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Hi,
I was just wondering which is good for games..
a pc or a xbox 360.
I would go for xbox as mostly all the games come for xbox.
There are many games which the developers do not make for pc console.
Both have advantages and disadvantages!
Some games better fit for PC and some for XBOX
Both have advantages and disadvantages!
Some games better fit for PC and some for XBOX
Its not like some games, almost games have an PC version of it. It depends if your looking for more Graphics, more fun, more features. Go for an X-BPx.
PS3 is also there, in-place on an X-BOx
Time ago, when only PS2 and XboX existed, the good games were on PC...
If you were going to use a PC 80% for games, then I would suggest you to buy a console.
silencer1980
07.12.10, 09:59
jailbroken PS3 is far better...
i have both XBOX and PS3
So here's the skinny...
On most PC games you can pirate to your hearts content. You can play most games, except some online ones--for nothing. When you actually do feel like paying something for games, you just wait for Steam to have a sale and get thirty games for a nickel. The downside is that you'd be part of a community that is in the minority these days. The PC scene is very far from dead, and some would even argue that it's making a comeback--the truth of which is yet to be seen. The big downside is that if you want to play with your friends, they have to have one too. And they ain't exactly cheap.
On console, it's somewhat the same regarding piracy. You can mod your console and (in most cases) will be unable to play online while you do so. If you do feel like buying games, console titles typically hold their value much longer than their PC counterparts, and it's not unusual to be paying full retail six months to a year after release. The solutions for this are typically rental programs that resemble Netflix which is another monetary consideration in addition to console peripherals and accessories which all seem to hold their value at the same level over the years. So all in all, I'd say consoles are a much more expensive venture if you plan to buy games legitimately. The largest advantage, in my opinion, is the ability to have multiple players all on one machine.
So there are a few things to mull over. Pick your poison. Each is rather distinctive in it's own right.
mostafaoraby
08.12.10, 17:36
if u want to play RTS games , consoles suck
other than that PC or xbox are both good
I'd go for a console. In your case an X360 will be a better choice, and its cheaper if you just wanna play games.
Regards.
Both are good, but i prefer PC
I like Xbox360 bcz we need to mess upl a lot while games in PC...
tokiodrift1
06.01.11, 01:04
A pc for ego-shooter/strategy and if you need to use it for productive-stuff.
For every other kind of Game the 360 should/could be preferred.
I think both of them very good for game. I like play FPS game in PC and Race game in console. :D
with fan-made mods, I feel PC is more preferable.
A modded Xbox 360 (with homebrew) is better.
Have both but PC is closer to my heart
Pc is way better than concoles.
There is only few games on console worth mentioning
GOW,Demon souls and dante's inferno
All other games are better on PC
Consoles are ruining gaming on PC
pc with an xbox controller - best of both worlds...
xDoomshade
29.03.11, 06:23
I say Xbox 360 because of Xbox Live, but if you have a nice enough PC then games will obviously look better on it.
XBOX mostly for all multi-platforms and most of games, but for games like, Total War, Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft - PC.
supermarrioh
29.03.11, 14:47
The capability of aiming close to fast and accurate with a controller is just not existent. Mouse/Keyboard are the superior choice for everything but sport games/racing games. The same for RPGs, you just got more buttons (skills) on the Keyboard you can access without cracking your fingers than on a controller.
The question is what are you want to play?
Not all games are on pc but every game are on console.
A pc for gaming cost minimal 800€ and a console 200-350€.
So look what you like to play and than buy.
Consoles are ruining gaming on PC
i read the same thing about 5 years ago.
and 10 years previous to that...
...and 10 years previous to that...
the slow, drawn out death of pc games being distributed on physical media is the only hump in the road. look at steam. blossoming. yeah, all steam games can be cracked and played online on official servers, but the ball ache involved if you can't be bothered to check daily for fresh cracks is a pain in the ass to a lot of people.
also, saying there is not many decent console games is absolute b.s.
people who spout that junk are not gamers. end of story. break out of your shell and PLAY some games.
i think the bad thing on PC games is the fact u have to buy new hardware if u wanna play the game at higher quality
and if you buy a console u can play any new game with the same quality instead of buy new hardware
i gave up play in PC because of the costs with new hardware
unfortunately i guess they make games for PC just to sell more graphic cards
but there are some still worth to play like MMORPG and some FPS
also if u wanna have fun with variety is better to buy a console since is much cheaper and don't end up loosing his quality on new games
the hardware argument with pc's is fading rapidly though - the times of needed to upgrade every 6 months are long gone, unless you're a complete graphics whore.
3 years ago, i built a pc - the gfx card cost me £60 (it's a 1gb 9600gt) and is easily the weakest part of the system, but i could run crysis from day one, and can still run any of the latest games - maybe i can't run everything with all settings on max, but stuff like starcraft 2 runs flawlessly on max settings...
