying, we must teach users how to act and how to use the forum not give them IQ tests... How do you know somebody with a big IQ will not ask stupid questions? Or be just lazy and not want to search for what he is looking?
In case you didn't notice, I was being facetious when I made this thread. :happy:
Of course, there have been some interesting and constructive posts, so we may alter the registration process based on the feedback received. Stay tuned :shifty:
sbi will grow faster if it stays open. if there is so much noobs it might take down the server if they try to pass the IQ test for 1 week lol
don't even read the fucking thread, hop to ask their noob questions
Ahh good old times :lol:
act like idiots when we point that out, and then proceed to flame me staff via PM.
That's not a matter of intelligence,it's a matter "y u no respect others" and inability to communicate what you have to say to others without insulting them.
I'm not familiar with the case you offered as example and I had my problems in the past but I think an IQ test isn't a solution.
Plus,we all know most of the new users join only got the mods. :dabs:
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That's not a matter of intelligence,it's a matter "y u no respect others" and inability to communicate what you have to say to others without insulting them.....
That's right. As a matter of fact, it should be noted with E-X-T-R-E-M-E urgency that n00bs are, under no circumstances ever to be communicated to, until we know for certain that their brains have blown to bits and have ooze coming out their ears.
How to deal with n00bs, you ask?? (other than my previous post above)
My solution delves into the most devilish of means.
I believe that the most anticipated way of the year to deal with n00bs will be to have them running into concrete walls while turning off your own computer (since they can't communicate with you any-longer now) to prevent grammatically incorrect language overloads.
This produces high levels of n00b-frustration.
Closely followed by getting them 'n00b-pi$$ed"...like when Americans elected George Dubya Bush. ....
Americans were pi$$ed.
Test the following methods to determine if you've encountered a n00b utilizing n00berisms.
1. For Mexicans ( Hi Blocker:biggrinflip:),this generally also includes South Americans such as Argentinians, they are known to start with " Hey Gringo!! Nosotros somos n00blamos"
2. For Americans, closely followed by Canucks, both known to be the worst offenders of n00berisms, one can tell their being a n00b when they disrupt the overall "happy" time of some overseas server. (Like in Luxembourg, for example). Subsequently causing chaos and henceforth getting 'kicked' or banned by hard-core Europeans.
I should quickly add that only a few such Americans and Canucks actually hold non-n00beristic traits.
3. The French ( Mon Dieu!! Especially the French)and other Europeans, this includes Romanians of course, are known to be most bothersome. It's probably because they just learning how to speak. For them to think that they're texting/ posting/ talking like a normal person is actually to hear them talk like they're talking underwater.
Just remember.
To get even with n00bs, one needs to look at strategy and consequence.
Don't pwn your nemesis (read n00b) too soon. You'll want time to gloat before taking action.
supermarrioh
24.04.11, 14:42
We once were invite-only. Why not to be again, like What.cd with an IRC-Interview?
Only if you'd be an interviewer. :shifty:
We once were invite-only. Why not to be again, like What.cd with an IRC-Interview?
Only if you'd be an interviewer. :shifty:
Like T-I this?
Tell us about yourself
I'm Xiao Shin, from PRC, pleased to meet you.
Let us do some kung-fu.
Do you use your T-I SB-I username on any tracker or bittorrent related site?
No
How long have you been in the torrent world?
http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=10551 years.
Do you understand our rules on spamming? If yes, what are they?
Yes, never spam in serious threads/sections.
Have you ever traded invites before? ((Yes OR Yes))
Yes
What trackers are you a part of?
FTN, Exigo, TT, TTC,SCT and another FTN.
What country do you live in? *optional
PRC
I have read the rules and the Secret Password is
presidenttitle
Photoshop a ratio proof (make sure it isn't detectable with the naked eye)
*img1*
*img2*
Attach a fake speedtest
*speedtest*
What is your favorite cheating tool/client
*tool name here*
Should SB-I's registration form have an IQ test?
no, such a test is superfluous (its negative aspects far outweigh the positive ones)
So that we don't get people like iMkNoWn who don't even read the fucking thread, hop to ask their noob questions, act like idiots when we point that out, and then proceed to flame me staff via PM.
roughly, there are 2 types of n00bs, the 'genuine' ones (due to their lack of experience/knowledge,...) and the 'intentional' ones (lack of respect, good manners, subversive goals, personality,...) - the former are a larger group which can be 'reduced'/influenced through education & time (not in terms of the group size in general, but regarding those users that are continuously participating in forum activities - through time they will become better users, but new ones will keep on arriving, so the process cannot be avoided, merely more or less successfully addressed, provided that the registration is open and that the forum conditions are suitable), the latter is mostly out of reach since such users have no intention of working with the forum, since their goals or 'ways' significantly deviate from what is expected or what could be tolerated
thus, the primary objective would logically be to address the former group, to focus on their education in order to speed-up/support the process of 'becoming' a better user - in this sense, the following are good measures:
You could just have a basic introductory post that includes the basics on how to cheat, and quiz people on that. It could have an index at the bottom to commonly asked questions.
basics of expected behavior (maybe with some practical examples, the 'dos and don'ts')
basics of forum goals (regarding its primary purpose and how this reflects on the users, how does it 'see'/view the role of a user)
basics of benefits for the user
basics of how to use the forum ('all settings explained'), basics of its features, sections, links to threads/posts that act as summaries/'maps'/'link-pools' covering a wider segment of the forum (including a brief description of their purpose)
basics of avoiding those activities that are already known as most problematic or commonly repeating problems (the 'search' problem, wrong section posting, spam posts, missing source quotes, the 'don'ts',...)
essentially, making it more user friendly, or in this particular case n00b friendly, ie. choosing a more positive/attractive approach (education, help, explanation,...), reducing the 'negative'/aversive elements (requirements, obstacles,...) to a bare necessary minimum
iq-test, irc-interview, qiuz and the like all assume that they are sufficiently able to filter-out unwanted users based on simple technical questions (which anyone with a sufficient determination can more or less easily overcome) - the key, however, is not in memorizing mere technical data or imposing additional requirements, but in understanding their meaning/purpose and in individual goals/interests/attitude/psyche - obviously, no test can even dream of being able to address such key elements, rendering it in effect quite pointless
fi. a good sb-i user doesn't need to know anything about cheating, a good private music/movies torrent site user doesn't need to know anything about encoding (not even about torrenting) - such a user may be a n00b regarding these technical aspects, but the knowledge regarding these aspects is certainly not relevant to assess whether he will be a good user or not (merely to assess his current state of technical knowledge), it has little to say on what kind of a person this user is or what his goals are
finally, its not about filtering-out n00bs, its about supporting/encouraging/keeping/'growing' good users, regardless of their current state of technical knowledge
I think we should have something atleast, we should have an IQ test but it should be little easy and hardly 3-4 questions should be asked to person registering I think!
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