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SealLion
10.06.10, 05:08
Hey folksies: Am looking for some help on getting past the Balrog in The Mines of Moria.
Cant' seem to get Gandalf past the Balrog.

It's bugging me.:frown:

I got the Elf to kill the Goblins on the edge of the cliff and after that all I need to do is kill the Balrog. Gandalf is the only fighter thats allowed to battle with him.
So I'm just wondering if anyone has devised any first use special powers of Gandalf (level 3 already at this point).

He's already fully recharged before the fight and I still can't seem to get the Balrog to eat dust.

Download the game from GBvNET.ro (scene site. and not a bad one either, imho) if youi'd like to try it.

saebrtooth
10.06.10, 05:44
Try this, excellent game cheat source
cheatengine (http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=277280&sid=3c5f7b23b48c8ab753a4b8c901bdb10a)
Look around there are lots of premade cheats and if ur lucky u can get godmode and 1hit

Ingame cheats
cheatcodesgalore.com (http://www.cheatcodesgalore.com/pc/cheats/Lord_of_the_Rings_The_Battle_for_Middle_Earth/?filter=1)


Some cheats or u can just ur game skills
lotr.ugo.com (http://lotr.ugo.com/games/battle_for_middle-earth/cheats.php)

caballero
10.06.10, 05:46
Check the bottom of mission 1 on this (http://uk.guides.ign.com/guides/606070/page_3.html)page


Now there are no more minor enemies, so send everyone forward together. When you reach a rocky plateau, everyone but Gandalf will run off and cross the bridge, leaving him to deal with a Balrog alone. The Balrog is extremely strong, so you'll need to use Gandalf's powers to survive. Use his Lightning Sword, then run around until it charges back up. Use your Heal power if you need to, and just repeat, repeat, repeat until the Balrog goes down.

saebrtooth
10.06.10, 05:58
kiting is good when the monster is slower and has a shorter attack/aoe than ur char, if there are any obstacles try jumping on higher ground and shoot down at balrog u may get lucky and he wont hit back :biggrin:

thats right I cheat even at games lol :biggrin:

SBfreak
10.06.10, 11:11
kiting is good when the monster is slower and has a shorter attack/aoe than ur char, if there are any obstacles try jumping on higher ground and shoot down at balrog u may get lucky and he wont hit back
At least play the game before commenting:rolleyes2:.

Ok SealLion here's how you do it.It's pretty easy depends on what difficulty level you chose at the beginning.
It's basically Lighting Blade then run around.Avoid his attacks while that spell is recharging.
It's better if you let him come to you and activate the spell before he reaches you.This way he will be stunned and fly around without damaging you.
YouTube - Lord of The Rings Battle For Middle Earth: Balrog vs Gandalf

saebrtooth
10.06.10, 11:35
At least play the game before commenting:rolleyes2:.


Where did it stipulate that u have to ahve played the game b4 commenting. :eek13:Kiting is a general and often use technique and can be used anywhere

SealLion
10.06.10, 11:57
that;'s what I was looking for!!
Runnning around while the spell is recharging. Didn't think of that at all.
I originally was going to choose Hard Level, however I chose Medium level and I figured that'll be sufficient.

I'd rather not cheat though I could I guess if I was to use any of those cheats but I'd rather just stay within the bounds of how the game was meant to be played.

So I see from the video that it shouldn't take me more than maybe 3 uses of the lighting swored and if I can stay away from the Balrog's fiery breath, I should make it out alive. Sweet.

saebrtooth
10.06.10, 12:12
In the 3rd link I gave it states that u can allow urself to be hit upto 1/2 health then run for cover and repeat, so u dont have t dodge every hit


Defeating the Balrog in Moria:
When battling the Balrog at Moria you will only be allowed to use Gandof.This actually helps you defeat him. It would be harder to do this if you had the whole fellowship with you. When you first get there just keep attacking him. Don't worry about him attacking you. When your health bar gets half way down start to run away from him. Try not to get hit by him. While you're running away from him your health should start going back up. Wait till your health is full. This may take a while. Then repeat this over and over until you have beaten him.

Oh by the way hit and run is kiting sbfreak or at least in this case a vari of it :top:

SBfreak
10.06.10, 12:25
Where did it stipulate that u have to ahve played the game b4 commenting. :eek13:Kiting is a general and often use technique and can be used anywhere

Not quite..at harder difficulties it's useless because he lands exactly on you and his flames cover a pretty long distance.
Plus no obstacles or high grounds.
Also Balrog's speeds depends on the difficulty level.When he's faster than you,you have to run around him.

saebrtooth
10.06.10, 16:28
what do u mean "not quite"
the technique used on balrog is hitting and running, kiting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28video_gaming%29) (<--check link), as opposed to tanking


g.
It's basically Lighting Blade then run around.Avoid his attacks while that spell is recharging.
It's better if you let him come to you and activate the spell before he reaches you.This way he will be stunned and fly around without damaging you.