I'd say the PC since it's a multifunctional device. As far as gaming specifically is concerned, I'd say it's still up to par with the latest consoles - there are some games that simply work best with a mouse in your hand and a keyboard at your disposal. My opinion is pretty biased though as I never really owned a console apart from the old PSX and a Gameboy Pocket ^.^
there are some games that simply work best with a mouse in your hand and a keyboard at your disposal
same gös for consoles and their devices
same goes for consoles and their devices
Sure, but you can't write a ten page essay with your console.
if you like Strategy games pc is good for you but you need good computer, if you like consoles with amazing graphic and you playing more 5 or 6 hours ps3 is good for you of course with jailbreak.
sorry i hate xbox 360.
of course PC is better nowadays
it has a lot of games
LuluShoutX
15.04.11, 13:38
If you like fightings, arcades, simulators, slashers - X-Box, no doubt. If shooters/RTS/TBS - PC. :)
If you like fightings, arcades, simulators, slashers - X-Box, no doubt.
by 'fightings', i guess you mean beat 'em ups, and if you're playing them on the xbox, you're playing them on the wrong platform (outside of the arcade).
anyone who's serious about beat 'em ups plays them on the ps3, tournaments are held on ps3 versions only, and the controllers, well, i just hope for your sake that you're playing on a fight stick if you own an x-box...
LuluShoutX
15.04.11, 20:49
by 'fightings', i guess you mean beat 'em ups, and if you're playing them on the xbox, you're playing them on the wrong platform (outside of the arcade).
anyone who's serious about beat 'em ups plays them on the ps3, tournaments are held on ps3 versions only, and the controllers, well, i just hope for your sake that you're playing on a fight stick if you own an x-box...
Fighting is 1v1 game: Fighting game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game)
I love them since sega mega drive :) It's ok to play fighting on PC too (I LOVE GGX!). The bad thing is developers who ignore PC. Why no Tekken on PC!?
xbox is more fun, when u have friends or ppl over (since you can play on ur tv) . PC , is fun too, just suck to play with a lot of ppl if u have a small screen.
LuluShoutX
16.04.11, 06:54
xbox is more fun, when u have friends or ppl over (since you can play on ur tv) . PC , is fun too, just suck to play with a lot of ppl if u have a small screen.
You can connect PC to TV. Almost all videocards have TV-Out.
supermarrioh
16.04.11, 19:20
i think he means splitscreen
xbox is no 1 for me no trojan virus good game
xbox very funny ,, the new add (kinect) is intelligent
GymTanAndLaundry
25.04.11, 06:16
My Xbox 360 does me good...... :D
on xbox360 many games appear which on pc is not.
nothingbutupload
09.05.11, 04:57
pc is the greatest gaming platform out there. It will always have the best graphics, and the newest games, because 1: games are made on the computer and 2: computers are updated as fast as technology is.
ofcourse Xbox 360 :) .....
pc is the greatest gaming platform out there. It will always have the best graphics, and the newest games, because 1: games are made on the computer and 2: computers are updated as fast as technology is.
the newest games..? eh?
pc is the greatest gaming platform out there. It will always have the best graphics, and the newest games, because 1: games are made on the computer and 2: computers are updated as fast as technology is.
while this used to be true, lately this is hardly so. most games are made for consoles and then ported to the pc.
also, while computer hardware is better, console games are written specifically for the console hardware, using it FAR more efficient thus resulting in good graphics as well. In other words, if the programmers are skilled enough to use a new console efficiently (which often is a problem with release games as they are still learning the new platform), the console would actually have better graphics!
On your second note, think about this: while there is often new hardware to buy for computers and not for consoles, do you *really* buy new hardware for you computer that often to claim it always has the latest of the latest? I think not... Games usually are made keeping in mind that people don't have unlimited wallets like that. No one would buy games if it required them to buy a new cpu and graphics card every month or two.
Lastly, probably due to piracy, more and more games are specific to one or more consoles and don't get ported to pc.
thanks sazzy, for writing the response that i didn't have time to because i was at work :D
one more point to add/expand on, alongside what you mentioned about pc games and hardware is that while it's possible to make things run at the highest res with high levels of anti aliasing and detail etc, it's really not in developer's interests to do that - the options are always there, but they wouldn't make any money at all, as the rich graphics whores who demand their games to run this way are not actually that common any more - despite what web forums would have you believe :D
(an example of this existing outside of the pc gaming world would be with gt5 on the ps3 - the 200 odd premium car models - the very highly details ones - were originally rendered at a much, much higher resolution than 1080p. this allows them to simply drop these 200 models into the next game on the next platform sony releases. they have the ability to create the models now, but they can't render them in game on the current tech. this will change with the next playstation. pc gamers potentially have the possibility of taking advantage of things such as this right here and now, but for a price, and the price is high.)
id rather have a pc anyday free games (singleplayer) without modifications just get a xbox controller :)
id rather have a pc anyday free games (singleplayer) without modifications just get a xbox controller :)
Free games are overrated. To be honest, when you play a game, now-a-days it's because you want to play co-op or online. Single player just doesn't cut it anymore (most of the time, unless you don't have friends and hate other people) and this becomes rather obvious as designers these days spend way more time on the multiplayer side of the game. The single player usually feels like a "just because".
That being said, most games can't be played online (decently) when pirated. I believe it's a nice strategy to see if you like a game or not, but if you really want to play it, you will have to buy it in the end, both on pc and xbox, rendering that argument kind of pointless...
No device on earth can give the XBOX360 sensation.
PC by far has a wider range of control, but some games are even better with a 360 controller. PC still owns on graphics though :tongue:!
We can be talking about hardware, diversity or tackle any other subject in the war against PC vs Consoles.
My best suggestion is: ask your friends! because like somebody already pointed out the social aspect of gaming is what really counts.
OR
if you like sitting in a dark room, and being left a alone go into a showroom and test the two ( maybe some other console too, like PS3 ) and than choose the one that feels better.
Go for xbox man, much more enjoyable when you play it tbh
PC by far has a wider range of control, but some games are even better with a 360 controller. PC still owns on graphics though :tongue:!
At least it used to be like that. Seeing as lately more and more PC games are an (often crappy) port of a console game, the graphics are on the same level as the console or lower :-( Only the pc-only games, like the witcher 2, have amazing graphics these days... And we all know pc-only games are rather scarse...
Go for xbox man, much more enjoyable when you play it tbh
Each to his own. Maybe he doesn't want to. Maybe he doesn't have an XBox and all he's got is his PC.
They are really different things... like comparing an apple to an orange. I'm all for PC.
Some games work better on PC than on consoles and vice-versa. Like rts is obviously better on the PC.
If you want a quick game with some friends, then xbox would be the choice
flowerorange
26.08.11, 15:23
How can I play Warcraft and starcraft on xbox :shockkk!:
a/w I love kinect on xbox:klatsch_3:
Ironholder
26.08.11, 23:55
IMHO consoles in general are more for the casual players... Playing Games with Friends on the couch. PC Gaming is more "hardcore" gaming. Also there are games that are terrible or even impossible on consoles, like shooters or RPG's.
So for playing alone or online games i'd say a pc is way better, but for casual gaming with friends a console is probably the better choice.
IMHO consoles in general are more for the casual players... Playing Games with Friends on the couch. PC Gaming is more "hardcore" gaming. Also there are games that are terrible or even impossible on consoles, like shooters or RPG's.
So for playing alone or online games i'd say a pc is way better, but for casual gaming with friends a console is probably the better choice.
Don't really agree there. All I do on the xbox is play online. Playing alone/offline is too boring, imho. RPG's are THE perfect games to play with a controller though, so not too sure what you are talking about there. I do admit that shooters are more difficult on a console though, but impossible? No. Ever played Halo, Gears of War, Ghost Recon, ... on a console? If you play long enough that you get used to the controller, these are just f*cking amazing. I tried halo on the pc, it sucked greatly in comparison
Shared opinions like always, but like +Sazzy tried to point out there are misconceptions that need to be dealt with when moving forward. Yes some shooters don't have the right feel on consoles but great titles like Modern Warfare play well on both platforms, and for example the Halo franchise is quite worse on the PC.
Most action/RPGs also work well on consoles as I've played a bunch, even with the Xbox360 controller on the computer and the experience is great. All in all the XBox online experience has taken over almost all aspects of the gaming world with great success, though there are a few game types that might not ever make it to the consoles in their current form. Here I mention clasic RPGs/MMORPGs that demand the need for 10 or more keys or quick access to spells or tricks and RTSs that demand the many quick shortcuts.
Again you must remember that even if the experience gets a slower pace due to the limited number of buttons on a controller ( no more quick keys in games) the online experience is against other people playing on the same console with the same controller.
Never will you see PC vs XBox tournaments for games designed for the PC in the first place, as the PC players will get ahead every time due to a better and wider range of control when it comes to those games.
Cheater Unknown
09.09.11, 16:26
This chart is for you buddy..
http://i.imgur.com/2UqiL.jpg
This chart is for you buddy..
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very coherent, nice one
This chart is for you buddy..
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:klatsch_3: nice guide
what u want to play?
adventure games? xbox!
shooter? pc, no doubt
dont forget that u can use the xbox controller in pc and i see some news that kinect ll be release for pc too
nice one Cheater Unknown lol but i prefer a pc
I prefer a PC, because I like to use the mouse to point and shoot instead of a gamepad.
I prefer PS3 and I play with friends and friends :memehappy:
I prefer PS3 because my pc is not performant
I prefer PC + xbox controller and PS3
DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
27.04.12, 16:03
i prefer pc + Xbox + PS3 ..if i can :D
playing NBA on a flat big tv is a wet dream
PC ftw.pc is and will be best gaming platform!
Again after some time, my suggestion is the same choose depending on your friends. It's not about pack mentality, but lately games have more immersible multiplayer gameplay than singleplayer and it would be a shame to miss all the action.
As for me, i haven't been playing newer games for quite some time. I'm just spending my evenings on my four-year laptop, conected to a hd monitor, playing some moba games with friends( better yet a moba game - no diversity)
PC for FPS and RPG,
Xbox for NHL/FIFA and racing games.
This chart is for you buddy..
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Haha, very funny
i like ps3 not only for gaming but streaming videos from my pc.i cant wait until the ps4 comes out
smartphone... (android)... :P
I dont know about you guys, but I certainly CANNOT play any FPS game with xbox controller (or dualshock) (autoaim anyone?). Keyboard + mouse are so strong.
Lets forget anyway about FPS and controller stuff, what about AA, AF, HD Textures, 1920x1080 resolution, dedicated servers vs player as hosts, 60 fps vs 30 fps (console) ...
I tell you, if you play BF3 or Skyrim, amongst many others, on console you gonna miss-a-lot.
I dont know about you guys, but I certainly CANNOT play any FPS game with xbox controller (or dualshock) (autoaim anyone?). Keyboard + mouse are so strong.
Lets forget anyway about FPS and controller stuff, what about AA, AF, HD Textures, 1920x1080 resolution, dedicated servers vs player as hosts, 60 fps vs 30 fps (console) ...
I tell you, if you play BF3 or Skyrim, amongst many others, on console you gonna miss-a-lot.
90% of games these days are made for consoles and ported to PC. There are few games that actually do a lot better on pc, and at least half of those I don't even like.
That being said, new consoles will probably arrive next year and will easily do everything you want and more. Hell, xbox and ps3 already do that.
Also not sure why you'd want dedicated servers. The current system works and it works well.
Finally, while keyboard and mouse obv allow you to react faster, when playing on a console, everyone is playing with the controller thus has the same disadvantage. It balances out and while at first I hated FPS on a console, I've come to play more FPS' on my xbox than on my PC.
90% of games these days are made for consoles and ported to PC. There are few games that actually do a lot better on pc, and at least half of those I don't even like.
Everything will do better at 1080 with AA and AF, only really bad ports dont improve on PC imo. Even Dark Souls is better due to scene or fan works.
That being said, new consoles will probably arrive next year and will easily do everything you want and more. Hell, xbox and ps3 already do that.
New consoles wont do "everything you want", I'm pretty sure you will be able to build a fair better PC at the very release date of those, and if you wait a couple of months probably something even better. And I'm not gonna talk about the possibility of upgrades and improvements that PC gives you compared to consoles.
Also not sure why you'd want dedicated servers. The current system works and it works well.
Ever exprimented a "migration host"? Lag? Host player slaughtering the shit outta you?
Finally, while keyboard and mouse obv allow you to react faster, when playing on a console, everyone is playing with the controller thus has the same disadvantage.
I dont think thats a really good thing. What I meant anyway is that I'm totally useless with a xbox controller, I know some ppl are really good with it, just not my thing.
Greetings
Everything will do better at 1080 with AA and AF, only really bad ports dont improve on PC imo. Even Dark Souls is better due to scene or fan works.
Yeah, but as far as I know, consoles can do that as well.
And do scene/fan works even count? I mean... That's nowhere near official. If the game devs deliver a really crappy game, it's in its original state a crappy game on both platforms. Also, in my experience, most ports are bad ports :( ...
New consoles wont do "everything you want", I'm pretty sure you will be able to build a fair better PC at the very release date of those, and if you wait a couple of months probably something even better. And I'm not gonna talk about the possibility of upgrades and improvements that PC gives you compared to consoles.
Of course, but that pc will cost 3-4 times as much as the console. Plus consoles have the advantage that the games written are specifically for that hardware, so they can use it so much better than a game on the pc. The result is that you can get the same results with far worse hardware. Still, I must admit that games written specifically for the pc look 10 times better than the consoles versions. (e.g. The Witcher) but these are really scarse. Sadly enough :(
Ever exprimented a "migration host"? Lag? Host player slaughtering the shit outta you?
Yes, but luckily not often enough to actually annoy me. Lag? Never so far. Host player goes for pc as well! :)
I dont think thats a really good thing. What I meant anyway is that I'm totally useless with a xbox controller, I know some ppl are really good with it, just not my thing.
Simple explanation: I sucked too. Only after playing a lot with the controller, I got better with it. At this point, I score a lot better on a console FPS than a PC FPS too. But yeah, it seriously takes some time to get used to.
Anyway, it's all up to personal preference and I personally like an FPS better on the PC as well. It's just that there's a clear shift in the game world (one of the reasons is piracy) towards the consoles, and sadly that's very noticeable for the pc games. :( As for FPS' on the pc, I always play single player on max settings and multiplayer on lowest settings, just to get the max out of my framerate. So in my case, the graphical wonders don't even matter all that much :)
but I certainly CANNOT play any FPS game with xbox controller
and i will not :biggrin:
keyboard+mouse is a superior solution for the majority of pc games (except fi. platform games, fighting games, racing,...)
pc should be the proper platform for (more 'serious', more adult oriented) gaming, but when left to marketing/economy experts (pushing it excessively) & 'irresponsible' users/customers (supporting it excessively) we get the current distorted situation favoring consoles, porting problems, etc.
That being said, new consoles will probably arrive next year
did i mention consumerism yet? ;P
everyone is playing with the controller thus has the same disadvantage.
c'mon you can't be serious about this last part somehow making the users more equal
pc should be the proper platform for (more 'serious', more adult oriented) gaming, but when left to marketing/economy experts (pushing it excessively) & 'irresponsible' users/customers (supporting it excessively) we get the current distorted situation favoring consoles, porting problems, etc.
Is that really so weird? It's really easy to torrent any game on the pc. It's a lot harder if you don't know what you're doing to do the same on the console. Most users won't be able to mod their console, while most can torrent a game. It doesn't surprise me at all that they're favoring consoles. Let's also not forget that most players are in fact casual players. Most casual players do prefer a console... PC games are currently more reserved for the die hard gamers, which most people just aren't. Most people I know just want to sit in the sofa for an hour and quickly play a game, then get on with their lives ^^
did i mention consumerism yet? ;P
I was going to agree, but then I remembered I bought more pc's than consoles over the years. They've also been a lot more expensive ;-). But seriously, the current xbox came out in 2005. That's 7 years. In that time, I bought a new pc, a new laptop, I also received a way too expensive laptop from work, and am currently thinking about a tablet which I will probably have before getting a new xbox. During that time, I've also gotten a new graphics card for my pc since the one I got with it originally wasn't keeping up with my work requirements.
So if we really want to talk consumerism, I think the console is the better and way cheaper way to go.
c'mon you can't be serious about this last part somehow making the users more equal
I'm not only being serious, it's a fact! Everyone has the same controller. On pc's, people are playing with mouses that cost 10 euro and mouses that costs 100+ euro. Needless to say, you really do notice a difference. This is something you don't have with consoles, thus making everyone more equal. It's not bullshit. The only way to have an advantage is to mod your controller, but imho that's the same as cheating.
@Sazzy:
Let's also not forget that most players are in fact casual players. Most casual players do prefer a console...PC games are currently more reserved for the die hard gamers, which most people just aren't.
pc can provide for both kinds of players and has done so successfully for a long time before the consoles arrived, whats more their arrival hasn't changed that either, especially not due to some console advantage (as already mentioned above)
So if we really want to talk consumerism, I think the console is the better and way cheaper way to go.
yes, if one wants to continue their consumerist habits (though spending less than before and getting less as well)
no, since consoles cannot offer the same as a pc can, not even in terms of their primary purpose (gaming)
I'm not only being serious, it's a fact! Everyone has the same controller. On pc's, people are playing with mouses that cost 10 euro and mouses that costs 100+ euro. Needless to say, you really do notice a difference. This is something you don't have with consoles, thus making everyone more equal.
think about it, even if a 100 people had exactly the same console (and everything else hardware/network/software/... related too) there would still be enormous differences between them and their playing abilities/results, which means they would still be very unequal in the end, thus no attempt at equalizing like the above mentioned one can change this natural occurrence
I just want to point out that this "pc are way more expensive than conoles" it's not so simple. Most people already got a PC in their home to surf the net, watch some movies probably and ofc office, etc. If you wanna build a gamer PC from nothing (and here you can go low, mid or high range) sure it will cost you a lot. If you already got a decent monitor, a decent case and a decent PSU the PC wont cost that much. Even if you got nothing, or nothing decent, once you invest in it the first time you will probably be upgrading each 3-4 years your rig and only the GPU, or if the difference is REALLY noticeable CPU+MOBO+MEM, but mostly GPU really.
So, if you already got a half decent PC just buy a new GPU and forgot about PS4 or xbox720.
pc can provide for both kinds of players and has done so successfully for a long time before the consoles arrived, whats more their arrival hasn't changed that either, especially not due to some console advantage (as already mentioned above)
yes, if one wants to continue their consumerist habits (though spending less than before and getting less as well)
no, since consoles cannot offer the same as a pc can, not even in terms of their primary purpose (gaming)
think about it, even if a 100 people had exactly the same console (and everything else hardware/network/software/... related too) there would still be enormous differences between them and their playing abilities/results, which means they would still be very unequal in the end, thus no attempt at equalizing like the above mentioned one can change this natural occurrence
No offense, but that's bullshit and you know it :P . Not only do some of your arguments contradict, a lot of them aren't based on facts at all or even relevant to the current discussion.
I just want to point out that this "pc are way more expensive than conoles" it's not so simple. Most people already got a PC in their home to surf the net, watch some movies probably and ofc office, etc. If you wanna build a gamer PC from nothing (and here you can go low, mid or high range) sure it will cost you a lot. If you already got a decent monitor, a decent case and a decent PSU the PC wont cost that much. Even if you got nothing, or nothing decent, once you invest in it the first time you will probably be upgrading each 3-4 years your rig and only the GPU, or if the difference is REALLY noticeable CPU+MOBO+MEM, but mostly GPU really.
So, if you already got a half decent PC just buy a new GPU and forgot about PS4 or xbox720.
But, it is that simple. CPU+MOBO+MEM+GPU is 95% of the pc. A pc just to surf the net will be nowhere near close the performance you were describing in your earlier posts. If you want BF3 on that level of performance, you will have to get at least a high end graphics card. One of those costs as much as a console does. Consoles also don't have to be upgraded 3-4 years. Current consoles are 7+ years old and not being replaced yet. PS4 for a couple of years at least, xbox maybe next year but that isn't all that clear either. They will be easily 8 years before "needing" replacement. And even then, look at the ps2. It had tons of (new) games even months after the release.
All in all, that's not really a fair comparison though. Even if you already had the pc, you still had to have bought it at some point. Next gen consoles will apparently also have browsers etc in them, so the simple surf pc's can be replaced by them as well. (With some luck, they even cost the same).
@Sazzy:
No offense, but that's bullshit and you know it
none taken, however what can be concluded from such a response is that you simply ran out of usable/relevant counterarguments :biggrin:
Even if you already had the pc, you still had to have bought it at some point.
the purchase/usage of a pc in a household can be pretty much taken for granted (an average computer-literate family will most likely consider it a priority) - on the other hand, a console is certainly not its replacement, the console is an extra, an additional 'toy' used for gaming-only - with this in mind, the costs that are relevant for the comparison should only be related to the gaming aspect - for the console it is the full cost, for the pc it is that which has been purchased specifically to meet requirements for gaming (minus the cost of what would have been a non-gaming pc)
even regardless of this observation, check out these calculations/conclusions that take some other aspects into consideration:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/12/13/is-pc-gaming-really-more-expensive-than-consoles?page=2
Next gen consoles will apparently also have browsers etc in them
...and the users will have the same disadvantage while surfing the net with console controllers ;P (couldn't resist the pun)
there's no gaming console that can come near a high end pc gaming rig..
what console has..
sli graphics (multi graphics cards) example gtx690 sli card x2 or x3 or x4 ,
solid state hard drives ,
multi core processors (2 , 4, ,8 , 12) cores ,
blazing fast ram memory as much as your motherboard can handle
there's no gaming console that can come near a high end pc gaming rig..
what console has..
sli graphics (multi graphics cards) example gtx690 sli card x2 or x3 or x4 ,
solid state hard drives ,
multi core processors (2 , 4, ,8 , 12) cores ,
blazing fast ram memory as much as your motherboard can handle
Yeah, pointless to argue with that.
The point is if a PC, or just an upgrade, at the same cost of a console can perform and look better. I think it does. And of course you get also all the extra functions the PC provides. That link above looks about right, and a £1200 rig is a goddamn good PC.
But, it is that simple. CPU+MOBO+MEM+GPU is 95% of the pc. A pc just to surf the net will be nowhere near close the performance you were describing in your earlier posts.
My point was that if you got an almost decent PC, you dont need to buy a new monitor, peripherals or PSU and case, so CPU+MOBO+MEM+GPU isnt THAT MUCH. As I said earlier, you can build a low gaming PC (that will still outperform a console in every way imo) mid or high.
Also, you dont need to upgrade every 3-4 years, obviously in that time hardware will advance a lot. I dont really think is a good thing that consoles keep going with obsolete hardware for so long. Cripples the development, because as you said, industry is all about console nowadays. If a console doesnt need upgrades in 7 years I dont see why would a PC need it, specially if the PC is already better than every console out there. I guess I was talking more about my self there, I usually upgrade every 4 years :D. Things look better but isnt really a essential.
About new gen having browsers etc... they should really give up and go back to PC then ;D. Consoles feel like cut down version of the old good PCs.
svartevarg
14.09.12, 14:50
there's no gaming console that can come near a high end pc gaming rig..
what console has..
sli graphics (multi graphics cards) example gtx690 sli card x2 or x3 or x4 ,
solid state hard drives ,
multi core processors (2 , 4, ,8 , 12) cores ,
blazing fast ram memory as much as your motherboard can handle
Cannot wait for 12 cores and x4 sli ,,,,of course it will need lots of power....
Cannot wait for 12 cores and x4 sli ,,,,of course it will need lots of power....
12 cores for gaming is a total waste...
x4 sli if you dont play at serious huge resolutions too.
games are released for both PC and consoles then enjoy.
Graphics wise PC games rocks,but are buggy.
Xbox games have some exclusive series,console is made for gaming and we can enjoy the exclusive series.
Ya, some are buggy and then you patch'em. Xbox got some exclusives, right, pc does too, and so does ps3. Consoles are made for gaming? No, sir. Consoles are made for selling.
Greetings.
There are a few console exclusive games. But PC games are cheaper, look better, can be played better (with mouse and tastature) and whole genres of games e.g. RTS are PC exclusive.
Like most who are successful in xbox come out for PC prefer the PC.
csverona05
06.06.13, 15:04
I play games rarely ,but sure i prefer PC
I love both pc and xbox. i play strategy games like settler series on pc and play adventure games like prince of percia on xbox but there are alot of other title too which really deserve to play on the console like xbox
In my view,PCs are alot more better than xbox
Today most of the games are avaliable for both consoles,also the configuration that you can get in pc is not even comparable to xbox.You can get a PC with a better configuration than Xbox at the same price.Also a PC can perform many more functions than a Xbox(Overclocking,Running Programs,Photoshop,Downloading,Reading,Encoding... the list goes on).A site called reddit has dedicated awhole part of its to this particular topic(reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace)
jailbroken PS3 is far better than pc and xbox
PC all the way.
Best graphics though that depends on your pc. :)
PC all the way.
Best graphics though that depends on your pc. :)
And then you realize most of the good games don't get released on pc. And when they do, they're dead in a month because they're empty as everyone is playing the console versions..
it's sad but true.
jailbroken PS3 is far better than pc and xbox
Should that be interpreted in a way that the ps3 is only better if jailbroken?
And then you realize most of the good games don't get released on pc. And when they do, they're dead in a month because they're empty as everyone is playing the console versions..
it's sad but true.
Should that be interpreted in a way that the ps3 is only better if jailbroken?
PS3 is better if jailbroken but PC is the best because you can regularly upgrade your graphics concerning newer games but PS3 wont run PS4 or other games so it becomes obsolete no such issues with PC.
consoles don't become obsolete until more than a year after a new version is released, though. If anything, that's an argument to go for a console. It will be cheaper in the long run.
while the whole console becomes obsolete, pc's become obsolete as well, and much faster. Plus, a high end graphics card costs as much as an entire console.
ps4 has been out for ages and ps3 isn't obsolete at all. On top of that, it was released in 2006. Try running a game released today on an 8 year old graphics card in your pc :)
it's the same thing if a new directx or something is released that your graphics card doesn't support.
Fair enough but my argument was directed more at people who want to play the latest high end games and dont have jailbroken consoles and have to buy the games.
Most people prefer PC cause they are habituated with PC have easy access to latest game torrents and can upgrade relatively easily that being said you argument about console being cheaper in the long run does make sense:top:
At the end of the day each to his own cheers.
You'll get most AAA games with PC.
As for console specific games, you'll still have to choose from XBox, PS4 or Wii U and their respective exclusives.
The other argument for PC: Keyboard and mouse > controller.
I feel like all AAA titles this year have been cheap and buggy console ports.
The other argument for PC: Keyboard and mouse > controller.
IMO that's only valid when you talk about first person shooters, some third person shooters and real time strategy games. For fighting games a joystick/controller is a must.
for me xbox will win, because just only one thing .. the kinect, very fun to play with your family or your friends the emotion games is a plus reason to chose xbox.
PC really got better and better nowadays. The console era is definitely not as before when we have this huge advancement in graphic processors.
mammamia11
26.07.16, 11:51
for me i cant play action games or strategy on console, so PC is and will allways be my choice because of mouse controll
PC can be more powerful than any console, and can have games that normally will be released to specific consoles.
PC can be more powerful than any console, and can have games that normally will be released to specific consoles.
but these days a lot of pc games are console ports, and crappy ports at that :(
DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
20.12.16, 22:00
PC unless u wanna play EA Sports Games -then u start to swear u haven't bought an xbox or a ps4 or something to play on the 50 inch plasma tv and get rid of back pain and shoulder pain
i know PC has gamepads options nowadays but i'm felling like i have plugged in a keyboard to xbox to use a gamepad on pc in front with the keyboard
so the correct answer i think wil be PC + XBOX + PS4 + at least a 65 inch 4k tv smart ...ohhh :(
PC unless you have so much money that you can afford buying latest AAA games at the time of release.
