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coolio256
23.07.10, 14:26
Hey I want to open a thread about torrentech & how to cheat there...

I donīt have experiences with cheating there.

PS: I donīt find a thread like this:biggrin:

Vaffa
23.07.10, 16:55
yep it's trange that noone has already started this topic. (few EDM lovers?)
You know I used to cheat a bit but I don't remember how.
I'm sure that free leech torrents are the best to cheat on. They just ask us to cheat :)
I'll add new info to this post of mine when I try some tricks
btw don't get there a tracker problem - blue sign in vuze and red in utorrent ? maybe we can take advantage of that

anon
23.07.10, 17:59
btw don't get there a tracker problem - blue sign in vuze and red in utorrent ? maybe we can take advantage of that

Tracker errors are never good... what's the status message?

Donatas
23.07.10, 19:45
I'm not sure they have any anticheat scripts to be honest... I've been ghost leeching for months now and I've never been banned. Never tried faking upload, but you shouldn't have any issues as long as you don't overdo it.

Vaffa
23.07.10, 21:36
anon,
utorrent says "tracker provided incorrect data" (I translated it from russian)
in Vuze I dunno where exactly to see what the problem is. When I bring closer my mouse cursor to that blue sign it says smth like in English would be: "When seeding it means that there are no connections with any leecher. When downloading it means that there are connections with peers but tracker doesn't work "

The problem is in all my torrentech torrents. And the same was 2 months ago..nothin' changed. You guys, do you have the same odd thing?
And Donatas reminded me of what I used to do on this tracker. Yes, I also used to delete/modify tracker URL while downloading torrents. But thought it was risky :)

Ah and I'm using VEM now but only succeeded in uploading 16,2 Mb in 5 hours using "speed mode++" hmmmm...

anon
23.07.10, 22:04
anon,
utorrent says "tracker provided incorrect data" (I translated it from russian)
in Vuze I dunno where exactly to see what the problem is.

In Vuze, you can double-click the torrent to open its details sheet, tracker status included. :smile:

Can you download and seed despite that error message?


And Donatas reminded me of what I used to do on this tracker. Yes, I also used to delete/modify tracker URL while downloading torrents. But thought it was risky :)

In theory, it is risky, but very few trackers can detect it. Go here and read the threads below "ghost leeching/seeding" if you want to know more:
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=18705

Donatas
23.07.10, 22:20
anon,
Yes, I also used to delete/modify tracker URL while downloading torrents. But thought it was risky :)
As anon said, I really, really doubt they can detect it. Hell, even on what.cd they haven't banned me when I used it.

Blocker
24.07.10, 00:22
VEM works fine

Just use fake upload speed++

I cheat with a speed between 100kbps -200kbps

But It's up to you! ,I do not think this tracker will be so hard!

Vaffa
24.07.10, 00:26
In theory, it is risky, but very few trackers can detect it. Go here and read the threads below "ghost leeching/seeding" if you want to know more:


yes anon I've already looked through that nice tutorial..the point is that I'm too lazy to change my IP ...
It even worked on waffes.. but now I try to avoid ghosting on trackers with good scripts.



Can you download and seed despite that error message?

Yes I do!! Without DHT, with tracker problems everything works OK, there 13 seeders and speed is decent. Moreover, statistics works there fine too. (I mean the amount of my download and upload is counted right by tracker)

And now a little suprise. VEM declares that it has faked 377 mb.. but my ratio is the same!!!! (it was a freeleech torrent) I've looked the peerlist and I see that I've upped "3.31MB" WTF???
At the same time I also have faked >300 Mb on BitHQ with no problems at all.
As I said speed mode++ 15-200 kbps seems like only real upload reported o.O



In Vuze, you can double-click the torrent to open its details sheet, tracker status included. :smile:

I need to clarify that. :rolleyes: I click the torrent name in the left window and see different tabs at the right. I choose "information" tab and in the right-low corner I see the tracker statas. Yes? That's what you mean?
Tracker says "Connection error (No data received from tracker)"

anon
24.07.10, 00:30
yes anon I've already looked through that nice tutorial..the point is that I'm too lazy to change my IP ...

Changing your IP is not a requirement, although yes a good idea.


It even worked on waffes..

I wouldn't recommend it on Waffles, the site having a full permanent snatchlist and all.


And now a little suprise. VEM declares that it has faked 377 mb.. but my ratio is the same!!!! (it was a freeleech torrent) I've looked the peerlist and I see that I've upped "3.31MB" WTF???

The tracker's a bit shaky, I guess. I mean, they're already saying there's an error when it's actually working. However, care to provide an screenshot of your Extreme Mod settings?


I choose "information" tab and in the right-low corner I see the tracker statas. Yes? That's what you mean?
Tracker says "Connection error (No data received from tracker)"

Yes, that's the one. :smile:

Vaffa
24.07.10, 00:50
anon thx for the extra-immediate answer!
I've tried ghosting on waffles only a couple of times and now I'm out of that :smile:

Of course .. but my settings are extremely simple - I just set speed of faking and that's all...


http://lookpic.com/d2/i2/626/rXWszjJb.jpeg

anon
24.07.10, 00:52
There's no need to tick "start fake upload when..." if it's set to 0% :smile:

You see the "stop increasing the fake upload when..." values at the top? Set them to 0, leave the torrent running and faking, and see if stats get updated. :wink:

You may want to read this, specially the part that describes what those options do, as well as FAQ portion where I mention column setup:
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=13781

Großmutter
24.07.10, 00:57
The Wafflesmethode works great on TT!
I use RM with ĩtorrent emu and 500kb/s up!

Vaffa
24.07.10, 01:09
There's no need to tick "start fake upload when..." if it's set to 0% :smile:

You see the "stop increasing the fake upload when..." values at the top? Set them to 0, leave the torrent running and faking, and see if stats get updated. :wink:



Yep I understand that "start fake upload when 0 % is reached" is nonsense :biggrin: but without that tick it would be extremely booooring screeshot ;)
So I set "stop increasing the fake upload when you are connected to less than 0 peers (0-250) OR having a peer/seed ratio lower than 0% " yep?

It looks like others' VEM works fine... Let's see what happens n3xt to my vuze and acc :rolling_eyes: :tongue:

anon
24.07.10, 01:12
Yep I understand that "start fake upload when 0 % is reached" is nonsense :biggrin: but without that tick it would be extremely booooring screeshot ;)

Oh, so it's just for looks :biggrin:


So I set "stop increasing the fake upload when you are connected to less than 0 peers (0-250) OR having a peer/seed ratio lower than 0% " yep?

Right. This way the mod will always fake upload, even if it isn't connected to leechers or directly there aren't any. Risky, but if you're there to control things, I think it's the best.

Blocker
24.07.10, 01:18
So I set "stop increasing the fake upload when you are connected to less than 0 peers (0-250) OR having a peer/seed ratio lower than 0% " yep?

Yeap it's the new way I cheat with VEM since months and nothing happen until now :top:

Instab
24.07.10, 05:00
The Wafflesmethode works great on TT!

TT is trancetraffic :P

anyway just by looking at the kind of the site i'd be surprised if they'd have any scripts at all. gonna do some tests in the near future :D

anon
24.07.10, 17:41
TT is trancetraffic :P

And TorrenTech's acronym was tT or Tt, it's easy to mix them up.

Vaffa
24.07.10, 17:46
So today I continued my VEM + torrentech research. I've been cheating on 2 FL torrents without stopping of increasing fake upload with speeds 100- 300. Total amount of fake upload of these 2 torrents is 2.61 + 3.9 = 6.5 Gb.

tracker claims I've uploaded only 1.5 Gb!!
Guys something somewhere is pretty fucked up :biggrin:
:freesty:

All I can say that VEM works. For me not fine, but works :sm61:

P.S. I guess in this topic we can call the tracker TT =TorrenTech

Blocker
24.07.10, 17:49
All I can say that VEM works. For me not fine, but works :sm61:

Why it didn't work fine for you? Please explain us

anon
24.07.10, 17:53
Why it didn't work fine for you?

Because as he mentioned above the part you quoted, the tracker isn't crediting the amount of upload he faked with the mod. However, it's hard to know who's at fault, the program or the tracker, and I think it's probably the latter.

Donatas
24.07.10, 19:55
Honestly, just look at the design of the site. A forum for a torrents site? really? :P Wouldn't surprise me at all if their tracker was buggy or if they had no scripts at all.

Instab
24.07.10, 20:27
Honestly, just look at the design of the site. A forum for a torrents site? really? :P Wouldn't surprise me at all if their tracker was buggy or if they had no scripts at all.

pretty much matches my post #17 :D

Donatas
25.07.10, 01:44
pretty much matches my post #17 :D
Haha I'm sorry! I overlooked your post.

pyc
27.08.10, 09:11
And what about that one "sharing is caring"? ... you immoral bunch of cheaters...... you just don't get the point ;)

freak_from_tT
27.08.10, 12:16
:D

well... to clarify this a bit up: we do have a cheater detection (i wont say which one for obvios reasons) we are just too lazy to hunt cheaters, its not worth the effort we have better things to do, like trying to improve the site and build a nice community. ofc i'm just speaking for me and pyc, but we also have a lot of mods and not all of them are cool with cheaters so it MIGHT be a bit risky. to not piss our mods off we ban then cheaters they report to pyc or me, look up their email address and sign them in to various gay porn sites and spamlists.

regarding the tracker - thats an interesting info. maybe its a side-effect of the freeleech modification we implemented recently, which is basicly a multiplier. but maybe we created by accident some kind of AI and the tracker just cheats back. anyway - we are not reallly unhappy with this and since it works good - for whatever reason - there is no need to change something. :p

good day sirs and upload at least something if you have to fake your ratio. or make a few funny posts in our offtopic forum. or not. whatever makes you happy.

cheatuga
27.08.10, 14:07
Because of the huge swarms of Torrentleech i would say something like High download speed 4MB and slow upload speed on popular released something like 100-200 during the download time, after raise to 400kB and keep it for how long number of leechers is decent.