You even said this, do u remember accusing me of not playing the game and commenting? I suggested kiting above that same post :eek13:

SBfreak
10.06.10, 18:11
/facepalm

The advantage of the strategy is that a safe distance is kept between the player and the target while the player keeps bombarding the target with ranged attacks (such as spells, arrows, or other projectiles)
It's not kiting..it's just a channeled spell you have to use at th exact time so he won't you.You don't run and attack at the same time.

saebrtooth
11.06.10, 03:30
/facepalm

The advantage of the strategy is that a safe distance is kept between the player and the target while the player keeps bombarding the target with ranged attacks (such as spells, arrows, or other projectiles)

It's not kiting..it's just a channeled spell you have to use at th exact time so he won't you.You don't run and attack at the same time.

:hand-on-crotch: MJ style
u said "You don't run and attack at the same time" kiting is not simply run and attack, it also means attack then run repeat, there is a difference there but essentially it means the same

lol I've heard of selective listening but now u display what is selective quoting
the italics is ur quote, the italics and bold is what u left out of the same paragraph

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28video_gaming%29)

The advantage of the strategy is that a safe distance is kept between the player and the target while the player keeps bombarding the target with ranged attacks (such as spells, arrows, or other projectiles). This ideally results in a dead monster without the player taking a hit. The obvious disadvantages of this tactic are the annoyances of constant running around, its time-consuming nature, and the possibility of "adds" (other monsters in the area assisting the primary target). The tactic relies on being able to generate more damage per second than the mob's hit point regeneration without running out of mana or ammunition, and so is limited in this respect.

Read what I just highlghted in the quote u somehow forgot to quote it. Anyway doesnt this conflict with what u say about not running around?


/facepalmYou don't run and attack at the same time.


It's basically Lighting Blade then run around.Avoid his attacks while that spell is recharging.
It's better if you let him come to you and activate the spell before he reaches you.This way he will be stunned and fly around without damaging you.

“kiting is not simply run and attack, it also means run and then attack, there is a difference there but essentially it means the same”
umm am I missing something here? Or did u just contradict yourself?

You might as well read the part above too

The term kiting is generally considered to refer to "flying a kite", which is what the process looks like from a third party. The player doing the kiting leads the enemy around (directed by the AI to move towards the player to attack them), which is often moving at a reduced speed caused by the player in some manner (for example, a slow spell or injury).
Isnt this basically what I suggested for SL to do ie kiting? And isnt this basically what u described in ur video link - kiting? when u said



At least play the game before commenting. :rolleyes:

It seems ur aspirations to become mod are growing greater and greater


If I wanted to be a mod I would have been since the third month I joined.For now I only want to be elite:cool2:
link (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f56/tut-how-get-free-invites-all-trackers-you-need-18603/#post163421)
Well congratz u got ur 1st wish are u in training for something else?

At least play the game before commenting.:rolleyes:


read more


Right now I have 3.
I had over 50 in the past.
It took like one minute to sync my bookmarks with xmarks.
link (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f56/what-tracker-youre-feel-bad-cheated-19822/index4.html#post198273)

You even stated your self once

Am I the only one who thinks that this thread is useless(no offence) except for talking about allowed and denied clients??
There's no need to post "the x tracker allowed clients".
After a month or two the list will not be the same.
link (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f56/some-list-clients-allowed-trackers-20112/#post187471)
When thecoolest posted list of “Some List Clients Allowed In Trackers “

You say so urself in “a month or two the list will not be the same”. Lots of things can change in a short amount of time anti cheating scripts may have, leechers, seeders etc etc
How is it that u can dictate to me to not comment on a game strategy when I havent played it - in a p2p cheating forum of all places, when as u say u dont have many accounts left but u post many many times in cheating theads when u as u say dont have those accounts?

Im sure not even many/all of the SBI mods dont have accounts at all the places and not every1 who gives suggestions/comments/ideas have accounts or cheated at all the tracckers they've commented on.

So how can they do that. Its easy its called experience that can extend to other trackers, just like I havent played LOTR but I suggested that kiting can be used.

:rolling_eyes:

SealLion
11.06.10, 07:08
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5208/laughinghorse1897855.gif

---------- Post added at 21:45 ---------- Previous post was at 20:06 ----------

Awe c'mon. You guys. .....
Let's not swing swords any longer.

---------- Post added at 23:08 ---------- Previous post was at 21:45 ----------

well, I almost killed the BigBadBalrog. One more use of Gandalf's magic and I think I would have had it eat my dust.
I did exactly as you guys tutorialed above and it seemed to work; however, there were times where I guess I just wasn't quick enough to escape it's fiery sword against Gandalf. Gonna have to move quicker and earlier as I am beginning to think that, that is part and parcel of the trick to defeating it.

SBfreak
11.06.10, 13:21
:hand-on-crotch: MJ style
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4445/lolwut.jpg
Ok that's a rather big post you know?? It seems you got a bit emotional here.
I was too lazy to reply at first and leave it be but I have nothing better to do now ya know?
Was that really necessary?
And no I did not contradict myself.Read carefully:

You don't run and attack at the same time.