PCMasterRace squad where you at?
DashingDave
16.10.18, 07:51
PC has it's own joy and so does the XBox.
I would prefer X-box for an amazing gaming experience.
RapNatioNs
18.10.18, 17:21
Uumm, I'm really confused to choose, lol
Have played a lot of the games on my PC for ages. Have XBOX too.
I think i should say XBOX is more amazing.
PS4 (2018 comment :wwhistle:).
Honestly, high-end PC is just overpriced nowadays and we don't know how far all these game requirements will go, sticking to consoles would be a MUCH cheaper choice (considering that you buy PS Plus, so u get 3 games a month for free).
But for some reason I fell in love with gamepads. I know they are absolutely garbage for shooters and action games in average, but once I got used to 'em, I bought myself a controller to play games on PC, and I unironically enjoy it.
I can't play shooters with gamepad on pc. no way. On Ps4, sure, but not on pc :D
Aiming with a gamepad sucks, I don't even know how I finished Quake 2 on the PlayStation :wermm:
Yeah, aiming on gamepad is very slow, which makes online competitive sessions very hard. Some shooters have axis speed modifiers but those are also very difficult to get used too.
IMO gamepads are best fighting, racing, platforms and 3rd person games. Strategy and FPS you are best using keyboard and mouse.
I'm currently playing Uncharted 2 on my PS4, and aiming with guns is so annoying. I use full magazine just to kill one dude because I can't get crosshair on target :icon_angry[1]:
Yeah, this is pain in the :icon_angry[1]: at first, but then I got used to controller "quickly" (after spending hours playing CoD:MW2 multiplayer on xbox 360 tho :biggrin:) and don't feel any discomfort in First Person Shooters, althought I know about gamepad's disadvantage comparing to keyboard/mouse. Guess that's just a matter of taste :idunno:
I have a PS5 and an XBOX but I mostly play on PC. lol. I like the flexibility of PCs and I completely understand the plug and play appeal of a console.
I'm PC guy from 1998`s, my last "new build" is from 2018 (ryzen 2600 + 1080TI), recently I bought Xbox Series X for 240 Euros (used - without pads, cables, box, some guy sell it as damaged, but warranty seals was in place so I send it to MS Germany and got new one that works fine), for that price I can't even bought decent GPU for PC, so I play old games on PC, and new ones on XSX, and it will stay that's way till GPU prices won't go back to normal :)
I'm PC guy from 1998`s, my last "new build" is from 2018 (ryzen 2600 + 1080TI), recently I bought Xbox Series X for 240 Euros (used - without pads, cables, box, some guy sell it as damaged, but warranty seals was in place so I send it to MS Germany and got new one that works fine), for that price I can't even bought decent GPU for PC, so I play old games on PC, and new ones on XSX, and it will stay that's way till GPU prices won't go back to normal :)
How did they accept this? Do you not need original receipt?
How did they accept this? Do you not need original receipt?
Nope, only thing you need is serial number added to your microsoft account, not expired warranty, also not damaged warranty seals on your device(if you live in europe). Then you create ticket, send them console on their cost by UPS, and after 7-10days you get working refub console that looks like new one(only device without accesories)
Right now I think a console is the best way to go. Although hard to get a new one from this new generation, getting to build a new PC with a decent GPU is even harder and more expensive. In this new generation of consoles (Xbox Series and Playstation 5) you can now easily plug in a mouse and keyboard to play shooter games, most new games have support for them natively. Another advantage on using consoles for competitive games is the low to none number of cheaters. Cheating on console is much harder since their platform is closed and when a cheater is caught the whole console is banned from going online. In contrast, Call of Duty Warzone, one of the most played games nowadays, is heavily plagued with cheaters on PC. And since the game is free, when they are banned they simply create another account.
PC, because I prefer games that can only be played properly with a mouse
I vote for pc. cuz i like to play using keyboard and mouse.
i don't know why it seems difficult to play with console.
It all depends on what you want to play, but my experience is that shooters and strategy are two genres where using a gamepad is almost painful. PC gamers have to deal with mouse acceleration, but there are fixes for that.
Yes, and fighting games, top down shooters and maybe some side scrollers are best in a joystick. Another game that plays som much better in PS2 joystick is MGS2 and 3.
fighting games... Another game that plays som much better in PS2 joystick is MGS2 and 3.
After playing Tekken 2 and Metal Gear Solid on emulators, I concur :smilie4: Back in the day I had this bad boy, but it didn't work with Connectix VGS for some reason...
http://www.sb-innovation.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=21552
I think PC is fantastic but it does depend what it is you want to play. These days Steam has a massive library of computer games.
These days Steam has a massive library of computer games.
It took Valve two years or so to add their first third-party game, but boy, was the experiment successful.
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