You can't check the tracker swarm if you aren't Uploader or Higher so you got that disadvantage, anyway they aren't that bad guys for cheaters, i find hard to believe you can get caught there without being really stupid.

I Suggest Mratio to cheat there if you haven't a real high download speed for faster cheating (or if you don't want to download anything anyway).

anon
27.08.10, 14:45
And what about that one "sharing is caring"? ... you immoral bunch of cheaters...... you just don't get the point ;)

Oh, so I'm going to hell for cheating a music piracy site? :wtf:


to not piss our mods off we ban then cheaters they report to pyc or me, look up their email address and sign them in to various gay porn sites and spamlists.

Can't you just ban them and get over it? It's not really mature to abuse their information like that. Not even What.cd does it. :gsmile:

By the way, I take it you (obviously) are staff on tT, and so is pyc? We can give you both the "tracker rep" title if you desire. PM me if interested.


Because of the huge swarms of Torrentleech

This thread is about TorrentTech, not TL. :happy:

Gapo
27.08.10, 15:15
Abusing such privileged information is pure unethical and immature. You'd expect better. Anyway, don't be afraid to cheat on this tracker. It's a classic way to fear cheaters.

freak_from_tT
27.08.10, 16:11
Can't you just ban them and get over it? It's not really mature to abuse their information like that. Not even What.cd does it.

Abusing such privileged information is pure unethical and immature. You'd expect better.
lol actually it was a joke. ofc we dont do that. didnt thought someone could take this serious. :D


Anyway, don't be afraid to cheat on this tracker. It's a classic way to fear cheaters.
as i said - we dont care much of cheaters and we also dont try to scare them. who think he has to cheat should go on, but we cant avoid the one or another gets caught and then we have to ban / block him. its the standard procedure.


By the way, I take it you (obviously) are staff on tT, and so is pyc?
right, we are the evil admins.


We can give you both the "tracker rep" title if you desire. PM me if interested.
thanks for the offer. you guys are welcome to join our community if you promise not to cheat. :D
no honestly - if someone need an invite PM me, but i keep an eye on your ratio. :p

Gapo
27.08.10, 16:17
Good. We sometimes get too serious :gwink:

system28
27.08.10, 16:31
Hi and welcome evil tT admin!

Just want to let you know: I love your site! Great for elektronic music lovers!

I never cheated there. If you jump on freelech-torrents and seed it for a while you can get a great buffer! Iīve done so.

anon
27.08.10, 16:47
lol actually it was a joke. ofc we dont do that. didnt thought someone could take this serious. :D

Sarcasm is a bit hard to notice when you're talking to someone you don't know and he doesn't use any smileys. :gtongue:


as i said - we dont care much of cheaters and we also dont try to scare them. who think he has to cheat should go on, but we cant avoid the one or another gets caught and then we have to ban / block him. its the standard procedure.

Good attitude.

Instab
27.08.10, 17:38
we ban then cheaters they report to pyc or me, look up their email address and sign them in to various gay porn sites and spamlists.

:lol:

like your overall attitude :D

Resurrection
27.08.10, 19:04
What a nice fellow this freak is...

I wish everyone in the world was as chilled out...

I'm gonna sign up...

cheatuga
27.08.10, 19:58
This thread is about TorrentTech, not TL. :happy:

Dammit Soz
About torrentech im out of new trackers for a long time last time i checked UK-T was online :D
From what i readed torrentech is something related to sct maybe? Is them anti cheating comparable?

anon
27.08.10, 19:59
From what i readed torrentech is something related to sct maybe? Is them anti cheating comparable?

You can't compare a tracker with another dead one. :happy:

cheatuga
27.08.10, 20:03
You can't compare a tracker with another dead one. :happy:

Oink was dead still hdbits......

pyc
20.09.10, 20:15
Oh, so I'm going to hell for cheating a music piracy site? :wtf:


Music piracy? I'm not aware of such concepts. What is that anyways? ;)

anon
20.09.10, 20:16
It's how I call downloading copyrighted audio streams without the author's consent. :happy:

csverona05
09.06.13, 20:50
Any cheating experiences here in 2013?