It's basically Lighting Blade then run around.Avoid his attack
Yeah I know not a big difference but it matters if you played the game.
saebr: I recommend kiting;
SealLion: Ok.I'm dead
sbfreaklol:
Ok SealLion here's how you do it.It's pretty easy depends on what difficulty level you chose at the beginning.
It's basically Lighting Blade then run around.Avoid his attacks while that spell is recharging.
It's better if you let him come to you and activate the spell before he reaches you.This way he will be stunned and fly around without damaging you.+ video link which was quite hard to find.Had to visit a forum and make account again because I was banned for spamming:P
=really helpful;

snt this basically what I suggested for SL to do ie kiting? And isnt this basically what u described in ur video link - kiting? when u said

Basically yes but not the same thing...

It seems ur aspirations to become mod are growing greater and greater
Yes thank you.Is there something wrong I hate not so helpful posts when SealLion need some advice from someone who actually played the game??

Well congratz u got ur 1st wish are u in training for something else?
I wanna be a porn star here on sbi:D
What has that to do with anything?

Am I the only one who thinks that this thread is useless(no offence) except for talking about allowed and denied clients??
There's no need to post "the x tracker allowed clients".
After a month or two the list will not be the same.

You say so urself in “a month or two the list will not be the same”. Lots of things can change in a short amount of time anti cheating scripts may have, leechers, seeders etc etc
I'm glad we're on the same term here.

How is it that u can dictate to me to not comment on a game strategy when I havent played it
It was just some advice.You can spam all you want:eek3:

a p2p cheating forum of all places, when as u say u dont have many accounts left but u post many many times in cheating theads when u as u say dont have those accounts?
I have more accounts than you can imagine.T_t.Those three are all I use.The rest I just log in from time to time to test scripts or to see if there's something new.

but u post many many times in cheating theads when u as u say dont have those accounts?
Where:lol:
If say something regarding cheating on some tracker it's from info we already know.Wouldn't I be a bad mod if I say every time "Read the whole thread"?
Besides it's always easy to register and try some tools on a tracker..even on linux.:eek13:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5208/laughinghorse1897855.gif
I know :P me too.

Awe c'mon. You guys. .....
Let's not swing swords any longer.

Sorry for this mate.I had to reply.I wish none of this happened.
Now I'm going to recommend kiting in every video game thread.Make myself 1000 posts then I'll be promoted to moderator:cool:

saebrtooth
11.06.10, 14:30
You have way too many self contradictions that it doesnt even deserve a moderately detailed reply from me :rolleyes:

hmm funny how u associate a long post with being emotional, so does ur reply mean ur half as emotional as what u think my post was? :tongue:

SBfreak
11.06.10, 15:35
You have way too many self contradictions that it doesnt even deserve a moderately detailed reply from me :rolleyes:
Ok master thy will be done.:shockkk!:

You emotional?? Simple?
Instead of just trying to explain over and over again or say"that's it ,you don't understand,your fault,bye" you started adding some things to the post that just don't add:
like the moderator thing,or the fact you used the verb dictate:lol:

saebrtooth
11.06.10, 15:46
poor sbfreak...

even If I were to set u straight on where u went wrong in ur arguement, u have shown again and again u just find it difficult to comprehend :rolleyes:

anon
11.06.10, 15:52
Easy, guys...

It kind of makes me sad to see you two argue about this.

Feel free to continue it via PM, as it has little to do with this thread's topic.

SBfreak
11.06.10, 15:55
Ran out of arguments saebr?
Or you just took the "poor xxx strategy,let's petty him all" strategy because it isn't working.

saebrtooth
11.06.10, 15:57
no need to PM, the matter is over

SBfreak
11.06.10, 15:59
I'm just kiting you know:eek3:.
-make saebr emotional
-run away
-make saebr angry
-run away
-very effective:P

SealLion
12.06.10, 02:31
you guys could always fight it out to the death with da Big BADD-AZZ'D BAlrog

....ain't dat better??:biggrin:


Fictitious scenario ( potentially and non-viably true) :....wtf????:confused2:

The Tooth from Saebr meets the Freak of SB. Together they complicate to ascendancy and grow potatoes forming a protuberant contingency infallibly forming a misaligned, misalliance fighting fruit with nail to aphoristically fight the Balrog's figs and feet. That half-breed of Balrog'edness gracelessly falls asunder only to pubescencently pee on his foes :biggrin:


---------- Post added at 18:31 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

Now don't lie and tell me that doesn't make sense to you

saebrtooth
12.06.10, 02:58
oh yeah that makes sense but the last part should be Balrog assumes a prostrated form I then use Well Endowment to precipitate on various regions in a swirling manner

SealLion
12.06.10, 03:39
..... I then use Well Endowment to precipitate ...


what product or agent are you using to precipitate ??

saebrtooth
12.06.10, 17:30
piss .

SealLion
12.06.10, 21:37
I think that this topic has gone off topic since near the beginning.
Partly b/c of me and partly b.c of other things.
So this thread's topic is now closed.
I got the answer that I was looking for and that was basically all I needed to get. Thanks SBfreak, saebrtooth, and caballero.
I gave you guys all rep earlier.

:bbclosed: